Too fast AI recovery speed (specials getting blocked): gifs provided [UNDER INVESTIGATION]

GbSarkarGbSarkar Posts: 543
edited August 11 in Bugs and Known Issues
Yellowjacket:
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Iron Man:
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Spider-Man (Symbiote):
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Device: Moto G5 Plus
Android 7.0 (Security Patch Level: 1st March 2017)
Latest game version (14.1.1)
Problem noticed in Arena after reaching infinite streak (happens in quests too sometimes)

How to replicate: Fight any champ having the infinite steak AI with the above champs and perform a special attack after a MLLLM combo
Note: These champs are sometimes able to connect their special attacks after a MLLLM combo but if you keep testing, you are bound to see some of the specials blocked (especially with YJ L1)
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  • mum_m2mum_m2 Posts: 285
    I think that has to do with the difficulty of the AI. This happens when you fight end bosses also. I sort of expect the AI to get harder, with this though. I play on a google phone.
  • Rich_RyderRich_Ryder Posts: 38
    edited August 10
    Preach! This increased AI speed is causing all kinds of problems they say they're working on. It is not the right way to increase difficulty. Some people are saying it's frame rate lag, but if the visuals can't keep up with the play, you must decrease the play speed. It's ridiculous that this is still an issue
  • GbSarkarGbSarkar Posts: 543
    mum_m2 wrote: »
    I think that has to do with the difficulty of the AI. This happens when you fight end bosses also. I sort of expect the AI to get harder, with this though. I play on a google phone.

    Except that the arena AI isn't difficult at all (and I don't face this issue against bosses at all. This sometimes crops up in quests as well but that's in random fights and not against bosses specifically)
  • EbbtideEbbtide Posts: 100
    edited August 10
    mum_m2 wrote: »
    I think that has to do with the difficulty of the AI. This happens when you fight end bosses also. I sort of expect the AI to get harder, with this though. I play on a google phone.

    No. You're supposed to be able to combine combos into specials. This used to be the way the game worked, but the recent updates in the last few months have ruined timing and frame rates, making it unreliable, and even costly, to use specials effectively.

    Excellent job @GbSarkar . I wish I knew how to make Gifs to show the same problems. Yellowjacket's Special 1 never ever connects for me anymore unless the enemy is charging a Heavy, or is Stunned or just open to attack.

    This really became prominent to me after the recent Android System Update a few days ago. It seems to be hurting the performance of the game, as the Game Update was working for me until the System Update.

    I'm on a Galaxy S5.

    Also, when I do hit with Captain Marvel's Special 2 it does little to no damage, which is becoming another problem. Specials are either being blocked, doing no damage, or being ignored entirely, allowing the AI to continue attacking, and even interrupting player Special Attacks at points.
  • GbSarkarGbSarkar Posts: 543
    Interesting thing is that I never faced these issues on my old phone which was cheap and had shitty graphics (Ultron looked like a plastic model and didn't "shine", Dorm did not have smoke or embers, etc)
    All of this (i.e. specials getting blocked, swipes not registering, etc) occurs only on my new device
  • GbSarkarGbSarkar Posts: 543
    Ebbtide wrote: »
    I wish I knew how to make Gifs to show the same problems.

    There are several apps available on Google Play which you can use to convert videos to gifs. You can try those.
    There are also websites which convert videos to gifs
    I am using DU Screen Recorder (available on Google Play) to record gameplay and that has these options in-built
  • ThawnimThawnim Posts: 1,014
    GbSarkar wrote: »
    mum_m2 wrote: »
    I think that has to do with the difficulty of the AI. This happens when you fight end bosses also. I sort of expect the AI to get harder, with this though. I play on a google phone.

    Except that the arena AI isn't difficult at all (and I don't face this issue against bosses at all. This sometimes crops up in quests as well but that's in random fights and not against bosses specifically)

    First let me say this: I'm not saying that they should be able to block combos but the AI difficulty after match 15 picks up
  • GbSarkarGbSarkar Posts: 543
    Thawnim wrote: »
    GbSarkar wrote: »
    mum_m2 wrote: »
    I think that has to do with the difficulty of the AI. This happens when you fight end bosses also. I sort of expect the AI to get harder, with this though. I play on a google phone.

    Except that the arena AI isn't difficult at all (and I don't face this issue against bosses at all. This sometimes crops up in quests as well but that's in random fights and not against bosses specifically)

    First let me say this: I'm not saying that they should be able to block combos but the AI difficulty after match 15 picks up

    I don't notice that much of a difference ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    Actually, the 10-15 fights are kinda harder for me since the AI is very passive and tends to store power till L3
  • ThawnimThawnim Posts: 1,014
    GbSarkar wrote: »
    Thawnim wrote: »
    GbSarkar wrote: »
    mum_m2 wrote: »
    I think that has to do with the difficulty of the AI. This happens when you fight end bosses also. I sort of expect the AI to get harder, with this though. I play on a google phone.

    Except that the arena AI isn't difficult at all (and I don't face this issue against bosses at all. This sometimes crops up in quests as well but that's in random fights and not against bosses specifically)

    First let me say this: I'm not saying that they should be able to block combos but the AI difficulty after match 15 picks up

    I don't notice that much of a difference ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    Actually, the 10-15 fights are kinda harder for me since the AI is very passive and tends to store power till L3

    Fights 10-15 for sure are tough to bait them to use their power before s3. I've started to only use power drainers there. But after match 15 the AI just seems more aggressive than they are prior to it.
  • GbSarkarGbSarkar Posts: 543
    edited August 10
    Thawnim wrote: »
    GbSarkar wrote: »
    Thawnim wrote: »
    GbSarkar wrote: »
    mum_m2 wrote: »
    I think that has to do with the difficulty of the AI. This happens when you fight end bosses also. I sort of expect the AI to get harder, with this though. I play on a google phone.

    Except that the arena AI isn't difficult at all (and I don't face this issue against bosses at all. This sometimes crops up in quests as well but that's in random fights and not against bosses specifically)

    First let me say this: I'm not saying that they should be able to block combos but the AI difficulty after match 15 picks up

    I don't notice that much of a difference ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    Actually, the 10-15 fights are kinda harder for me since the AI is very passive and tends to store power till L3

    But after match 15 the AI just seems more aggressive than they are prior to it.
    That kinda makes things easier for me since I don't have to bait specials much or wait for a parry and keep intercepting their dash for quick damage. You just need to get into the rhythm of the fight and then it's extremely easy
  • Mega issue I'm dealing with. Thanks for posting about this! AGAIN this is an issue. Very annoying.

    Worst issue is IMMEDIATELY after enemy uses special attack they are already hitting you.

    This game is BS now... why does the computer always have MAJOR advantage over the user?
  • Wased5678Wased5678 Posts: 8
    The AI always had a chance to block an SP after a 5 hit combo. Thats why i always do MLLL-SP... you cant expect them to make it too easy for you
  • SignumSignum Posts: 51
    Is anyone noticing the AI can hit you immediately after you finish a combo. The same way as if you had missed the combo? I keep getting hit by this...sometimes it's one hit, but the other day in AQ the AI was able to retaliate with a 5 hit combo essentially before I had time to finish my combo or block.
  • GbSarkarGbSarkar Posts: 543
    Signum wrote: »
    Is anyone noticing the AI can hit you immediately after you finish a combo. The same way as if you had missed the combo? I keep getting hit by this...sometimes it's one hit, but the other day in AQ the AI was able to retaliate with a 5 hit combo essentially before I had time to finish my combo or block.

    Yup. AI attacks back faster than you can put up your block. Doesn't matter if you end combo with 5 or 4 hits
  • SpicyslicerSpicyslicer Posts: 240
    -Signed


    Great post
  • Haji_SaabHaji_Saab Posts: 414
    I had Vodoo's L2 blocked by NC in AW after MLLLM ...
  • HoidCosmereHoidCosmere Posts: 550
    Kabam Wolf wrote: »
    Hey everyone. The team is currently still working on improvements for chaining combos into Specials, and will hopefully have an update ready for us shortly. Thanks for your patience!

    This is starting look like a mantra

    It is the mantra. But the mods have no control over the fixes. As long as they keep us up to date on where it stands I'm happy and they are providing support. Even if the news is "still working, don't have a fix yet" at least we know that it hasn't been forgotten about.

    So thanks for the update wolf.
  • Tman0971Tman0971 Posts: 284
    We keep hearing the same cut and pasted excuses that '... the game team is continuing to work on improvements...' but every patch it gets worse. Even if they claim to fix something in a patch it's only marginally better and never fixed completely. Double dash back is broken still/again/whatever.
  • Tman0971Tman0971 Posts: 284
    Thank you @GbSarkar for recording this!
  • Tman0971Tman0971 Posts: 284
    edited August 11
    Did you all notice how YJ's beams were already THROUGH groot and hitting the ground behind him before his guard even went up??? This isn't too fast recovery, it's lag in registering the hit! Just like when you parry and get creamed because the game lags and doesn't even acknowledge the input!
  • GbSarkar wrote: »
    Yellowjacket:
    2t2j7k381adz.gif
    wmcnq4t5f0kt.gif
    h0ssafg86wfw.gif
    Iron Man:
    nw94ofvlxkl7.gif
    Spider-Man (Symbiote):
    xk90n8470os1.gif

    Device: Moto G5 Plus
    Android 7.0 (Security Patch Level: 1st March 2017)
    Latest game version (14.1.1)
    Problem noticed in Arena after reaching infinite streak (happens in quests too sometimes)

    How to replicate: Fight any champ having the infinite steak AI with the above champs and perform a special attack after a MLLLM combo
    Note: These champs are sometimes able to connect their special attacks after a MLLLM combo but if you keep testing, you are bound to see some of the specials blocked (especially with YJ L1)

    @GbSarkar, I have the same phone. Is this just happening in the arena? Because this might not make me want to do it.
  • Tman0971Tman0971 Posts: 284
    It happens in any area of the game but especially advanced content or when the AI is just super hyped which happens in arena every so often.
  • wray1976wray1976 Posts: 459
    Kabam Wolf wrote: »
    Hey everyone. The team is currently still working on improvements for chaining combos into Specials, and will hopefully have an update ready for us shortly. Thanks for your patience!

    This is starting look like a mantra

    It is the mantra. But the mods have no control over the fixes. As long as they keep us up to date on where it stands I'm happy and they are providing support. Even if the news is "still working, don't have a fix yet" at least we know that it hasn't been forgotten about.

    So thanks for the update wolf.

    Its basically a generic response. When the beta fiasco happened they said the same thing but nothing happened. Hopefully things get sorted out soon.
  • PonyboyPonyboy Posts: 106
    iPhone 7
    @Kabam Wolf

    Happens in AQ map5. Not just the issue above either. I've also had numerous enemies, including symbioids, be able to block immediately after their full 4-5 hit combo. No room to which we can retaliate.

    Classify this as harder Ai, but it's been known for so long now that it's impossible for us to do the same.
  • Just fix the problem!? I happens on every phone
  • Billybob1971Billybob1971 Posts: 113
    I think it is one of those you are just going to have to get used to.

    Once you get past the easy fights from 15 to 20 in arena the fights are all duels and you can rarely use specials in any of those fights.

    But I have noticed it happening in boss fights in quests and also some fights in 1-15 arena. Yes it is usually after a 5 hit combo, but not always.

    The one that ALWAYS gets you is the insta heavy, and the heavy or SP as soon as you dash across. Very clever, but also a bit devious and callous
  • Tman0971Tman0971 Posts: 284
    I think it is one of those you are just going to have to get used to.

    Once you get past the easy fights from 15 to 20 in arena the fights are all duels and you can rarely use specials in any of those fights.

    But I have noticed it happening in boss fights in quests and also some fights in 1-15 arena. Yes it is usually after a 5 hit combo, but not always.

    The one that ALWAYS gets you is the insta heavy, and the heavy or SP as soon as you dash across. Very clever, but also a bit devious and callous

    You heard it right here everyone - just going to have to get used to the game cheating. Thanks for the help Billy Bob, we can all rest easy now.
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