RnG?

AdiMukh555AdiMukh555 Posts: 756 ★★★
So are the crystals really based on RnG?
Don't think so
Reason:
-> It's almost like the game knows what we want and thus decides to give just the opposite (example of today- needed just about 24 units for another FGMC, opened about 40 arena crystals, guess what? The entire haul was nothing but gold, on the other hand, when I was low on gold and needed it, the arena crystals suddenly seemed to be wanting to give nothing but units, Bugged?

-> Opened a lesser solo crystal- 2* tech awakening gem
Opened a 3* sig stone- tech
Opened a 4* sig stone- tech
Opened a 5* sig stone-tech
Bugged?

Comments

  • LormifLormif Posts: 4,975 ★★★★★

    So are the crystals really based on RnG?
    Don't think so
    Reason:
    -> It's almost like the game knows what we want and thus decides to give just the opposite (example of today- needed just about 24 units for another FGMC, opened about 40 arena crystals, guess what? The entire haul was nothing but gold, on the other hand, when I was low on gold and needed it, the arena crystals suddenly seemed to be wanting to give nothing but units, Bugged?

    -> Opened a lesser solo crystal- 2* tech awakening gem
    Opened a 3* sig stone- tech
    Opened a 4* sig stone- tech
    Opened a 5* sig stone-tech
    Bugged?

    they have said it is a weighted RNG system. The system does know and take into account what you have for the weights, but from there it is random.. But even still with what you described is still in the realm of random.
  • AdiMukh555AdiMukh555 Posts: 756 ★★★
    Lormif said:

    So are the crystals really based on RnG?
    Don't think so
    Reason:
    -> It's almost like the game knows what we want and thus decides to give just the opposite (example of today- needed just about 24 units for another FGMC, opened about 40 arena crystals, guess what? The entire haul was nothing but gold, on the other hand, when I was low on gold and needed it, the arena crystals suddenly seemed to be wanting to give nothing but units, Bugged?

    -> Opened a lesser solo crystal- 2* tech awakening gem
    Opened a 3* sig stone- tech
    Opened a 4* sig stone- tech
    Opened a 5* sig stone-tech
    Bugged?

    they have said it is a weighted RNG system. The system does know and take into account what you have for the weights, but from there it is random.. But even still with what you described is still in the realm of random.
    How's that fair by any means?
  • LainuaLainua Posts: 736 ★★★
    edited April 2019
    It happened to me all the time.

    I think it’s easy to design a system that give players what they don’t want to force them buy more. That’s a secret they will never admit.

    I don’t buy RNG. Or it’s a rigged RNG. Easy to do it. Easy to design a system that pop up unpopular champs more times than popular champs. That’s why there is a big chance that we pull something bad.
  • MjolinarMjolinar Posts: 153 ★★
    Lormif said:

    So are the crystals really based on RnG?
    Don't think so
    Reason:
    -> It's almost like the game knows what we want and thus decides to give just the opposite (example of today- needed just about 24 units for another FGMC, opened about 40 arena crystals, guess what? The entire haul was nothing but gold, on the other hand, when I was low on gold and needed it, the arena crystals suddenly seemed to be wanting to give nothing but units, Bugged?

    -> Opened a lesser solo crystal- 2* tech awakening gem
    Opened a 3* sig stone- tech
    Opened a 4* sig stone- tech
    Opened a 5* sig stone-tech
    Bugged?

    they have said it is a weighted RNG system. The system does know and take into account what you have for the weights, but from there it is random.. But even still with what you described is still in the realm of random.
    Where did they say that?
  • LainuaLainua Posts: 736 ★★★
    edited April 2019
    For example I think they have designed a system that recognizes what do you have already and there is higher chance that the system will reward you the same thing. Or a thing that you just can’t use. Got an unduped mutant champ? So it will give you an awakening gem for tech class. Needs 1 more mutant, tech, cosmic, skill or mystic tier 4 class catalyst? Anything but science. Then here you go, a science class catalyst.

    It’s designed as such. And easy to do so.
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Posts: 8,399 ★★★★★

    So are the crystals really based on RnG?
    Don't think so
    Reason:
    -> It's almost like the game knows what we want and thus decides to give just the opposite (example of today- needed just about 24 units for another FGMC, opened about 40 arena crystals, guess what? The entire haul was nothing but gold, on the other hand, when I was low on gold and needed it, the arena crystals suddenly seemed to be wanting to give nothing but units, Bugged?

    -> Opened a lesser solo crystal- 2* tech awakening gem
    Opened a 3* sig stone- tech
    Opened a 4* sig stone- tech
    Opened a 5* sig stone-tech
    Bugged?

    Flip a coin 5 times. If you get heads 3 times in a row, that's still random. Just because you get the same class a bunch, doesn't mean its not random.
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Posts: 8,399 ★★★★★
    Lormif said:

    So are the crystals really based on RnG?
    Don't think so
    Reason:
    -> It's almost like the game knows what we want and thus decides to give just the opposite (example of today- needed just about 24 units for another FGMC, opened about 40 arena crystals, guess what? The entire haul was nothing but gold, on the other hand, when I was low on gold and needed it, the arena crystals suddenly seemed to be wanting to give nothing but units, Bugged?

    -> Opened a lesser solo crystal- 2* tech awakening gem
    Opened a 3* sig stone- tech
    Opened a 4* sig stone- tech
    Opened a 5* sig stone-tech
    Bugged?

    they have said it is a weighted RNG system. The system does know and take into account what you have for the weights, but from there it is random.. But even still with what you described is still in the realm of random.
    I don't remember them ever saying that.
  • DrZolaDrZola Posts: 3,285 ★★★★★
    Lormif said:

    So are the crystals really based on RnG?
    Don't think so
    Reason:
    -> It's almost like the game knows what we want and thus decides to give just the opposite (example of today- needed just about 24 units for another FGMC, opened about 40 arena crystals, guess what? The entire haul was nothing but gold, on the other hand, when I was low on gold and needed it, the arena crystals suddenly seemed to be wanting to give nothing but units, Bugged?

    -> Opened a lesser solo crystal- 2* tech awakening gem
    Opened a 3* sig stone- tech
    Opened a 4* sig stone- tech
    Opened a 5* sig stone-tech
    Bugged?

    they have said it is a weighted RNG system. The system does know and take into account what you have for the weights, but from there it is random.. But even still with what you described is still in the realm of random.
    I am almost certain they’ve never said the system is weighted.

    It is pRNG, which emulates randomness. There may be issues with the implementation (such as seed refresh frequency), but I’m confident it works like most pRNG systems in mobile gaming that don’t weight outcomes.

    Dr. Zola
  • LainuaLainua Posts: 736 ★★★
    edited April 2019
    For years people has kept talking about RNG. It’s naive and hilarious. Nothing is random in a billion dollar industry. You can simply raise percentages of popping up unpopular choices and the picture will become totally different. One percentage in favor of the company means hundreds millions dollars revenue.

  • WayntosWayntos Posts: 392
    or you bust you butt and grind for a 4* SS and get him rank him up ...then next 5* crystal you pop a 5* SS you got Kabammmmed!! Totally random lol ....still love my Symbiote Supreme!
  • LormifLormif Posts: 4,975 ★★★★★
    There was a post many years ago that the crystals take in, or are able to take into account what you already have. I am not talking about the hero crystals. But it could have been something else.
  • MjolinarMjolinar Posts: 153 ★★
    There was a post regarding a patent that kabam held but holding a patent means nothing. Party line has always been crystals are purely RNG and weighted the same for everyone.
  • Liss_Bliss_Liss_Bliss_ Posts: 1,236 ★★★★
    It always amuses me when RNG posts are made. Why? Because people always claim rigged/bugged/not true RNG when they get something they don't want/need. But never the flip side of things when they get the champ they want or the AG they want.
  • Kabam LyraKabam Lyra Posts: 2,879 ★★★
    Lainua said:

    For example I think they have designed a system that recognizes what do you have already and there is higher chance that the system will reward you the same thing. Or a thing that you just can’t use. Got an unduped mutant champ? So it will give you an awakening gem for tech class. Needs 1 more mutant, tech, cosmic, skill or mystic tier 4 class catalyst? Anything but science. Then here you go, a science class catalyst.

    It’s designed as such. And easy to do so.

    This isn't true. Drops are random and are not affected by what you have in your inventory already.
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