Calendars

I know y’all gone be like “but it’s free stuff” so save because I don’t care

The monthly calendars seriously need to be revamped and updated. I’m not asking for anything outrageous like a T2 Alpha Cat. or a T5 Basic.


Kabam should take away little gold they give, and just put Gold Crystals.

Week 1: 5 GC
Week 2: 10 GC
Week 3: 15 GC
Week 4: 20 GC

ALSO... add Glory and Battle Units to the calendar, because it seems you can only get those from AQ and the Arena.

(Insert other things y’all would like to see added or changed on the monthly calendar)
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Comments

  • AddyosAddyos Member Posts: 1,090 ★★★★

    No, it’s not free stuff. We log in every day which makes them revenue. It’s not free. Time isn’t free.

    Then don't log in everyday if your time is so valuable. Simple.
  • Abolitionist333_Abolitionist333_ Member Posts: 426
    Addyos said:

    No, it’s not free stuff. We log in every day which makes them revenue. It’s not free. Time isn’t free.

    Then don't log in everyday if your time is so valuable. Simple.
    That’s a really weak argument. Do you wanna try to make another before it gets torn down?
  • Trill_Fam_YounginTrill_Fam_Youngin Member Posts: 17

    No, it’s not free stuff. We log in every day which makes them revenue. It’s not free. Time isn’t free.

    Give us better rewards for being consistent and be thankful in more ways than jus one. Appreciate us!

    Awesome bro!!
  • Abolitionist333_Abolitionist333_ Member Posts: 426
    edited March 2019
    Drooped2 said:

    Addyos said:

    No, it’s not free stuff. We log in every day which makes them revenue. It’s not free. Time isn’t free.

    Then don't log in everyday if your time is so valuable. Simple.
    That’s a really weak argument. Do you wanna try to make another before it gets torn down?
    Your arguement is actually weak.
    Its logging in personally I want them to remove the calandar system since everyone whines it's not enough anyways.

    Entitled attitudes should get nothing
    Entitled? We log in every day! It’s not *entiltement*. I know we’re not entitled to be appreciated. Jus like they’re not entitled to our services. The point is to work together; they give us fun, we give them more money.

    Any business that runs successfully should encourage their customers, it’s jus common sense business practice.

    It’s not wrong to ask to be appreciated in a better way when they also make the game more costly
  • Trill_Fam_YounginTrill_Fam_Youngin Member Posts: 17

    Drooped2 said:

    Addyos said:

    No, it’s not free stuff. We log in every day which makes them revenue. It’s not free. Time isn’t free.

    Then don't log in everyday if your time is so valuable. Simple.
    That’s a really weak argument. Do you wanna try to make another before it gets torn down?
    Your arguement is actually weak.
    Its logging in personally I want them to remove the calandar system since everyone whines it's not enough anyways.

    Entitled attitudes should get nothing
    Entitled? We log in every day! It’s not *entiltement* when we do something that requires it’s activation.

    Any business that runs successfully should encourage their customers, it’s jus common sense business practice.

    It’s not wrong to ask to be appreciated in a better way when they also make the game more costly
    He doesn’t understand that, it’s just like when you go to the casino. You spend money and gamble all the time, they reward you with Rooms, free buffets, clothes, etc... and it only gets better and better the more you play at that casino rather than the competition
  • Abolitionist333_Abolitionist333_ Member Posts: 426

    Drooped2 said:

    Addyos said:

    No, it’s not free stuff. We log in every day which makes them revenue. It’s not free. Time isn’t free.

    Then don't log in everyday if your time is so valuable. Simple.
    That’s a really weak argument. Do you wanna try to make another before it gets torn down?
    Your arguement is actually weak.
    Its logging in personally I want them to remove the calandar system since everyone whines it's not enough anyways.

    Entitled attitudes should get nothing
    Entitled? We log in every day! It’s not *entiltement* when we do something that requires it’s activation.

    Any business that runs successfully should encourage their customers, it’s jus common sense business practice.

    It’s not wrong to ask to be appreciated in a better way when they also make the game more costly
    He doesn’t understand that, it’s just like when you go to the casino. You spend money and gamble all the time, they reward you with Rooms, free buffets, clothes, etc... and it only gets better and better the more you play at that casino rather than the competition
    What’re you saying? I don’t understand what? You jus confirmed my message of what a successful business model is.. What’s your point?
  • DrZolaDrZola Member Posts: 8,893 ★★★★★
    edited March 2019
    Unless it has changed, log-ins and sessions are part of the metrics used to evaluate apps (factored into “active users” among other things). So log-ins actually have some value for Kabam, meaning there’s quid pro quo.

    And then there’s always the value of that finite resource known as “your time,” which many forums users apparently value at zero.

    Dr. Zola
  • Abolitionist333_Abolitionist333_ Member Posts: 426
    DrZola said:

    Unless it has changed, log-ins and sessions are part of the metrics used to evaluate apps (factored into “active users” among other things). So log-ins actually have some value for Kabam, meaning there’s quid pro quo.

    And then there’s always the value of that finite resource known as “your time,” which many forums users apparently value at zero.

    Dr. Zola

    It’s weird. I value my time.. The *monthly* calendar’s should carry more of an incentive to keep playing. These rewards have been basic for how long? It’s borderline insulting, honestly...
  • DarthHaasDarthHaas Member Posts: 385 ★★
    @DrZola laying down the truth! I’m gonna say it’s outdated for a lot of the end game users. It’s “free” so I can’t conplain, well everything I do on this game is my choice so I shouldn’t complain about any of it. But asking or making the suggestion for a tiered calendar above the weekly one is not wrong. It’s all in the presentation peeps!
  • Abolitionist333_Abolitionist333_ Member Posts: 426
    DarthHaas said:

    @DrZola laying down the truth! I’m gonna say it’s outdated for a lot of the end game users. It’s “free” so I can’t conplain, well everything I do on this game is my choice so I shouldn’t complain about any of it. But asking or making the suggestion for a tiered calendar above the weekly one is not wrong. It’s all in the presentation peeps!

    Why can’t you complain? Do you enjoy getting the same appreciation rewards for 4 years? I don’t. I haven’t even been playing for that long either.
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Member, Guardian Posts: 19,301 Guardian
    DrZola said:

    Unless it has changed, log-ins and sessions are part of the metrics used to evaluate apps (factored into “active users” among other things). So log-ins actually have some value for Kabam, meaning there’s quid pro quo.

    And then there’s always the value of that finite resource known as “your time,” which many forums users apparently value at zero.

    Dr. Zola

    You can value your time in any way you want, but you don't get to tell anyone you spend it on that they owe you for it. Kabam, nor any other game operator, owes you something for the time you spend on their game, any more than you owe me anything for the time I spent reading your post.

    Also, "logins" don't have value to Kabam in the sense you mean. Kabam doesn't report them, so they can't directly monetize them. It doesn't magically make the game more valuable. Kabam uses logins as an internal metric to measure the health of their game, but that has to do with what game operators call "engagement" not value. It is a tool used to retain players.

    Most critically: the calendar isn't a reward for your time, or payment for your time. It is a game balance tool used to reduce the slope of the player population progression curve. It is wrapped up in loyalty reward wrapping paper, but that's just decoration, that's not its actual game design function. This relates to the fundamental difference between an incentive and a reward. Those two things might look similar, but they are completely different things.
  • Abolitionist333_Abolitionist333_ Member Posts: 426
    Drooped2 said:

    DarthHaas said:

    @DrZola laying down the truth! I’m gonna say it’s outdated for a lot of the end game users. It’s “free” so I can’t conplain, well everything I do on this game is my choice so I shouldn’t complain about any of it. But asking or making the suggestion for a tiered calendar above the weekly one is not wrong. It’s all in the presentation peeps!

    Why can’t you complain? Do you enjoy getting the same appreciation rewards for 4 years? I don’t. I haven’t even been playing for that long either.
    I go to the same store every week they dont offer me **** I have a choice I can go elsewhere. Sorry but your choice to play shouldnt be rewarded. That's ENTITLEMENT.

    But your free stuff isnt good enough for you..

    Seriously kabam end the calendars.
    I already said I know I’m *Not* entitled to calendar rewards. Is that clear enough? Should I say it again? I’m not entitled to free rewards. One more time? I know they’re appreciation rewards. But those same appreciation rewards are given in hope to *encourage* people to continue to play, right?

    What happens when people lose that encouragement? They lose interest! Uh oh.

    If you’re a successful business who has goals of staying in business, you should increase rewards when you make things more costly in the game; gold, resources, rank up materials.

    It’s to carry the encouragement over to the transfer of difficulty because a lot of people aren’t getting encouraged through calendar’s anymore as things become more costly.

    So, please, drop the entitlement argument. It’s weak.
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Member, Guardian Posts: 19,301 Guardian

    Drooped2 said:

    Addyos said:

    No, it’s not free stuff. We log in every day which makes them revenue. It’s not free. Time isn’t free.

    Then don't log in everyday if your time is so valuable. Simple.
    That’s a really weak argument. Do you wanna try to make another before it gets torn down?
    Your arguement is actually weak.
    Its logging in personally I want them to remove the calandar system since everyone whines it's not enough anyways.

    Entitled attitudes should get nothing
    Entitled? We log in every day! It’s not *entiltement* when we do something that requires it’s activation.

    Any business that runs successfully should encourage their customers, it’s jus common sense business practice.

    It’s not wrong to ask to be appreciated in a better way when they also make the game more costly
    He doesn’t understand that, it’s just like when you go to the casino. You spend money and gamble all the time, they reward you with Rooms, free buffets, clothes, etc... and it only gets better and better the more you play at that casino rather than the competition
    What’re you saying? I don’t understand what? You jus confirmed my message of what a successful business model is.. What’s your point?
    Perhaps if you were looking at this topic calmly and logically, you'd see the person you just berated was trying to agree with you.
  • Abolitionist333_Abolitionist333_ Member Posts: 426
    DNA3000 said:

    Drooped2 said:

    Addyos said:

    No, it’s not free stuff. We log in every day which makes them revenue. It’s not free. Time isn’t free.

    Then don't log in everyday if your time is so valuable. Simple.
    That’s a really weak argument. Do you wanna try to make another before it gets torn down?
    Your arguement is actually weak.
    Its logging in personally I want them to remove the calandar system since everyone whines it's not enough anyways.

    Entitled attitudes should get nothing
    Entitled? We log in every day! It’s not *entiltement* when we do something that requires it’s activation.

    Any business that runs successfully should encourage their customers, it’s jus common sense business practice.

    It’s not wrong to ask to be appreciated in a better way when they also make the game more costly
    He doesn’t understand that, it’s just like when you go to the casino. You spend money and gamble all the time, they reward you with Rooms, free buffets, clothes, etc... and it only gets better and better the more you play at that casino rather than the competition
    What’re you saying? I don’t understand what? You jus confirmed my message of what a successful business model is.. What’s your point?
    Perhaps if you were looking at this topic calmly and logically, you'd see the person you just berated was trying to agree with you.
    Berated? Lol by asking for clarification? Maybe it’s your tone that you read my texts in.. #Next
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Member, Guardian Posts: 19,301 Guardian

    DNA3000 said:

    Drooped2 said:

    Addyos said:

    No, it’s not free stuff. We log in every day which makes them revenue. It’s not free. Time isn’t free.

    Then don't log in everyday if your time is so valuable. Simple.
    That’s a really weak argument. Do you wanna try to make another before it gets torn down?
    Your arguement is actually weak.
    Its logging in personally I want them to remove the calandar system since everyone whines it's not enough anyways.

    Entitled attitudes should get nothing
    Entitled? We log in every day! It’s not *entiltement* when we do something that requires it’s activation.

    Any business that runs successfully should encourage their customers, it’s jus common sense business practice.

    It’s not wrong to ask to be appreciated in a better way when they also make the game more costly
    He doesn’t understand that, it’s just like when you go to the casino. You spend money and gamble all the time, they reward you with Rooms, free buffets, clothes, etc... and it only gets better and better the more you play at that casino rather than the competition
    What’re you saying? I don’t understand what? You jus confirmed my message of what a successful business model is.. What’s your point?
    Perhaps if you were looking at this topic calmly and logically, you'd see the person you just berated was trying to agree with you.
    Berated? Lol by asking for clarification? Maybe it’s your tone that you read my texts in.. #Next
    What’re you saying? I don’t understand what? What’s your point?
  • Abolitionist333_Abolitionist333_ Member Posts: 426
    I don’t have to sit and think for hours about what I wanna say. I can speak and think clearly and calmly without waiting. I’ve been straight to the point because I don’t like to make a lot of comments and say “maybes” or “perhaps”.. what’s the point for a forum who runs fast? I’m not dating anyone here. I’m not pursuing any relationship whether it be friends, family, or spouse.. it’s a business.. with an outdated business model.. Fix it
  • Abolitionist333_Abolitionist333_ Member Posts: 426
    edited March 2019
    DNA3000 said:

    DNA3000 said:

    Drooped2 said:

    Addyos said:

    No, it’s not free stuff. We log in every day which makes them revenue. It’s not free. Time isn’t free.

    Then don't log in everyday if your time is so valuable. Simple.
    That’s a really weak argument. Do you wanna try to make another before it gets torn down?
    Your arguement is actually weak.
    Its logging in personally I want them to remove the calandar system since everyone whines it's not enough anyways.

    Entitled attitudes should get nothing
    Entitled? We log in every day! It’s not *entiltement* when we do something that requires it’s activation.

    Any business that runs successfully should encourage their customers, it’s jus common sense business practice.

    It’s not wrong to ask to be appreciated in a better way when they also make the game more costly
    He doesn’t understand that, it’s just like when you go to the casino. You spend money and gamble all the time, they reward you with Rooms, free buffets, clothes, etc... and it only gets better and better the more you play at that casino rather than the competition
    What’re you saying? I don’t understand what? You jus confirmed my message of what a successful business model is.. What’s your point?
    Perhaps if you were looking at this topic calmly and logically, you'd see the person you just berated was trying to agree with you.
    Berated? Lol by asking for clarification? Maybe it’s your tone that you read my texts in.. #Next
    What’re you saying? I don’t understand what? What’s your point?
    Woah woah woah lol did you jus berate me!? Lol Anyway.. #Next

    Let’s keep the focus on the outdated business model and not how you misread my texts.. Thanks
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Member, Guardian Posts: 19,301 Guardian

    DNA3000 said:

    Drooped2 said:

    Addyos said:

    No, it’s not free stuff. We log in every day which makes them revenue. It’s not free. Time isn’t free.

    Then don't log in everyday if your time is so valuable. Simple.
    That’s a really weak argument. Do you wanna try to make another before it gets torn down?
    Your arguement is actually weak.
    Its logging in personally I want them to remove the calandar system since everyone whines it's not enough anyways.

    Entitled attitudes should get nothing
    Entitled? We log in every day! It’s not *entiltement* when we do something that requires it’s activation.

    Any business that runs successfully should encourage their customers, it’s jus common sense business practice.

    It’s not wrong to ask to be appreciated in a better way when they also make the game more costly
    He doesn’t understand that, it’s just like when you go to the casino. You spend money and gamble all the time, they reward you with Rooms, free buffets, clothes, etc... and it only gets better and better the more you play at that casino rather than the competition
    What’re you saying? I don’t understand what? You jus confirmed my message of what a successful business model is.. What’s your point?
    Perhaps if you were looking at this topic calmly and logically, you'd see the person you just berated was trying to agree with you.
    Berated? Lol by asking for clarification? Maybe it’s your tone that you read my texts in.. #Next
    What's your point?
  • Abolitionist333_Abolitionist333_ Member Posts: 426
    Drooped2 said:

    Drooped2 said:

    DarthHaas said:

    @DrZola laying down the truth! I’m gonna say it’s outdated for a lot of the end game users. It’s “free” so I can’t conplain, well everything I do on this game is my choice so I shouldn’t complain about any of it. But asking or making the suggestion for a tiered calendar above the weekly one is not wrong. It’s all in the presentation peeps!

    Why can’t you complain? Do you enjoy getting the same appreciation rewards for 4 years? I don’t. I haven’t even been playing for that long either.
    I go to the same store every week they dont offer me **** I have a choice I can go elsewhere. Sorry but your choice to play shouldnt be rewarded. That's ENTITLEMENT.

    But your free stuff isnt good enough for you..

    Seriously kabam end the calendars.
    I already said I know I’m *Not* entitled to calendar rewards. Is that clear enough? Should I say it again? I’m not entitled to free rewards. One more time? I know they’re appreciation rewards. But those same appreciation rewards are given in hope to *encourage* people to continue to play, right?

    What happens when people lose that encouragement? They lose interest! Uh oh.

    If you’re a successful business who has goals of staying in business, you should increase rewards when you make things more costly in the game; gold, resources, rank up materials.

    It’s to carry the encouragement over to the transfer of difficulty because a lot of people aren’t getting encouraged through calendar’s anymore as things become more costly.

    So, please, drop the entitlement argument. It’s weak.
    Ok they should increase the *rewards* when they make things more costly or harder.

    Cool come back when they increase the cost or make it harder and ask for an increase


    They just lowered aq map costs
    Aw costs are the same
    Arena no cost
    Events no cost
    Ranking champions same cost as before.

    So then again when those costs go up tour complaint might become valid.
    Our complaints do carry weight. Do you want the same outdated calendar for when Act 6 is coming around? We get about, what, 50k in Gold every month, maybe? It’s outdated.

    1 t4b and 1 t4cc... It’s outdated..
  • Abolitionist333_Abolitionist333_ Member Posts: 426
    edited March 2019
    Drooped2 said:

    Actually thinking it out since with difficulty the log in should scale since the only change was aq costs being lowered the calendar should get worse.

    Appreciation rewards are to encourage people to play monthly.

    How do you think the spenders of a casino feels when they get the same outdated package appreciation as a free to play?
  • Abolitionist333_Abolitionist333_ Member Posts: 426
    Drooped2 said:

    Drooped2 said:

    Drooped2 said:

    DarthHaas said:

    @DrZola laying down the truth! I’m gonna say it’s outdated for a lot of the end game users. It’s “free” so I can’t conplain, well everything I do on this game is my choice so I shouldn’t complain about any of it. But asking or making the suggestion for a tiered calendar above the weekly one is not wrong. It’s all in the presentation peeps!

    Why can’t you complain? Do you enjoy getting the same appreciation rewards for 4 years? I don’t. I haven’t even been playing for that long either.
    I go to the same store every week they dont offer me **** I have a choice I can go elsewhere. Sorry but your choice to play shouldnt be rewarded. That's ENTITLEMENT.

    But your free stuff isnt good enough for you..

    Seriously kabam end the calendars.
    I already said I know I’m *Not* entitled to calendar rewards. Is that clear enough? Should I say it again? I’m not entitled to free rewards. One more time? I know they’re appreciation rewards. But those same appreciation rewards are given in hope to *encourage* people to continue to play, right?

    What happens when people lose that encouragement? They lose interest! Uh oh.

    If you’re a successful business who has goals of staying in business, you should increase rewards when you make things more costly in the game; gold, resources, rank up materials.

    It’s to carry the encouragement over to the transfer of difficulty because a lot of people aren’t getting encouraged through calendar’s anymore as things become more costly.

    So, please, drop the entitlement argument. It’s weak.
    Ok they should increase the *rewards* when they make things more costly or harder.

    Cool come back when they increase the cost or make it harder and ask for an increase


    They just lowered aq map costs
    Aw costs are the same
    Arena no cost
    Events no cost
    Ranking champions same cost as before.

    So then again when those costs go up tour complaint might become valid.
    Our complaints do carry weight. Do you want the same outdated calendar for when Act 6 is coming around? We get about, what, 50k in Gold every month, maybe? It’s outdated.

    1 t4b and 1 t4cc... It’s outdated..
    I dont think we should have free stuff so it's not outdated.
    It’s not free. The appreciation package is definitely outdated for what the game has scaled to. Your estimates are off..

  • DNA3000DNA3000 Member, Guardian Posts: 19,301 Guardian
    Drooped2 said:

    Drooped2 said:

    Drooped2 said:

    Drooped2 said:

    DarthHaas said:

    @DrZola laying down the truth! I’m gonna say it’s outdated for a lot of the end game users. It’s “free” so I can’t conplain, well everything I do on this game is my choice so I shouldn’t complain about any of it. But asking or making the suggestion for a tiered calendar above the weekly one is not wrong. It’s all in the presentation peeps!

    Why can’t you complain? Do you enjoy getting the same appreciation rewards for 4 years? I don’t. I haven’t even been playing for that long either.
    I go to the same store every week they dont offer me **** I have a choice I can go elsewhere. Sorry but your choice to play shouldnt be rewarded. That's ENTITLEMENT.

    But your free stuff isnt good enough for you..

    Seriously kabam end the calendars.
    I already said I know I’m *Not* entitled to calendar rewards. Is that clear enough? Should I say it again? I’m not entitled to free rewards. One more time? I know they’re appreciation rewards. But those same appreciation rewards are given in hope to *encourage* people to continue to play, right?

    What happens when people lose that encouragement? They lose interest! Uh oh.

    If you’re a successful business who has goals of staying in business, you should increase rewards when you make things more costly in the game; gold, resources, rank up materials.

    It’s to carry the encouragement over to the transfer of difficulty because a lot of people aren’t getting encouraged through calendar’s anymore as things become more costly.

    So, please, drop the entitlement argument. It’s weak.
    Ok they should increase the *rewards* when they make things more costly or harder.

    Cool come back when they increase the cost or make it harder and ask for an increase


    They just lowered aq map costs
    Aw costs are the same
    Arena no cost
    Events no cost
    Ranking champions same cost as before.

    So then again when those costs go up tour complaint might become valid.
    Our complaints do carry weight. Do you want the same outdated calendar for when Act 6 is coming around? We get about, what, 50k in Gold every month, maybe? It’s outdated.

    1 t4b and 1 t4cc... It’s outdated..
    I dont think we should have free stuff so it's not outdated.
    It’s not free. The appreciation package is definitely outdated for what the game has scaled to. Your estimates are off..

    Logging in and logging off isnt free? Fine it's worth 1 minute of your day
    So what's the value of 1 minute? Pretty low. Seems fine to me
    It takes a minute to log in. But it isn't "worth" a minute. You don't get to tell Kabam what your time is worth and demand compensation for your time any more than I can go to McDonalds and demand compensation for the time I spent driving there. You can try to argue that if I didn't spend that time then McDonalds can't make money so they should compensate me for that time, but the world doesn't work that way. If a client told me that, they would cease to be my client very fast.

    What you get for the time you put into the game is [i]a game[/i]. If the game is not worth your time, you shouldn't be playing the game.
  • Abolitionist333_Abolitionist333_ Member Posts: 426
    Drooped2 said:

    Drooped2 said:

    Drooped2 said:

    Drooped2 said:

    DarthHaas said:

    @DrZola laying down the truth! I’m gonna say it’s outdated for a lot of the end game users. It’s “free” so I can’t conplain, well everything I do on this game is my choice so I shouldn’t complain about any of it. But asking or making the suggestion for a tiered calendar above the weekly one is not wrong. It’s all in the presentation peeps!

    Why can’t you complain? Do you enjoy getting the same appreciation rewards for 4 years? I don’t. I haven’t even been playing for that long either.
    I go to the same store every week they dont offer me **** I have a choice I can go elsewhere. Sorry but your choice to play shouldnt be rewarded. That's ENTITLEMENT.

    But your free stuff isnt good enough for you..

    Seriously kabam end the calendars.
    I already said I know I’m *Not* entitled to calendar rewards. Is that clear enough? Should I say it again? I’m not entitled to free rewards. One more time? I know they’re appreciation rewards. But those same appreciation rewards are given in hope to *encourage* people to continue to play, right?

    What happens when people lose that encouragement? They lose interest! Uh oh.

    If you’re a successful business who has goals of staying in business, you should increase rewards when you make things more costly in the game; gold, resources, rank up materials.

    It’s to carry the encouragement over to the transfer of difficulty because a lot of people aren’t getting encouraged through calendar’s anymore as things become more costly.

    So, please, drop the entitlement argument. It’s weak.
    Ok they should increase the *rewards* when they make things more costly or harder.

    Cool come back when they increase the cost or make it harder and ask for an increase


    They just lowered aq map costs
    Aw costs are the same
    Arena no cost
    Events no cost
    Ranking champions same cost as before.

    So then again when those costs go up tour complaint might become valid.
    Our complaints do carry weight. Do you want the same outdated calendar for when Act 6 is coming around? We get about, what, 50k in Gold every month, maybe? It’s outdated.

    1 t4b and 1 t4cc... It’s outdated..
    I dont think we should have free stuff so it's not outdated.
    It’s not free. The appreciation package is definitely outdated for what the game has scaled to. Your estimates are off..

    Logging in and logging off isnt free? Fine it's worth 1 minute of your day
    So what's the value of 1 minute? Pretty low. Seems fine to me
    It’s not 1 minute, it’s constant activity on their app. You may not think it’s difficult to get that minute but if you’re trying to get your business off the ground or to keep from tanking, those minutes add up among players. It’s not just me, so don’t act like it’s jus one minute
  • Abolitionist333_Abolitionist333_ Member Posts: 426
    DNA3000 said:

    Drooped2 said:

    Drooped2 said:

    Drooped2 said:

    Drooped2 said:

    DarthHaas said:

    @DrZola laying down the truth! I’m gonna say it’s outdated for a lot of the end game users. It’s “free” so I can’t conplain, well everything I do on this game is my choice so I shouldn’t complain about any of it. But asking or making the suggestion for a tiered calendar above the weekly one is not wrong. It’s all in the presentation peeps!

    Why can’t you complain? Do you enjoy getting the same appreciation rewards for 4 years? I don’t. I haven’t even been playing for that long either.
    I go to the same store every week they dont offer me **** I have a choice I can go elsewhere. Sorry but your choice to play shouldnt be rewarded. That's ENTITLEMENT.

    But your free stuff isnt good enough for you..

    Seriously kabam end the calendars.
    I already said I know I’m *Not* entitled to calendar rewards. Is that clear enough? Should I say it again? I’m not entitled to free rewards. One more time? I know they’re appreciation rewards. But those same appreciation rewards are given in hope to *encourage* people to continue to play, right?

    What happens when people lose that encouragement? They lose interest! Uh oh.

    If you’re a successful business who has goals of staying in business, you should increase rewards when you make things more costly in the game; gold, resources, rank up materials.

    It’s to carry the encouragement over to the transfer of difficulty because a lot of people aren’t getting encouraged through calendar’s anymore as things become more costly.

    So, please, drop the entitlement argument. It’s weak.
    Ok they should increase the *rewards* when they make things more costly or harder.

    Cool come back when they increase the cost or make it harder and ask for an increase


    They just lowered aq map costs
    Aw costs are the same
    Arena no cost
    Events no cost
    Ranking champions same cost as before.

    So then again when those costs go up tour complaint might become valid.
    Our complaints do carry weight. Do you want the same outdated calendar for when Act 6 is coming around? We get about, what, 50k in Gold every month, maybe? It’s outdated.

    1 t4b and 1 t4cc... It’s outdated..
    I dont think we should have free stuff so it's not outdated.
    It’s not free. The appreciation package is definitely outdated for what the game has scaled to. Your estimates are off..

    Logging in and logging off isnt free? Fine it's worth 1 minute of your day
    So what's the value of 1 minute? Pretty low. Seems fine to me
    It takes a minute to log in. But it isn't "worth" a minute. You don't get to tell Kabam what your time is worth and demand compensation for your time any more than I can go to McDonalds and demand compensation for the time I spent driving there. You can try to argue that if I didn't spend that time then McDonalds can't make money so they should compensate me for that time, but the world doesn't work that way. If a client told me that, they would cease to be my client very fast.

    What you get for the time you put into the game is [i]a game[/i]. If the game is not worth your time, you shouldn't be playing the game.
    Arguments like your’s are some of the main reasons why we don’t see improvements. It sounds like you’re contempt with the basic calendar appreciation package apparently.. Are you a free to play too? It sounds like it..
  • DrZolaDrZola Member Posts: 8,893 ★★★★★
    DNA3000 said:

    DrZola said:

    Unless it has changed, log-ins and sessions are part of the metrics used to evaluate apps (factored into “active users” among other things). So log-ins actually have some value for Kabam, meaning there’s quid pro quo.

    And then there’s always the value of that finite resource known as “your time,” which many forums users apparently value at zero.

    Dr. Zola

    You can value your time in any way you want, but you don't get to tell anyone you spend it on that they owe you for it. Kabam, nor any other game operator, owes you something for the time you spend on their game, any more than you owe me anything for the time I spent reading your post.

    Also, "logins" don't have value to Kabam in the sense you mean. Kabam doesn't report them, so they can't directly monetize them. It doesn't magically make the game more valuable. Kabam uses logins as an internal metric to measure the health of their game, but that has to do with what game operators call "engagement" not value. It is a tool used to retain players.

    Most critically: the calendar isn't a reward for your time, or payment for your time. It is a game balance tool used to reduce the slope of the player population progression curve. It is wrapped up in loyalty reward wrapping paper, but that's just decoration, that's not its actual game design function. This relates to the fundamental difference between an incentive and a reward. Those two things might look similar, but they are completely different things.
    I’m not sure I could disagree with you more.

    Do you mean to suggest that app makers don’t value the time a user spends on their app? Perhaps you’ve spent enough time on the programming side that you take share of user time and attention for granted?

    There’s a very good reason log in rewards exist, and it isn’t benevolence or a desire to boost lower gamers or help the progression curve, and I am perplexed that you would posit such a naive argument.

    Also: the key difference between reading my post and logging in is I’m not looking to make money off your reading my post. More: I wasn’t suggesting there’s some reporting requirement for engagement, but if you think that data isn’t highly relevant internally, then there’s no point going further. And “retention”? That’s gamespeak for keeping people around and profitable.

    Dr. Zola
  • Abolitionist333_Abolitionist333_ Member Posts: 426
    DrZola said:

    DNA3000 said:

    DrZola said:

    Unless it has changed, log-ins and sessions are part of the metrics used to evaluate apps (factored into “active users” among other things). So log-ins actually have some value for Kabam, meaning there’s quid pro quo.

    And then there’s always the value of that finite resource known as “your time,” which many forums users apparently value at zero.

    Dr. Zola

    You can value your time in any way you want, but you don't get to tell anyone you spend it on that they owe you for it. Kabam, nor any other game operator, owes you something for the time you spend on their game, any more than you owe me anything for the time I spent reading your post.

    Also, "logins" don't have value to Kabam in the sense you mean. Kabam doesn't report them, so they can't directly monetize them. It doesn't magically make the game more valuable. Kabam uses logins as an internal metric to measure the health of their game, but that has to do with what game operators call "engagement" not value. It is a tool used to retain players.

    Most critically: the calendar isn't a reward for your time, or payment for your time. It is a game balance tool used to reduce the slope of the player population progression curve. It is wrapped up in loyalty reward wrapping paper, but that's just decoration, that's not its actual game design function. This relates to the fundamental difference between an incentive and a reward. Those two things might look similar, but they are completely different things.
    I’m not sure I could disagree with you more.

    Do you mean to suggest that app makers don’t value the time a user spends on their app? Perhaps you’ve spent enough time on the programming side that you take share of user time and attention for granted?

    There’s a very good reason log in rewards exist, and it isn’t benevolence or a desire to boost lower gamers or help the progression curve, and I am perplexed that you would posit such a naive argument.

    Also: the key difference between reading my post and logging in is I’m not looking to make money off your reading my post. More: I wasn’t suggesting there’s some reporting requirement for engagement, but if you think that data isn’t highly relevant internally, then there’s no point going further. And “retention”? That’s gamespeak for keeping people around and profitable.

    Dr. Zola
    I appreciate the help, Zola!

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