Alliance Wars: Compensating Alliances that lost to cheating/piloting Alliances

Drat32

I am part of a Platinum 3/Tier 3 alliance. We play fair and do not cheat/pilot in AW. This season we have lost 4 wars total. 3 out of 4 of these alliances have been docked due to cheating/piloting (the 4th is under investigation for possible modding). The issue is that these cheaters get docked and then still cheat their way back to the top. There is no compensation in season points if you lose to these cheaters. We would probably be in Platinum 2/Tier 2 if we had not lost to these guys. I feel that Alliances that lost to cheaters/modders should be compensated in season points for those wars that were lost to cheaters. I also feel that if an alliance is caught cheating in AW, they should be banned for the rest of the season, maybe then it would be taken seriously.

DalBot

The issue isn't season points or war rating, even though that's still a big deal (cheating alliances then face lower tier non-cheaters that aren't used to facing defenses like the cheating alliances), but the bigger issue is the amount of lost shards for the teams that "lost" to cheating alliances and lost out on winner rewards. We are an alliance that fluctuates between Plat 1/2 and we have faced more than a few of the punished alliances. They get docked, but we still don't get what we would have gotten had we faced a team that played legit 🤦🏻‍♂️🤔

Game_Is_Down

There isn't any guarantee that you would have won if it was a fair match so you will not be compensated.

Drat32

@DalBot I agree with you about losing out on shards/rewards from single wars, but I feel that most are after the season rewards when it is all said and done. (50,000 points)x (whatever tier multiplier you are in) x (number of wars lost to cheating alliances). We are talking about 875,000 - 1,100,000 points here, easily the difference in us moving up a bracket.

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DalBot

Game_Is_Down wrote: »

There isn't any guarantee that you would have won if it was a fair match so you will not be compensated.

No guarantee we would have lost either but still stuck with loser rewards and a giant waste of time 🤷🏻‍♂️

SparkAlot

The problem is, there is no real punishment going on.

Any alliance that cheated should have their match be a forfeit. The other team automatically gets a win.
This is how it is done everywhere else, except this game.

The reasoning Kabam don't do this makes 0 sense, and having minimal "punishments" is the cause of this keep going on. They know exactly who is doing what, they should perma-ban them, no excuses.

xNig

Given that there’s a 50/50 chance to win or lose, instead of 50k, just give the losing alliance 25k.

Chen

The punishment is weak and the cheating alliances don’t care that much. Look at mmxiv, they been repeat offenders in different seasons and twice in this season. The punishments were around a week apart, obviously they didnt care they got docked as they kept cheating.

Even when docked and having 1-2 players under suspension they will most likely still beat up on their new tier punishing the noncheating alliances.

Most of the top alliances (master) hit with penalties in round one regained their position in 2 wars...quite the punishment for them.

A new system needs to be implemented as this one is quite broken.

Fixxx

Game_Is_Down wrote: »

There isn't any guarantee that you would have won if it was a fair match so you will not be compensated.

The fact that they resorted to cheating means they know they wouldn't win otherwise