Avengers, Assemble! "Quest for the Stones" and "Save the Battlerealm" Events are coming!

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  • DonnymeijDonnymeij Posts: 112

    Donnymeij said:

    So, let me simplify it for you guys. The rewards for Quest For The Stones in the picture are all for one week only. So do your math and multiply it by 6.

    For Save The Battlerealm, I'm not sure.
    The rewards in the picture can either be for 100% completion of all 6 paths OR for a single path clearance.
    Need @Kabam Miike to clarify this further

    So you think we can get 6x T4CC for 4path uncollected/epic quests. Seems unlikely doesn`t it. And heroic level players could get almost 6 4* in 6 weeks. Alle seems a little high for a side quest.
    Why not? At this rate 6x T4CC aren't a big deal anymore actually....at least for me, and I think it should start to be so for everyone.
    But maybe your game level and my game level are different. My alliance only plays map 5x5 and never once goes above that BUT I have 45x T4CC in the stash

    I hope I'm correct so that we all can more rewards. Otherwise, the new side quest are really not worth much of time for half of the players, I think
    @bloodyCain
    For me the rewards are just fine. I am a 480k player with a handful of r4 5 stars. But am currently playing together with my wife in a 8m alliance that just does map 2. Because I didn`t want to be forced to play like in my old map 5 alliance. This means I do not get many t4cc. So 6 catalysts for decently manageble content is great for me.
    I complete uncollected every month, but do not bother with exploration past chapter 1. But as a 'hardcore' endgame player I understand most there rewards aren`t worth it.
  • NCB_ptNCB_pt Posts: 83
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    It really sucks to put in the same or even more effort as someone else and RNG screws you over. I HATE complete RNG rewards. It sucks got the 95% of players who don't get lucky.

    RNG give me a 5* Blade 😎
    But dont give even a 4* Magic 😓
    Or a BW for The event of day 24 😂
  • The RNG spread is mad on these crystals . 5* AG to 10k gold . The drop rates are in game if u want to check . This is crazy bad . Keep it as game not a casino
  • Austin555555Austin555555 Posts: 1,589
    More problems connecting to network.
  • Mr_PlatypusMr_Platypus Posts: 1,052
    So, @Kabam Miike and co.
    Is there no 6* shards available from event quests at all next month?
  • BrainimpacterBrainimpacter Posts: 503
    drop rates for the greater last stand crystals are pathetic, dont think ill bother wasting my time just to get gold or a boost from them.
  • BowTieJohnBowTieJohn Posts: 570
    Be pretty cool if they offered a 5* Scarlet Witch for doing a Legends Run on this quest. I know it probably won't happen, but think it sounds like a cool idea.
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Posts: 7,044

    DNA3000 said:

    Mr_Holl87 said:

    @DNA3000

    @codebreaker


    Very true and I completely agree. And I know to an extent there HAS to be RNG in pretty much every game. But when progression is solely based on random luck, that's a big problem.

    That would be a problem if it were true to that extreme, but I don't think this is true. You could be a little unlucky and not pull the very best champs. You could be very unlucky and not pull any of the higher tier champs. You would have to be astronomically unlucky to not pull any champs capable of getting you through the vast majority of the content. And while there's no way to examine every single player's roster and circumstances, I have experienced too many instances of supposedly "bad pulls" ending up being useful enough that I don't believe RNG is a direct impediment to progress. It can speed you up or slow you down, in the same way that someone that grinds (or buys) more crystals can be faster or slower, but I don't think any reasonably possible bad luck would completely stop my game progress. You could slow me down or set me back, but I would still be making progress.

    If progress were in fact solely based on random luck, that would mean nothing I did and nothing I could do could have any influence on my progress. You can't control random chance. And if I were powerless to do anything to influence my progress in the game, it would be pointless for me to play the game. I don't currently feel this is true to any significant degree.
    So do you think in the end everyone more or less ends up in the same spot relative to their ingame cohorts
    No, that's not what I said. That wouldn't be true even if all randomness was eliminated from the game. What I said was that I did not believe it was true that progress is solely based on luck. There are things I do that I do specifically to improve my progress, which means progress cannot be solely based on luck, since there's nothing I can do to alter luck.

    I would say that 50% of your game progress is based on improving skill and gameplay tactics. Practicing against difficult champs, especially in non-advantageous match ups, can significantly improve a player's ability to complete content regardless of their roster. So can studying the champs and how they work. Without practice, champs like IMIW and Korg are extremely difficult to kill even with advantageous attackers. With practice, champs like IMIW and Korg can be defeated relatively easily with advantageous attackers. With enough practice, those champs can be defeated with a wide variety of attackers, sometimes basically any attacker.

    About 25% of your game progress is based on gameplay effort and efficiency. Do you sell expiring resources or let them expire? Do you open crystals during events that maximize your return on investment? Do you buy basic or featured crystals with shards, and why? What's the better return on investment? Do you do the content that has the best rewards for your progress level? Do you level up the champs that give you the best chance to progress in content, or just what someone else tells you is the best? Do you manage your resources efficiently, balancing immediate rank up needs with potential future benefits of holding resources? All those things can have a significant impact on progress. And of course, players who play for more time will progress faster than those that play less. Arena grinders have a significant advantage here.

    About 25% is luck, on average. Some players have blockbuster luck with draws, some have horrible luck with draws. But across all players, I think about a quarter of their overall progress is due to luck, or the lack of progress is due to the lack thereof.

    and a champ acquisition strategy comes with significant diminishing returns in the long run?

    I'm not 100% certain what you mean by this, but if you mean what I think you mean then I think this is the pessimistic perspective on champ acquisition. The optimistic one is that champ acquisition is front-loaded: you are more likely to benefit from champ crystals early on, for the simple reason that you don't have anything significant yet, and the more crystals you open and the larger your roster becomes, the less likely it is that future openings will help you. Relative to some hypothetical game where every opening was equally likely to benefit the player overall, this is actually better for player progress.

    Also, a game where every champion crystal opening didn't have diminishing returns over time would be unsustainable.
  • DrZolaDrZola Posts: 2,295
    edited April 22


    Hello, more T4b frags.

    Dr. Zola
  • DukeZmanDukeZman Posts: 495

    All captain Americas?

    Only OG cap, OG IM, OG Thor, OG Hulk, BW, and Hawkeye will receive the boosts
    Whelp, glad I have R4 Hulk and Hawkeye...those other paths gonna be garbage tho...
  • @Kabam Miike how do you expect me to complete a rank up event when I’ve already ranked up the champs? I’ve only got 5* avengers and I can’t open the event because I can’t clear 2*-4* first.
  • Austin555555Austin555555 Posts: 1,589
    DrZola said:



    Hello, more T4b frags.

    Dr. Zola

    I’m am hoping for a 5* awakening gem honestly.
  • Mr_PlatypusMr_Platypus Posts: 1,052
    So this is the only event this month and there’s not a 6* shard in sight.... thanks guys, you know I was really hoping to open a new 6* before I committed to my next rank up but sure, I’ll wait SIX weeks...
    Unless @Kabam Miike etc could prove me wrong...
  • TywttTywtt Posts: 1
    please kabam give us a ronin , a ebony maw or a cull obsidian
  • NCB_ptNCB_pt Posts: 83


    Kabam trolled us all 😂
  • Fred_JoeityFred_Joeity Posts: 418

    So this is the only event this month and there’s not a 6* shard in sight.... thanks guys, you know I was really hoping to open a new 6* before I committed to my next rank up but sure, I’ll wait SIX weeks...
    Unless @Kabam Miike etc could prove me wrong...

    There’s still the usual EQ...
  • Mr_PlatypusMr_Platypus Posts: 1,052

    So this is the only event this month and there’s not a 6* shard in sight.... thanks guys, you know I was really hoping to open a new 6* before I committed to my next rank up but sure, I’ll wait SIX weeks...
    Unless @Kabam Miike etc could prove me wrong...

    There’s still the usual EQ...
    If there is that’s great, I’ve just seen no mention of it and sounded like these 2 quests were replacing it
  • SlayerOfGodsSlayerOfGods Posts: 1,242
    Im just wondering what became of the Genesis, Evolution, War, Chaos, Nightmare, and Death Stones as of the last Event?
  • AlexG29AlexG29 Posts: 162
    This event sure is questionable. Anyone who doesn't have crystals stashed has no chance at getting half of the objectives complete. Having Avengers ranked up already takes shards away from you. 1 in 1000 chance to get a random awakening gem lol. Man I hope the Calendar is very giving and there is a mid month challenge because it looks like you are making this event into a Milk-fest.
  • GerbilGerbil Posts: 32
    What about Ragnarok Thor&Hulk? Do the stones do anything for them?
  • DrZolaDrZola Posts: 2,295
    DNA3000 said:

    So based on the drop rates of the greater last stand crystal, and assuming you get enough shards for 30 of these crystals (which seems to be the total of doing all the difficulties of all the events, you could get more) I calculated the statistical average return on opening thirty of these crystals. It looks like this:

    4* shards: 4500
    5* shards: 1500
    T4 Basic: 4.65
    T4CC: 2.4
    T1 Alpha: 1.8
    T5 Basic fragments: 4050
    T2 Alpha fragments: 13500
    Boosts: 0.9
    4* sig stones: 22.5
    5* sig stones: 15
    4* class awaken: 0.12
    5* class awaken: 0.03
    Gold: 135000
    Units: 45

    Note: gold and units presume that on average you get the middle value, the drop odds don't show the relative odds of getting each of the three possibilities for those types of drops. In the case of the awakening gems those numbers represent the approximate odds of getting one of them after all 30 openings. So roughly 3% chance to get one of those per player opening thirty crystals (this chance is approximate: it actually represents average return which is slightly different but close enough here).

    To be honest, considering this is a six week event, those rewards seem substantially lower than I would expect. Of course, some people will get more, but some will get less: I would expect the statistical average reward to be much higher. Even if I'm ignoring the possibility of getting last stand crystals elsewhere, that wouldn't seem to be likely to change things by more than a little, since this already factors in thirty crystal openings.

    I actually feel like I must have made an error somewhere. I wouldn't call the rewards "insulting" or anything silly like that, but they feel off.

    Hmmm...that seems very light for a month+1/2 event. Maybe they didn’t want the game to upstage the movie? :|

    Dr. Zola
  • Haji_SaabHaji_Saab Posts: 2,538
    DrZola said:

    DNA3000 said:

    So based on the drop rates of the greater last stand crystal, and assuming you get enough shards for 30 of these crystals (which seems to be the total of doing all the difficulties of all the events, you could get more) I calculated the statistical average return on opening thirty of these crystals. It looks like this:

    4* shards: 4500
    5* shards: 1500
    T4 Basic: 4.65
    T4CC: 2.4
    T1 Alpha: 1.8
    T5 Basic fragments: 4050
    T2 Alpha fragments: 13500
    Boosts: 0.9
    4* sig stones: 22.5
    5* sig stones: 15
    4* class awaken: 0.12
    5* class awaken: 0.03
    Gold: 135000
    Units: 45

    Note: gold and units presume that on average you get the middle value, the drop odds don't show the relative odds of getting each of the three possibilities for those types of drops. In the case of the awakening gems those numbers represent the approximate odds of getting one of them after all 30 openings. So roughly 3% chance to get one of those per player opening thirty crystals (this chance is approximate: it actually represents average return which is slightly different but close enough here).

    To be honest, considering this is a six week event, those rewards seem substantially lower than I would expect. Of course, some people will get more, but some will get less: I would expect the statistical average reward to be much higher. Even if I'm ignoring the possibility of getting last stand crystals elsewhere, that wouldn't seem to be likely to change things by more than a little, since this already factors in thirty crystal openings.

    I actually feel like I must have made an error somewhere. I wouldn't call the rewards "insulting" or anything silly like that, but they feel off.

    Hmmm...that seems very light for a month+1/2 event. Maybe they didn’t want the game to upstage the movie? :|

    Dr. Zola

    I am mentally ignoring these milestones. Just gonna take what comes to me by normal play. May be that was the aim when they stunted the greater crystal with that RNG.
  • BrainimpacterBrainimpacter Posts: 503
    will the stones work in the Avengers Forever quest too?
  • Kobster84Kobster84 Posts: 1,700
    DNA3000 said:

    So based on the drop rates of the greater last stand crystal, and assuming you get enough shards for 30 of these crystals (which seems to be the total of doing all the difficulties of all the events, you could get more) I calculated the statistical average return on opening thirty of these crystals. It looks like this:

    4* shards: 4500
    5* shards: 1500
    T4 Basic: 4.65
    T4CC: 2.4
    T1 Alpha: 1.8
    T5 Basic fragments: 4050
    T2 Alpha fragments: 13500
    Boosts: 0.9
    4* sig stones: 22.5
    5* sig stones: 15
    4* class awaken: 0.12
    5* class awaken: 0.03
    Gold: 135000
    Units: 45

    Note: gold and units presume that on average you get the middle value, the drop odds don't show the relative odds of getting each of the three possibilities for those types of drops. In the case of the awakening gems those numbers represent the approximate odds of getting one of them after all 30 openings. So roughly 3% chance to get one of those per player opening thirty crystals (this chance is approximate: it actually represents average return which is slightly different but close enough here).

    To be honest, considering this is a six week event, those rewards seem substantially lower than I would expect. Of course, some people will get more, but some will get less: I would expect the statistical average reward to be much higher. Even if I'm ignoring the possibility of getting last stand crystals elsewhere, that wouldn't seem to be likely to change things by more than a little, since this already factors in thirty crystal openings.

    I actually feel like I must have made an error somewhere. I wouldn't call the rewards "insulting" or anything silly like that, but they feel off.

    This seems very low wow for a 6 week event
  • FoxxFoxx Posts: 6
    https://us.v-cdn.net/6029252/uploads/editor/35/sf876wvmvjtr.png

    in this table shows some valuable items quantified only as 1 means that all items can only be won once in the 10k crystal?
  • DrZolaDrZola Posts: 2,295
    Haji_Saab said:

    DrZola said:

    DNA3000 said:

    So based on the drop rates of the greater last stand crystal, and assuming you get enough shards for 30 of these crystals (which seems to be the total of doing all the difficulties of all the events, you could get more) I calculated the statistical average return on opening thirty of these crystals. It looks like this:

    4* shards: 4500
    5* shards: 1500
    T4 Basic: 4.65
    T4CC: 2.4
    T1 Alpha: 1.8
    T5 Basic fragments: 4050
    T2 Alpha fragments: 13500
    Boosts: 0.9
    4* sig stones: 22.5
    5* sig stones: 15
    4* class awaken: 0.12
    5* class awaken: 0.03
    Gold: 135000
    Units: 45

    Note: gold and units presume that on average you get the middle value, the drop odds don't show the relative odds of getting each of the three possibilities for those types of drops. In the case of the awakening gems those numbers represent the approximate odds of getting one of them after all 30 openings. So roughly 3% chance to get one of those per player opening thirty crystals (this chance is approximate: it actually represents average return which is slightly different but close enough here).

    To be honest, considering this is a six week event, those rewards seem substantially lower than I would expect. Of course, some people will get more, but some will get less: I would expect the statistical average reward to be much higher. Even if I'm ignoring the possibility of getting last stand crystals elsewhere, that wouldn't seem to be likely to change things by more than a little, since this already factors in thirty crystal openings.

    I actually feel like I must have made an error somewhere. I wouldn't call the rewards "insulting" or anything silly like that, but they feel off.

    Hmmm...that seems very light for a month+1/2 event. Maybe they didn’t want the game to upstage the movie? :|

    Dr. Zola

    I am mentally ignoring these milestones. Just gonna take what comes to me by normal play. May be that was the aim when they stunted the greater crystal with that RNG.
    Seems like a good plan. At the end of the event, if I have a shot at more Greater LS crystals, then maybe the answer is to target specific objectives. Otherwise, it doesn’t seem worth specific effort.

    Dr. Zola
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