Don't trade in Quest crystals!

flygamerflygamer Posts: 182
edited August 13 in General Discussion
Just a warning for all, it's another swing and miss by kabam. I got 2 3000 ISO in the large trade crystal. If I had opened all 100 small ones and got just 75 ISO each, the smallest of them, I would have been better off. I hope others have better luck, but I would just open them individually. Plus you get more (albeit small) weekly summoner points. I know its not a huge deal, but its like Kabam saying "I will give you this shiny new nickel for one of your old quarters"!
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  • WardenZeroWardenZero Posts: 402 ★★★
    You’re lucky. I got two iso-8.
  • flygamerflygamer Posts: 182

    Like... That's the point and it was pretty clear from them literally explaining what those crystals can drop in their in game message.

    "Buyers beware - this product is exactly as advertised!"

    It's meant to be somewhat of a trash compactor with the chance for big amounts of iso/units on the upper end and us not having to open 100 crystals for silly small bits of iso on the lower end.

    Ahhh ok, so to you a 20-50% loss from norm is one of those "working as intended" moments.
  • JRock808JRock808 Posts: 1,149 ★★★★
    It takes no time to open 10x10 and is much less subject to the perils of "RNG".

    These big batch deals are almost never worth it.
  • UmbertoDelRioUmbertoDelRio Posts: 1,777 ★★★★
    flygamer said:

    Like... That's the point and it was pretty clear from them literally explaining what those crystals can drop in their in game message.

    "Buyers beware - this product is exactly as advertised!"

    It's meant to be somewhat of a trash compactor with the chance for big amounts of iso/units on the upper end and us not having to open 100 crystals for silly small bits of iso on the lower end.

    Ahhh ok, so to you a 20-50% loss from norm is one of those "working as intended" moments.
    Why, yes. And they literally told us what "working as intended" means regarding these crystals in the in game message.

    What exactly are you stumbling over here?

    Those crystals were never advertised as and therefore quite obviously never supposed to be nessecarily better than just opening 100 mission crystals.

    Maybe you need some sleep?
  • CassyCassy Posts: 579
    edited August 13
    I never open Missions crystals. Why should i?
    The SA points mean almost nothing.
    It Take too much time to open and then again sell them which gives miserabel low amounts of Gold.

    I dont need Generic ISO. I sell all of it. For rank ups i Take class iso
    So i could clear my crystal stash and got a chance to some units quickly. They should advertise those crystals every year.
  • SnizzbarSnizzbar Posts: 1,158 ★★★★
    edited August 13

    flygamer said:

    Like... That's the point and it was pretty clear from them literally explaining what those crystals can drop in their in game message.

    "Buyers beware - this product is exactly as advertised!"

    It's meant to be somewhat of a trash compactor with the chance for big amounts of iso/units on the upper end and us not having to open 100 crystals for silly small bits of iso on the lower end.

    Ahhh ok, so to you a 20-50% loss from norm is one of those "working as intended" moments.
    Those crystals were never advertised as and therefore quite obviously never supposed to be nessecarily better than just opening 100 mission crystals
    They also weren't advertised as having worse rewards either
  • UmbertoDelRioUmbertoDelRio Posts: 1,777 ★★★★
    Snizzbar said:

    flygamer said:

    Like... That's the point and it was pretty clear from them literally explaining what those crystals can drop in their in game message.

    "Buyers beware - this product is exactly as advertised!"

    It's meant to be somewhat of a trash compactor with the chance for big amounts of iso/units on the upper end and us not having to open 100 crystals for silly small bits of iso on the lower end.

    Ahhh ok, so to you a 20-50% loss from norm is one of those "working as intended" moments.
    Those crystals were never advertised as and therefore quite obviously never supposed to be nessecarily better than just opening 100 mission crystals
    They also weren't advertised as having worse rewards either
    They were literally advertised as what they contain. Finding out whether that's better or not is simple math.

    Did you feel like you just turned the tables with your comment? lol
  • UmbertoDelRioUmbertoDelRio Posts: 1,777 ★★★★
    Snizzbar said:

    flygamer said:

    Like... That's the point and it was pretty clear from them literally explaining what those crystals can drop in their in game message.

    "Buyers beware - this product is exactly as advertised!"

    It's meant to be somewhat of a trash compactor with the chance for big amounts of iso/units on the upper end and us not having to open 100 crystals for silly small bits of iso on the lower end.

    Ahhh ok, so to you a 20-50% loss from norm is one of those "working as intended" moments.
    Those crystals were never advertised as and therefore quite obviously never supposed to be nessecarily better than just opening 100 mission crystals
    They also weren't advertised as having worse rewards either
    And that's solely the in game message announcing those crystals weeks ago lol.

    We just got a message when they arrived telling us exactly what's inside. What is wrong with you people lol?
  • crogscrogs Posts: 268
    flygamer said:

    Like... That's the point and it was pretty clear from them literally explaining what those crystals can drop in their in game message.

    "Buyers beware - this product is exactly as advertised!"

    It's meant to be somewhat of a trash compactor with the chance for big amounts of iso/units on the upper end and us not having to open 100 crystals for silly small bits of iso on the lower end.

    Ahhh ok, so to you a 20-50% loss from norm is one of those "working as intended" moments.
    Considering I haven't opened a quest crystal in almost 3yrs, I'm happy to roll the dice for a shot at some good units and full refills instead of having to sell thousands of 75 iso. I already sell a ton from the stash. Lvl 1 iso is like having a jar full of pennies to pay for a $10 item. Have fun counting.
  • SnizzbarSnizzbar Posts: 1,158 ★★★★
    edited August 13

    Snizzbar said:

    flygamer said:

    Like... That's the point and it was pretty clear from them literally explaining what those crystals can drop in their in game message.

    "Buyers beware - this product is exactly as advertised!"

    It's meant to be somewhat of a trash compactor with the chance for big amounts of iso/units on the upper end and us not having to open 100 crystals for silly small bits of iso on the lower end.

    Ahhh ok, so to you a 20-50% loss from norm is one of those "working as intended" moments.
    Those crystals were never advertised as and therefore quite obviously never supposed to be nessecarily better than just opening 100 mission crystals
    They also weren't advertised as having worse rewards either
    And that's solely the in game message announcing those crystals weeks ago lol.

    We just got a message when they arrived telling us exactly what's inside. What is wrong with you people lol?
    I would think this is pretty clear - it says 'equal value' after all...
  • UmbertoDelRioUmbertoDelRio Posts: 1,777 ★★★★
    Snizzbar said:


    Snizzbar said:

    flygamer said:

    Like... That's the point and it was pretty clear from them literally explaining what those crystals can drop in their in game message.

    "Buyers beware - this product is exactly as advertised!"

    It's meant to be somewhat of a trash compactor with the chance for big amounts of iso/units on the upper end and us not having to open 100 crystals for silly small bits of iso on the lower end.

    Ahhh ok, so to you a 20-50% loss from norm is one of those "working as intended" moments.
    Those crystals were never advertised as and therefore quite obviously never supposed to be nessecarily better than just opening 100 mission crystals
    They also weren't advertised as having worse rewards either
    And that's solely the in game message announcing those crystals weeks ago lol.

    We just got a message when they arrived telling us exactly what's inside. What is wrong with you people lol?
    I would think this is pretty clear - even for people like you...
    Wow buddy, take a break, the tables are getting sick from getting turned that much by your flawless argumentation.
  • UmbertoDelRioUmbertoDelRio Posts: 1,777 ★★★★
    Thanks for the screenshot of the in game message telling us exactly what's inside the crystal, though lol.

    Quod erat demonstrandum.
  • BrainimpacterBrainimpacter Posts: 567 ★★★
    I traded in 1500 for 15 crystals, got 500 units, 11 energy refills and 47 3k ISO, happy days.
  • SnizzbarSnizzbar Posts: 1,158 ★★★★
    Exactly. We agree then.
    Equal value. Q.E.D.
  • UmbertoDelRioUmbertoDelRio Posts: 1,777 ★★★★
    Snizzbar said:

    Exactly. We agree then.
    Equal value. Q.E.D.

    It says "comparable rewards" not "equal value" lol.

    Could you at least try?
  • BrainimpacterBrainimpacter Posts: 567 ★★★
    dont ask me how i got 11 refills i dont know but i can prove it.


  • flygamerflygamer Posts: 182
    edited August 13

    Snizzbar said:

    Exactly. We agree then.
    Equal value. Q.E.D.

    It says "comparable rewards" not "equal value" lol.

    Could you at least try?
    If you send me a $100, I promise to send you something "comparable".
  • flygamerflygamer Posts: 182
    edited August 13
    That is my issue, 20-50% less, to me, is not comparable.
  • UmbertoDelRioUmbertoDelRio Posts: 1,777 ★★★★
    flygamer said:

    Snizzbar said:

    Exactly. We agree then.
    Equal value. Q.E.D.

    It says "comparable rewards" not "equal value" lol.

    Could you at least try?
    If you send me a $100, I promise to send you something comparable.
    Your analogy is lacking and you still don't understand why, which is hilarious.

    They told us exactly what those crystals contain. It wasn't a mystery package that was advertised as having a better value.

    Please tell me you're just really really tired.
  • UmbertoDelRioUmbertoDelRio Posts: 1,777 ★★★★
    edited August 13
    flygamer said:

    That is my issue, 20-50% less, to me, is not comparable.

    Even if they told us those crystals had 100× the value of 100 mission crystals in their announcement message weeks ago, they still would have told us exactly what's inside them when those crystals came out.

    They could have told you there's a brand new sports car inside, and you still would have been in the wrong for ignoring the only actual valuable non marketing information they gave us lol.

    How is this even a thread?
  • SnizzbarSnizzbar Posts: 1,158 ★★★★

    Snizzbar said:

    Exactly. We agree then.
    Equal value. Q.E.D.

    It says "comparable rewards" not "equal value" lol.

    Could you at least try?
    Um, try reading? I just don't know how to help you understand any more than I already have.
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Posts: 7,940 Guardian
    flygamer said:

    Like... That's the point and it was pretty clear from them literally explaining what those crystals can drop in their in game message.

    "Buyers beware - this product is exactly as advertised!"

    It's meant to be somewhat of a trash compactor with the chance for big amounts of iso/units on the upper end and us not having to open 100 crystals for silly small bits of iso on the lower end.

    Ahhh ok, so to you a 20-50% loss from norm is one of those "working as intended" moments.
    If I wasn't prepared to see random variation in a random reward, I wouldn't 100 small crystals for one big one. You didn't experience 50% loss, you experienced random variation. Especially since you have a data set of one single pull. You're complaining about flipping a coin once and getting 50% fewer heads than you expected.
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Posts: 7,940 Guardian
    crogs said:

    flygamer said:

    Like... That's the point and it was pretty clear from them literally explaining what those crystals can drop in their in game message.

    "Buyers beware - this product is exactly as advertised!"

    It's meant to be somewhat of a trash compactor with the chance for big amounts of iso/units on the upper end and us not having to open 100 crystals for silly small bits of iso on the lower end.

    Ahhh ok, so to you a 20-50% loss from norm is one of those "working as intended" moments.
    Considering I haven't opened a quest crystal in almost 3yrs, I'm happy to roll the dice for a shot at some good units and full refills instead of having to sell thousands of 75 iso. I already sell a ton from the stash. Lvl 1 iso is like having a jar full of pennies to pay for a $10 item. Have fun counting.
    Quest crystals are something I only open if I really, really need the stuff inside, and that's kind of rare. When I do open them I often get a blizzard of stuff in overflow. I traded mine in with no intent of opening even the big ones: I would rather have a few big ones that I can accumulate over time, and if I choose to open them I won't have to deal with so much other stuff in the overflow stash. I kind of wish they keep they trade open forever, because if they did I would keep compacting mine indefinitely.
  • UmbertoDelRioUmbertoDelRio Posts: 1,777 ★★★★
    Snizzbar said:

    Snizzbar said:

    Exactly. We agree then.
    Equal value. Q.E.D.

    It says "comparable rewards" not "equal value" lol.

    Could you at least try?
    Um, try reading? I just don't know how to help you understand any more than I already have.
    Try reading what, though? My whole point here is that it was clear to all of us what's inside those crystals, which leads to everyone being able to individually deduce, whether those crystals are worth it or not.

    I never said those crystals were better than or equal to 100 crystals and neither did kabam. Your screenshot has proven that for me lol.

    So what's your point, buddy?
  • UmbertoDelRioUmbertoDelRio Posts: 1,777 ★★★★

    -"so do you want 100 crystals or trade it in for the box?"
    - "I'll take the box!"
    - "great! now let's see what's in the box!"


    They literally told us what's in the box, though.

  • Darkness275Darkness275 Posts: 244 ★★
    Meh, for me the crystals are a novelty - I don't ever really open Questing crystals anyway, hence having over 2k stashed up.

    Opening one got me ten full energy. I know not all of them will give me that but that's a lot better than opening 100 regular crystals. Do I know that I have better odds at units and energy with the regular crystals? Yeah... that's just a matter of statistics and sheer numbers, I obviously have a better chance at pulling the 1% drop rate out of 2k crystals compared to 1% drop rate out of 20... but I'll build back up to 2k questing crystals, who knows if this trade in will return, so why not gamble for the mega prize considering I don't open the lesser crystals anyway?

    No lost SA points either, so that's nice.
  • SnizzbarSnizzbar Posts: 1,158 ★★★★



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