Arena crystals give no more units??

I just opened 52 arena crystals and 0 units, they dont give anymore units?? Its first time i get 0 from that much units

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  • ItsDamienItsDamien Posts: 230
    They still give units. You just got EXTREMELY unlucky.
  • AdvaitttAdvaittt Posts: 5
    I open mine one or two at a time and get units from about 60% of them
  • ItsDamienItsDamien Posts: 230
    DemitriM said:

    Advaittt said:

    I open mine one or two at a time and get units from about 60% of them

    odds to get units is 15%...

    60% unit drop rate is just a big fat lie
    Depends on the sample size. Some people get luckier than others. I imagine that they're over exaggerating, but it's not completely impossible.
  • DemitriMDemitriM Posts: 293
    ItsDamien said:

    DemitriM said:

    Advaittt said:

    I open mine one or two at a time and get units from about 60% of them

    odds to get units is 15%...

    60% unit drop rate is just a big fat lie
    Depends on the sample size. Some people get luckier than others. I imagine that they're over exaggerating, but it's not completely impossible.
    so if I open only one crystal and get units out of it,wouldnt calling it 100% be unrealistic?

    5-10-even 100 crystals arent a reliable sample size...
  • Drooped2Drooped2 Posts: 1,840
    DemitriM said:

    ItsDamien said:

    DemitriM said:

    Advaittt said:

    I open mine one or two at a time and get units from about 60% of them

    odds to get units is 15%...

    60% unit drop rate is just a big fat lie
    Depends on the sample size. Some people get luckier than others. I imagine that they're over exaggerating, but it's not completely impossible.
    so if I open only one crystal and get units out of it,wouldnt calling it 100% be unrealistic?

    5-10-even 100 crystals arent a reliable sample size...
    Weee I just got 75 from 1 I have a 100 percent unit rate now..

    :)
  • ItsDamienItsDamien Posts: 230
    DemitriM said:

    ItsDamien said:

    DemitriM said:

    Advaittt said:

    I open mine one or two at a time and get units from about 60% of them

    odds to get units is 15%...

    60% unit drop rate is just a big fat lie
    Depends on the sample size. Some people get luckier than others. I imagine that they're over exaggerating, but it's not completely impossible.
    so if I open only one crystal and get units out of it,wouldnt calling it 100% be unrealistic?

    5-10-even 100 crystals arent a reliable sample size...
    Of course, but with every crystal being its own roll, its not impossible for that person to have a 60% unit rate that they've experienced. Just as much as the OP opened 52 and got none.

    I've had a real life experience where I won 7 straight times on a roulette table in a row, and if it weren't for the nice lady asking "Would you like to cash out some of your chips?" I probably would have lost everything. I didn't even know how much I had won up until that moment I cashed it all out. I'm not much of a real life gambler.

    While the odds are extremely low for it to happen, it's not impossible. Improbable yes, impossible no.
  • RockonRockon Posts: 192
    i spun about 30 last time and got straight gold. im going to hold off to see what happens but unit drop rate is eh
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Posts: 15,592
    It's RNG. I've gotten 0 from 5, and 90 from 4. They come and go. Same as always.
  • DemitriMDemitriM Posts: 293
    ItsDamien said:

    DemitriM said:

    ItsDamien said:

    DemitriM said:

    Advaittt said:

    I open mine one or two at a time and get units from about 60% of them

    odds to get units is 15%...

    60% unit drop rate is just a big fat lie
    Depends on the sample size. Some people get luckier than others. I imagine that they're over exaggerating, but it's not completely impossible.
    so if I open only one crystal and get units out of it,wouldnt calling it 100% be unrealistic?

    5-10-even 100 crystals arent a reliable sample size...
    Of course, but with every crystal being its own roll, its not impossible for that person to have a 60% unit rate that they've experienced. Just as much as the OP opened 52 and got none.

    I've had a real life experience where I won 7 straight times on a roulette table in a row, and if it weren't for the nice lady asking "Would you like to cash out some of your chips?" I probably would have lost everything. I didn't even know how much I had won up until that moment I cashed it all out. I'm not much of a real life gambler.

    While the odds are extremely low for it to happen, it's not impossible. Improbable yes, impossible no.
    when it comes to odds everything is possible...one in a gazillion is a probability too,it PROBABLY will never ever ever happen but it CAN happen

    I'm at the more realistic side of things here...60%unit drop rate ,can not stay the same when you open a few thousand crystals in total
  • ItsDamienItsDamien Posts: 230
    DemitriM said:

    ItsDamien said:

    DemitriM said:

    ItsDamien said:

    DemitriM said:

    Advaittt said:

    I open mine one or two at a time and get units from about 60% of them

    odds to get units is 15%...

    60% unit drop rate is just a big fat lie
    Depends on the sample size. Some people get luckier than others. I imagine that they're over exaggerating, but it's not completely impossible.
    so if I open only one crystal and get units out of it,wouldnt calling it 100% be unrealistic?

    5-10-even 100 crystals arent a reliable sample size...
    Of course, but with every crystal being its own roll, its not impossible for that person to have a 60% unit rate that they've experienced. Just as much as the OP opened 52 and got none.

    I've had a real life experience where I won 7 straight times on a roulette table in a row, and if it weren't for the nice lady asking "Would you like to cash out some of your chips?" I probably would have lost everything. I didn't even know how much I had won up until that moment I cashed it all out. I'm not much of a real life gambler.

    While the odds are extremely low for it to happen, it's not impossible. Improbable yes, impossible no.
    when it comes to odds everything is possible...one in a gazillion is a probability too,it PROBABLY will never ever ever happen but it CAN happen

    I'm at the more realistic side of things here...60%unit drop rate ,can not stay the same when you open a few thousand crystals in total
    Sure, but it can also stay the same. It's highly improbable, but for some, it can happen.
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Posts: 6,918
    DemitriM said:

    ItsDamien said:

    DemitriM said:

    Advaittt said:

    I open mine one or two at a time and get units from about 60% of them

    odds to get units is 15%...

    60% unit drop rate is just a big fat lie
    Depends on the sample size. Some people get luckier than others. I imagine that they're over exaggerating, but it's not completely impossible.
    so if I open only one crystal and get units out of it,wouldnt calling it 100% be unrealistic?
    Calling the drop odds 100% from opening one crystal would be inaccurate extrapolation. But calling the drop rate from opening one crystal 100% would simply be an observation.

    This is a common problem in statistics. The probability of something happening before it happens is calculable. The probability of something happening that has already happened is always 100%. Because it happened. The past is always certain. It is only the future that can be assigned a probability, because probability is a measure of uncertainty. Colloquially we often use these terms synonymously, but that's only reasonable when we're talking about generalities. Once we start taking about technical statistical specifics, using the wrong words leads to entirely wrong places.

    The biggest mistake in statistics is when someone tries to calculate the probability of something that has already happened as if it hasn't happened yet, and that calculation makes the wrong assumptions. It is the root of problems like when someone pulls two Starlords in a row and says the odds against that happening are one in ten thousand (or so). But that makes the assumption that you were trying to pull Starlord both times randomly. The odds of pulling two specific champs in a row is about one in ten thousand (assuming about one hundred different champs). But the odds of pulling *any* champ twice is only one in a hundred. What's worse, while the odds of pulling Starlord twice in a row is one in ten thousand, the odds of pulling Spider Gwen followed by Hulkbuster is the exact same odds: one in ten thousand. The difference is that pulling SL twice is *notable* while pulling two other random champs back to back tends to be not notable.

    When we look at the past we tend to automatically filter for notability. But filtering for notability after the fact breaks the fundamentals of statistical calculation.
  • Dexman1349Dexman1349 Posts: 2,768
    I've been getting below average Unit drops lately as well. I've also had some really lucky streaks in the past as well. At the end of the day, it does seem to average out to match the advertised drop rates.
  • BigdogbobBigdogbob Posts: 70
    ItsDamien said:

    DemitriM said:

    ItsDamien said:

    DemitriM said:

    Advaittt said:

    I open mine one or two at a time and get units from about 60% of them

    odds to get units is 15%...

    60% unit drop rate is just a big fat lie
    Depends on the sample size. Some people get luckier than others. I imagine that they're over exaggerating, but it's not completely impossible.
    so if I open only one crystal and get units out of it,wouldnt calling it 100% be unrealistic?

    5-10-even 100 crystals arent a reliable sample size...
    Of course, but with every crystal being its own roll, its not impossible for that person to have a 60% unit rate that they've experienced. Just as much as the OP opened 52 and got none.

    I've had a real life experience where I won 7 straight times on a roulette table in a row, and if it weren't for the nice lady asking "Would you like to cash out some of your chips?" I probably would have lost everything. I didn't even know how much I had won up until that moment I cashed it all out. I'm not much of a real life gambler.

    While the odds are extremely low for it to happen, it's not impossible. Improbable yes, impossible no.

    You must have been betting on odds or evens or colors. That couldn’t have been individual numbers or you are one of the top 100 wealthiest people in the world now.

    Having said that, I have noticed a drop in units from arena crystals since the most recent update. I have literally received 0 units from all of the crystals I have opened since the update.
  • DemitriMDemitriM Posts: 293
    DNA3000 said:

    DemitriM said:

    ItsDamien said:

    DemitriM said:

    Advaittt said:

    I open mine one or two at a time and get units from about 60% of them

    odds to get units is 15%...

    60% unit drop rate is just a big fat lie
    Depends on the sample size. Some people get luckier than others. I imagine that they're over exaggerating, but it's not completely impossible.
    so if I open only one crystal and get units out of it,wouldnt calling it 100% be unrealistic?
    Calling the drop odds 100% from opening one crystal would be inaccurate extrapolation. But calling the drop rate from opening one crystal 100% would simply be an observation.

    This is a common problem in statistics. The probability of something happening before it happens is calculable. The probability of something happening that has already happened is always 100%. Because it happened. The past is always certain. It is only the future that can be assigned a probability, because probability is a measure of uncertainty. Colloquially we often use these terms synonymously, but that's only reasonable when we're talking about generalities. Once we start taking about technical statistical specifics, using the wrong words leads to entirely wrong places.

    The biggest mistake in statistics is when someone tries to calculate the probability of something that has already happened as if it hasn't happened yet, and that calculation makes the wrong assumptions. It is the root of problems like when someone pulls two Starlords in a row and says the odds against that happening are one in ten thousand (or so). But that makes the assumption that you were trying to pull Starlord both times randomly. The odds of pulling two specific champs in a row is about one in ten thousand (assuming about one hundred different champs). But the odds of pulling *any* champ twice is only one in a hundred. What's worse, while the odds of pulling Starlord twice in a row is one in ten thousand, the odds of pulling Spider Gwen followed by Hulkbuster is the exact same odds: one in ten thousand. The difference is that pulling SL twice is *notable* while pulling two other random champs back to back tends to be not notable.

    When we look at the past we tend to automatically filter for notability. But filtering for notability after the fact breaks the fundamentals of statistical calculation.
    I'm not a native speaker dude,I'm trying my best to explain how it works...excuse my choice of words,but my maths is solid,you cant make a statistical analysis based on just a few observations,results wouldnt be reliable
  • ItsDamienItsDamien Posts: 230
    Bigdogbob said:

    ItsDamien said:

    DemitriM said:

    ItsDamien said:

    DemitriM said:

    Advaittt said:

    I open mine one or two at a time and get units from about 60% of them

    odds to get units is 15%...

    60% unit drop rate is just a big fat lie
    Depends on the sample size. Some people get luckier than others. I imagine that they're over exaggerating, but it's not completely impossible.
    so if I open only one crystal and get units out of it,wouldnt calling it 100% be unrealistic?

    5-10-even 100 crystals arent a reliable sample size...
    Of course, but with every crystal being its own roll, its not impossible for that person to have a 60% unit rate that they've experienced. Just as much as the OP opened 52 and got none.

    I've had a real life experience where I won 7 straight times on a roulette table in a row, and if it weren't for the nice lady asking "Would you like to cash out some of your chips?" I probably would have lost everything. I didn't even know how much I had won up until that moment I cashed it all out. I'm not much of a real life gambler.

    While the odds are extremely low for it to happen, it's not impossible. Improbable yes, impossible no.

    You must have been betting on odds or evens or colors. That couldn’t have been individual numbers or you are one of the top 100 wealthiest people in the world now.

    Having said that, I have noticed a drop in units from arena crystals since the most recent update. I have literally received 0 units from all of the crystals I have opened since the update.
    It was a combination of odds, evens, colours and numbers throughout each bet, but it was a low bet table (£2 or for USD about $2.62). I can't remember the specifics, as I was totally hammered at a works Christmas party, and it was about 4am when I cashed out. Needless to say walking through London with that amount of cash at the time was daunting. When I was fired from that job 2 days later, I had more than enough to support me until I found a new job. Haven't gone back to a casino since.
  • ẞlооdẞlооd Posts: 821

    It's RNG. I've gotten 0 from 5, and 90 from 4. They come and go. Same as always.

    But have you ever gotten 225 from one? Those make my day lol
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Posts: 6,918
    DemitriM said:

    DNA3000 said:

    DemitriM said:

    ItsDamien said:

    DemitriM said:

    Advaittt said:

    I open mine one or two at a time and get units from about 60% of them

    odds to get units is 15%...

    60% unit drop rate is just a big fat lie
    Depends on the sample size. Some people get luckier than others. I imagine that they're over exaggerating, but it's not completely impossible.
    so if I open only one crystal and get units out of it,wouldnt calling it 100% be unrealistic?
    Calling the drop odds 100% from opening one crystal would be inaccurate extrapolation. But calling the drop rate from opening one crystal 100% would simply be an observation.

    This is a common problem in statistics. The probability of something happening before it happens is calculable. The probability of something happening that has already happened is always 100%. Because it happened. The past is always certain. It is only the future that can be assigned a probability, because probability is a measure of uncertainty. Colloquially we often use these terms synonymously, but that's only reasonable when we're talking about generalities. Once we start taking about technical statistical specifics, using the wrong words leads to entirely wrong places.

    The biggest mistake in statistics is when someone tries to calculate the probability of something that has already happened as if it hasn't happened yet, and that calculation makes the wrong assumptions. It is the root of problems like when someone pulls two Starlords in a row and says the odds against that happening are one in ten thousand (or so). But that makes the assumption that you were trying to pull Starlord both times randomly. The odds of pulling two specific champs in a row is about one in ten thousand (assuming about one hundred different champs). But the odds of pulling *any* champ twice is only one in a hundred. What's worse, while the odds of pulling Starlord twice in a row is one in ten thousand, the odds of pulling Spider Gwen followed by Hulkbuster is the exact same odds: one in ten thousand. The difference is that pulling SL twice is *notable* while pulling two other random champs back to back tends to be not notable.

    When we look at the past we tend to automatically filter for notability. But filtering for notability after the fact breaks the fundamentals of statistical calculation.
    I'm not a native speaker dude,I'm trying my best to explain how it works...excuse my choice of words,but my maths is solid,you cant make a statistical analysis based on just a few observations,results wouldnt be reliable
    You said: "so if I open only one crystal and get units out of it,wouldnt calling it 100% be unrealistic?" That's not a statistical analysis. That's just saying all of your drops, all one of them, were units. That's entirely accurate. I'm guessing this would be true in any language.

    If you say "I opened one and it was units, so 100% of my openings was units so about 100% of all the crystals contain units" then that would be a statistical analysis, and a horribly incorrect one, in any language.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Posts: 15,592
    Correct. You could theoretically say, "100% of MY Crystals gave Units.", but that wouldn't be a statement to all.
  • RikuremaRikurema Posts: 127
    I get about 300-1200 units from 50 uncollected arena crystals (75 if i'm really unlucky)
  • endryu said:

    I just opened 52 arena crystals and 0 units, they dont give anymore units?? Its first time i get 0 from that much units

    I've actually been getting more units lately
  • 200k BC REGULAR arena crystal opening... 370k gold and 640 units...not very good.
    I, usually, get over 500k gold and 800 units.
  • ReferenceReference Posts: 252
    I just opened an Uncollected Arena Crystal ytd and it gives 225 units.
  • SuvenduSuvendu Posts: 151
    ItsDamien said:

    DemitriM said:

    Advaittt said:

    I open mine one or two at a time and get units from about 60% of them

    odds to get units is 15%...

    60% unit drop rate is just a big fat lie
    Depends on the sample size. Some people get luckier than others. I imagine that they're over exaggerating, but it's not completely impossible.
    It depends on luck.. I opened 2 uc arena crystals in my 2nd account for gold and got 150 units only.. Thats 100% drop rate.. Well again its all depends random luck
  • Deadpool87Deadpool87 Posts: 78
    I usually pop them 10 crystals at a time. 90 % of the time I'll get at least 15 units, but there's the rare occasion I'll get 135 or more units and then the other instances I'll get all gold. Sometimes with 20 or 30 crystals in a row
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