AI speed in streak 20+

Billybob1971

I have a small roster on better star characters in the games but a full roster of 2* heroes.

Am managing to get past the usual death squads area of 10 - 15 streaks in versus but then finding a new challenge past about 20

From then the PI of your rivals is lower but they are so so fast. Sometimes it is actually not worth even trying to fight as you literally face a light speed bombardment if attacks that you can't block, dodge away from or anything.

Again, I know why this is, to make it impossible for 99% of people to get past these streak levels.

But it does seem that the AI are capable of things I can't do, the speed they heavy attack is borderline cheating, you can't use specials in any part of a combo as they are all blocked!

I mean they are making it fairly obvious why the intention is, but at least leave a pathway to possibility? You can get lucky and win the odd few, but your points are well down due to crappy opponents.

Very devious

Comments

ChampkillerBatman

Is it only 2* arenas your talking about?

Jlf2n

I too have noticed this in all the arenas. You have to be on your toes. Their PI may be half yours but in reality they fight like it is the other way around.

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TKal

Haji_Saab wrote: »

I can understand your position if you were asking for help against this AI as it can be tough to newer players. But to make generalisations and throw in a conspiracy theory .... I don't know what to say.

Any capable player is able to go into infinite streak and carry on infinitely.

Try not to do the method for an infinite streak, just do your fights normally and let's see how far you'll go. You won't go past 25

HoidCosmere

Sometimes the AI cranks up to full BS mode. Not a fan of it, but it would be crazy easy if it didn't.

Blackbeard

Two choise for SA connect successfully. Either wait till SA3 to finish things of or wait to parry your opponent, then deliver SA.

Billybob1971

AsI said before, I know there are players who can infinite streak,they are playing a different game to the vast majority of players,so calling into question the ability of mere mortals who play this game the way it is supposed to be played, ie, you get to about streak 25, is a little unfair.

But you would expect it on here. It seems to depend not only on ability, but also the luck of the draw in what fight you pick, if you have advantages you can win, or certain characters like Magic or Vision who can power rob, you can beat guys anyone else would never beat.

Otherwise, you stand no chance even with parry, as I say there are those of us that play Kabam ways, and those thathave found a sort of legal way to cheat and can avoid any hits. I put is called being a geek!

Maat1985

just get your champs maxed out..... be on your toes and all good.... i remember when i used to think it was impossible after win 20...... then after playing more i got better.... suddenly i can now go as much as i want... sometimes i still do lose my streak if i lapse in concentration..... or face up against hyperion..... keep playing and you will get better... it will get easier......

Oliverb1980

Practice dueling other players. The AI in duel is comparable to the AI when you're on infinite streak (streak 20 and above). As to the specials being blocked, if you launch them after ending a 5 hit combo on a light attack 99% of the time they will be blocked. Either end your combo after 4 hits then launch the special, or do a 5 hit ending with a medium then launch the special

Sniko_76

Yes fights are harder after 20 but practice makes it easier. Try to use synergies and make sure you are only using maxed fighters. Long time since I done 2* but in 3*/4* arena I do not use fighters under 1500pi. Preferably only use maxed fighters

TKal

Billybob1971 wrote: »

AsI said before, I know there are players who can infinite streak,they are playing a different game to the vast majority of players,so calling into question the ability of mere mortals who play this game the way it is supposed to be played, ie, you get to about streak 25, is a little unfair.

But you would expect it on here. It seems to depend not only on ability, but also the luck of the draw in what fight you pick, if you have advantages you can win, or certain characters like Magic or Vision who can power rob, you can beat guys anyone else would never beat.

Otherwise, you stand no chance even with parry, as I say there are those of us that play Kabam ways, and those thathave found a sort of legal way to cheat and can avoid any hits. I put is called being a geek!

Everyone can get to infinite streak, with a roster good enough, there is absolutely no need to have a huge skill to do so

Billybob1971

Tell me anyone how it can even be legally fair to offer fights like this? 3* arena, fight 15. Used up all 3* so using 2's. Came up against a team WHERE EVERY character had 600 PI more than each guy I had.

That is the definition of impossible, unfairness, a total con and rather unsavoury game development. I know I am using the wrong type of heroes, but the matchmaking there is simply saying, quit you have a 0% chance of going further.

Regarding streaks, my highest is only 40 I can regularly get to about 25 but the fights after that are basically all duels.

It is NOT the same for everyone, not everyone can get high streaks, if you check most players I would think only about 10% have managed it a lot from their stats, in my experience anyway, so that part of the game is geared to elite players only, meaning only the can really win new characters, fair enough they are better at one part of the game. But they are sort of exploiting a flaw, because the game is supposed to stop you getting any further than about 25 Vs fights. You just developed an insane ability to combat that, that the vast majority can not achieve.

TKal

Billybob1971 wrote: »

Tell me anyone how it can even be legally fair to offer fights like this? 3* arena, fight 15. Used up all 3* so using 2's. Came up against a team WHERE EVERY character had 600 PI more than each guy I had.

That is the definition of impossible, unfairness, a total con and rather unsavoury game development. I know I am using the wrong type of heroes, but the matchmaking there is simply saying, quit you have a 0% chance of going further.

Regarding streaks, my highest is only 40 I can regularly get to about 25 but the fights after that are basically all duels.

It is NOT the same for everyone, not everyone can get high streaks, if you check most players I would think only about 10% have managed it a lot from their stats, in my experience anyway, so that part of the game is geared to elite players only, meaning only the can really win new characters, fair enough they are better at one part of the game. But they are sort of exploiting a flaw, because the game is supposed to stop you getting any further than about 25 Vs fights. You just developed an insane ability to combat that, that the vast majority can not achieve.

Dude you can do your research before complaining here. There is a special method to get into intinity streak, and with this special method you don't need either high rank champs or high skill.

GQuantao

God knows this game can be frustrating, I started playing over a year ago, took a six month break and restarted last month. Only in the past few weeks have I been able to get on streaks.
I have also noticed, about fight 20, the dynamics change and I have to pay more attention and change my strategy, usually just hammer and block and only use sp3. Keep at it and look for ways to improve your skills.

Blackbeard

Its really funny when people complain for what people can and what they cant. Why dont you think like this, there will always someone better then you. You can do top 25streak, i can 50, someone else can do 100. Isnt it natural? And after 12/15 streak you cant use all champs. Can only use maxed or one rank below maxed. Other then the streak will break for sure.

VandalSavage

Blackbeard wrote: »

Its really funny when people complain for what people can and what they cant. Why dont you think like this, there will always someone better then you. ...

It is called entitlement and most of the time, these people do not even view it as entitlement. It is a natural progression for them when everything is handed down and everyone gets participation rewards for showing up. Everybody is a winner. It is a normal way of life. That is why it is important for them for 99% of the folks to make it through.

However, he is not actually talking about the "infinite streak". He's talking about the AI itself so he's not worried about being matched up against an opponent with 2x the power rating. He's worried that the "weaker" team pummels his stronger team.

Billybob1971 wrote: »

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From then the PI of your rivals is lower but they are so so fast. Sometimes it is actually not worth even trying to fight as you literally face a light speed bombardment if attacks that you can't block, dodge away from or anything.

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The match 21+ AI has been around since summer of 2015. Once a player hits match 21, it is the same routine over and over and over again. It is all about consistency and skill. Since he lacks the skill or consistency, he throws up a conspiracy theory to explain away his deficiency.

Like so many people in this world, they blame others for their own failing.

Billybob1971

So many rude,arrogant and utterly horrible people on here.

Have I said anywhere on here that I should be getting long streaks? No, I have said is is frustrating that a few players can do it but I cannot.

I can do OK with what I have, but find it really hard to tempt the AI into launching a special so SP 3 remains a threat always in most fights. I have tried the dash for and back, tried the dodge in me combo and it works very rarely for me.

I know my skills are lacking in that area, but to say I am guilty of entitlement when you are making rude, unfounded comments is rather hilarious.

My point about post streak 20 fights is that they are spool different to what is before. So unless you know this you are wholly unprepared. And saying all fights after that are easy is arrogance personified quite honestly. Maybe if you know exactly what to do, or have lots of maxed heroes, but not for a whole bunch of us

Solswerd

Billybob1971 wrote: »

Tell me anyone how it can even be legally fair to offer fights like this? 3* arena, fight 15. Used up all 3* so using 2's. Came up against a team WHERE EVERY character had 600 PI more than each guy I had.

That is the definition of impossible, unfairness, a total con and rather unsavoury game development. I know I am using the wrong type of heroes, but the matchmaking there is simply saying, quit you have a 0% chance of going further.

Regarding streaks, my highest is only 40 I can regularly get to about 25 but the fights after that are basically all duels.

It is NOT the same for everyone, not everyone can get high streaks, if you check most players I would think only about 10% have managed it a lot from their stats, in my experience anyway, so that part of the game is geared to elite players only, meaning only the can really win new characters, fair enough they are better at one part of the game. But they are sort of exploiting a flaw, because the game is supposed to stop you getting any further than about 25 Vs fights. You just developed an insane ability to combat that, that the vast majority can not achieve.

You need to wait for your 3*s to be ready to use again.....I don't understand why you think when you are that deep into a streak that you could start using the lower star champs? As you get and max out more 3*s it will get easier to maintain your streak. Does it favor those with larger and deeper rosters?....of course it does. Otherwise what would be the benefit/payoff be to those that have spent the time to build up their team.

I am not trying to insult you in any way with my post.

When you start throwing around words like "illegal" and "con" you will likely get colorful responses. (regardless on if they agree or disagree with you)

beaupoem

you don't even need maxed champs for infinite streak in 3* arena. just don't use anything with less than 1400 PI. never use 2* in infinite streak. if you don't have enough champs to use, wait 2 hours and use the same ones again. work on building up your roster before complaining that it's too hard. because i personally haven't experienced what you're talking about past streak 20. and that's not "arrogance personified," that's called using the right champs.

Billybob1971

I only have 18 characters that are 3* so have little chance of doing much anyway, I was talking more about 2* where surely the same principles apply.