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KingBezKingBez Member Posts: 25 ★
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So I've got blade in alliance wars and as always hes got his Ghost Rider backpack on and ready for an adventure... While on his adventure he encounters a wild CG! Going in ready to given the beat down danger sense does not show up. Is CG not a villain??

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  • SolswerdSolswerd Member Posts: 1,896 ★★★★
    edited April 2019
    Corvus is not a villain in this game...he is classified as Thanos' army or something...
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  • HaminHamin Member Posts: 2,444 ★★★★★
    No, he's not labeled as a villain.


  • Dexman1349Dexman1349 Member Posts: 3,060 ★★★★★
    And you will also see that Corvus is essentially bleed-immune. You can still inflict it (and get power gain), but he won't take any damage from it.
  • RichiesDad79RichiesDad79 Member Posts: 1,036 ★★★
    edited April 2019
    For danger sense to consider an opponent a villain, he must have a "villain" as one of his tags. Corvis Glaive dies not have this tag, nor does Proxima Midnight. Kinda sketchy considering they are definately evil as hell.
  • LeNoirFaineantLeNoirFaineant Member Posts: 8,693 ★★★★★
    RichiesDad79 said:

    For danger sense to consider an opponent a villain, he must have a "villain" as one of his tags. Corvis Glaive dies not have this tag, nor does Proxima Midnight. Kinda sketchy considering they are definately evil as hell.

    They came out when Blade was still destroying all content so they found an excuse to not give them the villain tag. It is garbage though.
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  • DNA3000DNA3000 Member, Guardian Posts: 21,052 Guardian
    LeNoirFaineant said:

    RichiesDad79 said:

    For danger sense to consider an opponent a villain, he must have a "villain" as one of his tags. Corvis Glaive dies not have this tag, nor does Proxima Midnight. Kinda sketchy considering they are definately evil as hell.

    They came out when Blade was still destroying all content so they found an excuse to not give them the villain tag. It is garbage though.
    Shouldn't Marvel get the final say on whether a character they own in a story have editorial control over in a fictional universe they created is a villain or not?
  • LormifLormif Member Posts: 7,369 ★★★★★
    DNA3000 said:

    LeNoirFaineant said:

    RichiesDad79 said:

    For danger sense to consider an opponent a villain, he must have a "villain" as one of his tags. Corvis Glaive dies not have this tag, nor does Proxima Midnight. Kinda sketchy considering they are definately evil as hell.

    They came out when Blade was still destroying all content so they found an excuse to not give them the villain tag. It is garbage though.
    Shouldn't Marvel get the final say on whether a character they own in a story have editorial control over in a fictional universe they created is a villain or not?
    kabam is a separate universe, not part of the mcu, they are given great latitude.
  • shadow_lurker22shadow_lurker22 Member Posts: 3,245 ★★★★★
    DNA3000 said:

    LeNoirFaineant said:

    RichiesDad79 said:

    For danger sense to consider an opponent a villain, he must have a "villain" as one of his tags. Corvis Glaive dies not have this tag, nor does Proxima Midnight. Kinda sketchy considering they are definately evil as hell.

    They came out when Blade was still destroying all content so they found an excuse to not give them the villain tag. It is garbage though.
    Shouldn't Marvel get the final say on whether a character they own in a story have editorial control over in a fictional universe they created is a villain or not?
    According to Mike they do
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Member, Guardian Posts: 21,052 Guardian
    Lormif said:

    DNA3000 said:

    LeNoirFaineant said:

    RichiesDad79 said:

    For danger sense to consider an opponent a villain, he must have a "villain" as one of his tags. Corvis Glaive dies not have this tag, nor does Proxima Midnight. Kinda sketchy considering they are definately evil as hell.

    They came out when Blade was still destroying all content so they found an excuse to not give them the villain tag. It is garbage though.
    Shouldn't Marvel get the final say on whether a character they own in a story have editorial control over in a fictional universe they created is a villain or not?
    kabam is a separate universe, not part of the mcu, they are given great latitude.
    Um, yes. MCOC is not a part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe. That's definitely true. I'm not sure why you're quoting me.
  • LormifLormif Member Posts: 7,369 ★★★★★
    DNA3000 said:

    Lormif said:

    DNA3000 said:

    LeNoirFaineant said:

    RichiesDad79 said:

    For danger sense to consider an opponent a villain, he must have a "villain" as one of his tags. Corvis Glaive dies not have this tag, nor does Proxima Midnight. Kinda sketchy considering they are definately evil as hell.

    They came out when Blade was still destroying all content so they found an excuse to not give them the villain tag. It is garbage though.
    Shouldn't Marvel get the final say on whether a character they own in a story have editorial control over in a fictional universe they created is a villain or not?
    kabam is a separate universe, not part of the mcu, they are given great latitude.
    Um, yes. MCOC is not a part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe. That's definitely true. I'm not sure why you're quoting me.
    because it goes straight to your question....
  • HaminHamin Member Posts: 2,444 ★★★★★
    Well, to be fair... he and the Black Order aren't villains in the MCU. They are part of Thanos' Army; likewise, Thanos isn't a villain in the MCU, either.

    His motives are altruistic not malevolent. Thanos actually cares for life and wants it to be able to continue.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 37,732 ★★★★★
    ^ Yep. They're minions of Thanos. Thanos is the Villain. While they may be villainous, they're following orders from Thanos.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 37,732 ★★★★★
    Although I don't agree that Thanos isn't a Villain. Unless they Tag him as "Misunderstood". Lol.
  • LormifLormif Member Posts: 7,369 ★★★★★
    edited April 2019
    Hamin said:

    Well, to be fair... he and the Black Order aren't villains in the MCU. They are part of Thanos' Army; likewise, Thanos isn't a villain in the MCU, either.

    His motives are altruistic not malevolent. Thanos actually cares for life and wants it to be able to continue.

    a villain is relative, in the mcu he is a villain, his actions are evil, they may be for the "greater good", but his actions would be considered evil. He would be considered lawful evil with the "ends justifies the means" mentality.

    Also he could not be considered alturistic, as that shows a selfless care for others, he has no care about others, they are part of the problem.
  • HaminHamin Member Posts: 2,444 ★★★★★
    Lormif said:

    Hamin said:

    Well, to be fair... he and the Black Order aren't villains in the MCU. They are part of Thanos' Army; likewise, Thanos isn't a villain in the MCU, either.

    His motives are altruistic not malevolent. Thanos actually cares for life and wants it to be able to continue.

    a villain is relative, in the mcu he is a villain, his actions are evil, they may be for the "greater good", but his actions would be considered evil. He would be considered lawful evil with the "ends justifies the means" mentality.

    Also he could not be considered alturistic, as that shows a selfless care for others, he has no care about others, they are part of the problem.
    Did you watch the same movie as me?
  • LormifLormif Member Posts: 7,369 ★★★★★
    Hamin said:

    Lormif said:

    Hamin said:

    Well, to be fair... he and the Black Order aren't villains in the MCU. They are part of Thanos' Army; likewise, Thanos isn't a villain in the MCU, either.

    His motives are altruistic not malevolent. Thanos actually cares for life and wants it to be able to continue.

    a villain is relative, in the mcu he is a villain, his actions are evil, they may be for the "greater good", but his actions would be considered evil. He would be considered lawful evil with the "ends justifies the means" mentality.

    Also he could not be considered alturistic, as that shows a selfless care for others, he has no care about others, they are part of the problem.
    Did you watch the same movie as me?
    Yes, he killed half the universe, showing that he has no care for those people. Killing people is considered a very evil act. It may be for the "greater good", but that does not change that that act is considered evil, and on its own shows a disregard for those individuals.

    You are confusing the means and the ends. The end result of what he is wanting to do can be considered good, but you cannot ignore how he goes about it.
  • HaminHamin Member Posts: 2,444 ★★★★★
    GroundedWisdom said:

    Although I don't agree that Thanos isn't a Villain. Unless they Tag him as "Misunderstood". Lol.

    In the comics he is not so much in the MCU.

    Compare him to other MCU villains: Ronan, Ego, Ultron, etc. Their intentions are selfish, hateful, malicious and so on.

    Thanos wants all peoples to be able to continue and not suffer the fate of his... because he genuinely cares. Granted... his plan is extreme AF... but yeah. It's not evil.
  • SnizzbarSnizzbar Member Posts: 2,313 ★★★★★
    One of you is confused, that's for sure.
  • LormifLormif Member Posts: 7,369 ★★★★★
    Hamin said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    Although I don't agree that Thanos isn't a Villain. Unless they Tag him as "Misunderstood". Lol.

    In the comics he is not so much in the MCU.

    Compare him to other MCU villains: Ronan, Ego, Ultron, etc. Their intentions are selfish, hateful, malicious and so on.

    Thanos wants all peoples to be able to continue and not suffer the fate of his... because he genuinely cares. Granted... his plan is extreme AF... but yeah. It's not evil.
    all peoples except the ones he killed? He does not care about people, he cares about life, he does not care what life continues as long as life in general does. His plan is 100% evil, the same as if the government decided to kill everyone over the age of 50 so that there was room for younger people.
  • HaminHamin Member Posts: 2,444 ★★★★★
    Lormif said:

    Hamin said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    Although I don't agree that Thanos isn't a Villain. Unless they Tag him as "Misunderstood". Lol.

    In the comics he is not so much in the MCU.

    Compare him to other MCU villains: Ronan, Ego, Ultron, etc. Their intentions are selfish, hateful, malicious and so on.

    Thanos wants all peoples to be able to continue and not suffer the fate of his... because he genuinely cares. Granted... his plan is extreme AF... but yeah. It's not evil.
    all peoples except the ones he killed? He does not care about people, he cares about life, he does not care what life continues as long as life in general does. His plan is 100% evil, the same as if the government decided to kill everyone over the age of 50 so that there was room for younger people.
    Peoples = types of people not individuals

    His plan is not 100% evil. It's 100% altruistic.

    He doesn't think individuals are more important than life surviving.
  • LormifLormif Member Posts: 7,369 ★★★★★
    edited April 2019
    Hamin said:

    Lormif said:

    Hamin said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    Although I don't agree that Thanos isn't a Villain. Unless they Tag him as "Misunderstood". Lol.

    In the comics he is not so much in the MCU.

    Compare him to other MCU villains: Ronan, Ego, Ultron, etc. Their intentions are selfish, hateful, malicious and so on.

    Thanos wants all peoples to be able to continue and not suffer the fate of his... because he genuinely cares. Granted... his plan is extreme AF... but yeah. It's not evil.
    all peoples except the ones he killed? He does not care about people, he cares about life, he does not care what life continues as long as life in general does. His plan is 100% evil, the same as if the government decided to kill everyone over the age of 50 so that there was room for younger people.
    Peoples = types of people not individuals

    His plan is not 100% evil. It's 100% altruistic.

    He doesn't think individuals are more important than life surviving.
    That is not alturistioc:


    al·tru·is·tic
    /ˌaltro͞oˈistik/
    adjective
    showing a disinterested and selfless concern for the well-being of others; unselfish.

    He has to care about others, as in individuals. That is "ends justifies the means". He committed evil acts, unless you dont think murder is evil, in order to serve the greater good.

    "The end justifies the means" is the creed of this alignment. Lawful Evil characters may actually have admirable goals, but the means that they are willing to take are, more often than not, deplorable. Lawful Evil characters are often better versed in the letter of the law than the best paladins, and they stand ready to twist every phrase to suit their goals. It is necessary to remember that exactly what is and is not evil will vary from society to society. However, evil always includes the complete and utter disregard for anything that stands in the way of the character's desires. An Evil character will hurt anybody or anything to get what he wants, be it wealth or pleasure (sometimes from the inflicting of the pain).
  • HaminHamin Member Posts: 2,444 ★★★★★
    Lormif said:

    Hamin said:

    Lormif said:

    Hamin said:

    Well, to be fair... he and the Black Order aren't villains in the MCU. They are part of Thanos' Army; likewise, Thanos isn't a villain in the MCU, either.

    His motives are altruistic not malevolent. Thanos actually cares for life and wants it to be able to continue.

    a villain is relative, in the mcu he is a villain, his actions are evil, they may be for the "greater good", but his actions would be considered evil. He would be considered lawful evil with the "ends justifies the means" mentality.

    Also he could not be considered alturistic, as that shows a selfless care for others, he has no care about others, they are part of the problem.
    Did you watch the same movie as me?
    Yes, he killed half the universe, showing that he has no care for those people. Killing people is considered a very evil act. It may be for the "greater good", but that does not change that that act is considered evil, and on its own shows a disregard for those individuals.

    You are confusing the means and the ends. The end result of what he is wanting to do can be considered good, but you cannot ignore how he goes about it.
    Evil has to have intention... same as good.

    Without intention, they are just acts.

    Since his intention is to preserve life, he can't be considered evil. The way he accomplished it was probably the most awful thing ever, though.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 37,732 ★★★★★
    Hamin said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    Although I don't agree that Thanos isn't a Villain. Unless they Tag him as "Misunderstood". Lol.

    In the comics he is not so much in the MCU.

    Compare him to other MCU villains: Ronan, Ego, Ultron, etc. Their intentions are selfish, hateful, malicious and so on.

    Thanos wants all peoples to be able to continue and not suffer the fate of his... because he genuinely cares. Granted... his plan is extreme AF... but yeah. It's not evil.
    There was another man that wanted to purify Mankind to preserve it. Last I heard, he shot himself in a Bunker.
  • ẞlооdẞlооd Member Posts: 2,005 ★★★★
    How about we just tag him as #WildAF
  • HaminHamin Member Posts: 2,444 ★★★★★
    GroundedWisdom said:

    Hamin said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    Although I don't agree that Thanos isn't a Villain. Unless they Tag him as "Misunderstood". Lol.

    In the comics he is not so much in the MCU.

    Compare him to other MCU villains: Ronan, Ego, Ultron, etc. Their intentions are selfish, hateful, malicious and so on.

    Thanos wants all peoples to be able to continue and not suffer the fate of his... because he genuinely cares. Granted... his plan is extreme AF... but yeah. It's not evil.
    There was another man that wanted to purify Mankind to preserve it. Last I heard, he shot himself in a Bunker.
    His intentions were based on hate and bigotry.

    Also: Godwin'd
  • LormifLormif Member Posts: 7,369 ★★★★★
    Hamin said:

    Lormif said:

    Hamin said:

    Lormif said:

    Hamin said:

    Well, to be fair... he and the Black Order aren't villains in the MCU. They are part of Thanos' Army; likewise, Thanos isn't a villain in the MCU, either.

    His motives are altruistic not malevolent. Thanos actually cares for life and wants it to be able to continue.

    a villain is relative, in the mcu he is a villain, his actions are evil, they may be for the "greater good", but his actions would be considered evil. He would be considered lawful evil with the "ends justifies the means" mentality.

    Also he could not be considered alturistic, as that shows a selfless care for others, he has no care about others, they are part of the problem.
    Did you watch the same movie as me?
    Yes, he killed half the universe, showing that he has no care for those people. Killing people is considered a very evil act. It may be for the "greater good", but that does not change that that act is considered evil, and on its own shows a disregard for those individuals.

    You are confusing the means and the ends. The end result of what he is wanting to do can be considered good, but you cannot ignore how he goes about it.
    Evil has to have intention... same as good.

    Without intention, they are just acts.

    Since his intention is to preserve life, he can't be considered evil. The way he accomplished it was probably the most awful thing ever, though.
    No, evil does not have anything to do with the intention, evil is taken on its own... A person who decides all person of a chosen religion are evil and goes on a shooting spree is still evil even though his deluded intention would be considered good. Because his intention was to wipe out evil actors.

    Preserving life is an admirable goal, but how you go about doing it is what makes you good or evil. IF you wipe out all mankind so the planets life can continue without humans you would be evil. If you went out and planted trees you would be considered good.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 37,732 ★★★★★
    Hamin said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    Hamin said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    Although I don't agree that Thanos isn't a Villain. Unless they Tag him as "Misunderstood". Lol.

    In the comics he is not so much in the MCU.

    Compare him to other MCU villains: Ronan, Ego, Ultron, etc. Their intentions are selfish, hateful, malicious and so on.

    Thanos wants all peoples to be able to continue and not suffer the fate of his... because he genuinely cares. Granted... his plan is extreme AF... but yeah. It's not evil.
    There was another man that wanted to purify Mankind to preserve it. Last I heard, he shot himself in a Bunker.
    His intentions were based on hate and bigotry.

    Also: Godwin'd
    His intentions were based on a misguided belief that certain life-forms were destroying their way of life. Same thing.
  • LormifLormif Member Posts: 7,369 ★★★★★
    Hamin said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    Hamin said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    Although I don't agree that Thanos isn't a Villain. Unless they Tag him as "Misunderstood". Lol.

    In the comics he is not so much in the MCU.

    Compare him to other MCU villains: Ronan, Ego, Ultron, etc. Their intentions are selfish, hateful, malicious and so on.

    Thanos wants all peoples to be able to continue and not suffer the fate of his... because he genuinely cares. Granted... his plan is extreme AF... but yeah. It's not evil.
    There was another man that wanted to purify Mankind to preserve it. Last I heard, he shot himself in a Bunker.
    His intentions were based on hate and bigotry.

    Also: Godwin'd
    What you consider hate and bigotry he considered the well being of the human race... This is why "intention" is not important, because intention is relative.
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