T4 basic arena is a joke, how is this fair Kabam?????

So please explain to me how this match making is even close to fair? My team is 16k pi and you match me against 34 to 39,000 pi teams. Say what that’s double what my team is this is freaking ridiculous!!! It’s every match too...

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Is this your first go at T4 arena? There’s a pattern to follow

Got to get that streak up. This ain’t basic champ arena.

You shouldn’t have much issue with 5/50s vs 5/65s. There’s no nodes. They have 22-30k HP.

Ollyoxenfree wrote: »

Got to get that streak up. This ain’t basic champ arena.

Right?! Is this match 6? Is this match 10? Is this match 46?

SarcasticTaurus

What streak were you on? Because this looks like a 10 - 15 streak match up.

Base on the Champs you're using this should be a walk in the park, Star Lord duped and SW thats two wins right there

its a walk in the park if they being aggressive and you can get them to throw specials but for some reason in the early fights kabam likes to make them very passive. So for a fight like this its pretty much a guaranteed lose if they refuse to throw special attacks.

B_Dizzle_01 wrote: »

You shouldn’t have much issue with 5/50s vs 5/65s. There’s no nodes. They have 22-30k HP.

If they use their specials and don't pull AoN AI, I would agree.

If they just stand there, let you punch them in the face until they nuke you with SP3's, I don't agree.

Not related to t4b arena, but it's very similar, but I was doing a 5* Featured a few weeks ago, was in the Kang/Thanos range with r5 6*, and I had Kingpin use his SP3 against my r5 5* Hypy, and I made the 20% dmg reduction check, and he took me from about 70% to dead.

He never used his SP1 or SP2.

They need to fully turn on the AI at all levels of arenas and stop the BS AoN AI.

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WÏCKED wrote: »

Stagedear85 wrote: »

Base on the Champs you're using this should be a walk in the park, Star Lord duped and SW thats two wins right there

starlord is still good lol.

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i dont know if there is a pattern anymore that doesnt throw these high PI matches around.

I do
matches 1-8 Any champs
Matches 9-12 4* R3, 4* R3, 4* R1
matches 12-17 4* R5 or 5* R3

but I still get from matches 12 13 14 and maybe 15 these high Pi fights, after that they drop below my teams Pi level.

I think before december I used the above pattern and never got a Pi fight in the 30k range. Usually the hardest would be 21K or 22K

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oh **** sorry thats my streak for the 4,5,6 star arena

this is what I follow for the t4b arena

and I am pretty sure I dont get any fights higher then 21k Pi

SarcasticTaurus

Blaker78 wrote: »

Are you sure?

If I use anything below a 4/40 4* in ANY arena = deathsquad.

For 4* featured, 5* and t4b, t1a arena

Match 6-15 4/55 + 2x 3/45 or 5/50 will trigger Kant’s/Thanos team. Still high PI, especially match 11-15 but no mastery.
Match 16-17 4/40 or 2/35 + 2x 5/50 or 3/45 will get you same or slightly higher PI opponents.
Match 18-20 5/50 or 3/45 + 2x 4/40 or 2/35 will get you same or slightly higher PI opponents.
Match 20+ 2/35 + 2x 1/25 or 3/30, minimum total PI 10,500
Or high PI 4/40 (~4500) + 2x 1/25 or 3/30, minimum total PI 11,000

Worked for me for the past 3 month

Wakandas_Finest

Blaker78 wrote: »

Pretty sure this is out of date. You can’t use a team of 4* 3/30 in any catalyst arena after the first 10 matches anymore. The meta of the arenas has changed in recent months. Look up Proff Hoff or Brian Grants contest of champions YouTube channels. They do a great job of explaining why the meta has changed and how to build and keep your streak in arenas

Blaker78 wrote: »

i dont know if there is a pattern anymore that doesnt throw these high PI matches around.

I do
matches 1-8 Any champs
Matches 9-12 4* R3, 4* R3, 4* R1
matches 12-17 4* R5 or 5* R3

but I still get from matches 12 13 14 and maybe 15 these high Pi fights, after that they drop below my teams Pi level.

I think before december I used the above pattern and never got a Pi fight in the 30k range. Usually the hardest would be 21K or 22K

You can make it much easier than that in the Catalyst arenas. You don't even need skillz, @WÏCKED. I know because I don't have any 😋

Don't even use four star champs in fights 13-15 for the catalyst arenas. You can use anyone.

Drop down to your three-star champs (use some of your endless stockpile of arena boosts if you like). This is where a good stable of high Sig three-star champs comes in handy!

Use your best, favourite champs for 4/40, 4/40, and a 1* 1/1. Power Controllers and heavy-hitters favoured.

You'll find the matches very do-able; especially if you save a pairing like Hawkeye and Vision for match 15 (throw in an unranked synergy champ if you have one. I keep an unranked 3* IMIW to boost Vision's damage. These two guys can totally control any arena fight, and they punch well above their weight.

Match 16-19: Use a full group of 5/50 or 2/35 champs.

Match 20: Start mixing in one 4/40 or 1/25 champion. You can go with full 4/40s after match 25.

For the T4B arena I tried a few combinations but for some reason I made my own (after a few tries and fails).

1-5 - 3 heroes low 4* (rank 2) - just to build the 3X multiplier

6-10 - 2 heroes low 5 * (rank 2+) + 1 hero 2*/1* rank 1 - basically I start with my lowest 5*s and go up in my roster - usign 5* to get the most points
6-10 - can be also with 2 heroes 4* (rank 3 or 4) - if you don't have 5* - + + 1 hero 2*/1* rank 1

Fight 11: 2x4/40 4 stars, 1x unranked 1 star
Fight 12: 2x3/30 4 stars, 1x unranked 1 star

Fights13-15: 2x4/40 3stars, 1x unranked 1 star
Here I use my best 3* .
13: 3* Thor + 3* Korg + 1*
14: 3* Kilmonger + 3* Iron Man Inf War + 1*
15: 3* X23 + 3* Luke Cage + 1*
No easy fights but manageable.

Fights 16-20:
2x4 5/50 + 1x4 4/40
or
1x4 5/50 + 1x5 3/45 + 1x4 4/40
or
2x5 3/45 + 1x4 4/40

Fights 21+
- same as fights 16-20
- 2x4 4/40 + 1x4 3/30

I never go below - 2x4 4/40 + 1x4 3/30
Also I don't have 5* above 3/45.

And remember:
- 1x4 5/50 is equal with a 1x5 3/45
- 1x4 4/40 is equal with 1 1x5 2/35
so you can pair them accordingly.

WÏCKED wrote: »

So please explain to me how this match making is even close to fair? My team is 16k pi and you match me against 34 to 39,000 pi teams. Say what that’s double what my team is this is freaking ridiculous!!! It’s every match too...

WITHT THE CHAMPS YOU HAVE, YOU ARE MORE THAN CAPABLE IN BEATING THEM.
HAVING SAID THAT, WHERE ARE YOU IN TERMS OF STREAK. YOU WILL ALWAYS 100% GET THESE FIGHTS BETWEN FIGHTS 14 - 17

I did a video on YT ages ago for using 3* and when you can use 4*. Still works today. Highest watched one to date IIRC and I know people still use it.

Wakandas_Finest wrote: »

Blaker78 wrote: »

Pretty sure this is out of date. You can’t use a team of 4* 3/30 in any catalyst arena after the first 10 matches anymore. The meta of the arenas has changed in recent months. Look up Proff Hoff or Brian Grants contest of champions YouTube channels. They do a great job of explaining why the meta has changed and how to build and keep your streak in arenas

i use this up to fight 14 and the fights after that I use 5/50 or equivalent champs till 17. Then I just make sure my combined pi is above 12k. Never had a death match doing that in t4b and I run it every week.

Just finished day 1 of t4b at the 1.1m milestone

Match 1-10 any champs you like. But I usually start from my lowest ranked 5* going up to maximize the score

Match 11-15, either use at least 2 4/55 or sandbag it - I'm using 2 4/40 + a 1*

Match 16 onwards do not use less than 4/40 4* or 2/25 5*

RagamugginGunner

TBH, this is the best place to get good at the game in a pretty no lose situation. Fighting through deathmatches is where many have honed their skills.

RagamugginGunner wrote: »

TBH, this is the best place to get good at the game in a pretty no lose situation. Fighting through deathmatches is where many have honed their skills.

This.

And also winning those fights you've sandbagged with a 1*/2*.

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