Champion Spotlight - Black Widow (Claire Voyant)

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  • RotellyRotelly Posts: 538 ★★★

    Rotelly said:

    I think there is an issue with her nullify against unstoppable buffs, even after she nullifies unstoppable the opponent with a light or medium hit the opponent is able to counter as if he is still unstoppable

    I saw this as well. Cap Beardo nullified and doesn't get hit, why does Claire?
    @Kabam Miike any update on why Claire gets countered after nullifying unstoppable?
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  • RotellyRotelly Posts: 538 ★★★
    Anything new on Claire gets countered after nullifying unstoppable?
  • edited September 2019
    Rotelly said:

    I have a question: i fought her in the side quest (epic and master) and she was able to apply 3 debuffs with her SP1 even if i dexed or blocked it. Not a big problem because the damage is so low that Willpower actually healed me, but i would still like to know if she is working as intended... i really hope so :)

    thanks in advance for the reply ^_^

    Her SP1 and Heavy Attack will apply the Debuffs whenever they are activated, even if they don't hit. Her Medium Attacks will need to actually hit the opponent to apply the Debuff though.
    Are her debuffs based on her attack or do they scale with buffs?
    The damaging from the damaging Debuffs in her kit will scale with changes to her attack.
  • RotellyRotelly Posts: 538 ★★★

    Rotelly said:

    I have a question: i fought her in the side quest (epic and master) and she was able to apply 3 debuffs with her SP1 even if i dexed or blocked it. Not a big problem because the damage is so low that Willpower actually healed me, but i would still like to know if she is working as intended... i really hope so :)

    thanks in advance for the reply ^_^

    Her SP1 and Heavy Attack will apply the Debuffs whenever they are activated, even if they don't hit. Her Medium Attacks will need to actually hit the opponent to apply the Debuff though.
    Are her debuffs based on her attack or do they scale with buffs?
    The damaging from the damaging Debuffs in her kit will scale with changes to her attack.
    Thank you, any update on her interaction with nullify and unstoppable being countered?
  • RagamugginGunnerRagamugginGunner Posts: 2,210 ★★★★★
    The unstoppable interaction needs to be addressed.
  • RotellyRotelly Posts: 538 ★★★
    Jestress said:

    So, parry + heavy and just stack bleeds. Seems innovative.

    The real value of the bleed is against immune champs, nom-immune champs it is a trivial amount of damage
  • RotellyRotelly Posts: 538 ★★★
    @Kabam Zibiit any info on her interaction with unstoppable buffs when nullifying?
  • RotellyRotelly Posts: 538 ★★★
    Lol, my question asking about an update was deleted
  • Rotelly said:

    I think there is an issue with her nullify against unstoppable buffs, even after she nullifies unstoppable the opponent with a light or medium hit the opponent is able to counter as if he is still unstoppable

    I checked with out team and was able to find some info on this. The intention of Claire's Nullify ability is to Nullify an effect the Opponent would gain after Claire lands an attack. EG: Fury granted when struck.

    She is not supposed to have the ability to safely remove Unstoppable Buffs if they are already preexisting; her loop is more about putting on Buff Immunity to prevent Buffs to begin with. Immediately removing Unstoppable safely is a powerful mechanic and not one that Claire is intended to have. Given the feedback we've received about this, we are going to be working on updating the description of this ability to be more clear about how this ability is intended to work and that it works differently from Champions who are intended to be able to remove an existing Unstoppable Buff safely.
  • RotellyRotelly Posts: 538 ★★★

    Rotelly said:

    I think there is an issue with her nullify against unstoppable buffs, even after she nullifies unstoppable the opponent with a light or medium hit the opponent is able to counter as if he is still unstoppable

    I checked with out team and was able to find some info on this. The intention of Claire's Nullify ability is to Nullify an effect the Opponent would gain after Claire lands an attack. EG: Fury granted when struck.

    She is not supposed to have the ability to safely remove Unstoppable Buffs if they are already preexisting; her loop is more about putting on Buff Immunity to prevent Buffs to begin with. Immediately removing Unstoppable safely is a powerful mechanic and not one that Claire is intended to have. Given the feedback we've received about this, we are going to be working on updating the description of this ability to be more clear about how this ability is intended to work and that it works differently from Champions who are intended to be able to remove an existing Unstoppable Buff safely.
    Does that mean her nullify on contact is meant to prevent buffs from procing rather than remove them?
  • RagamugginGunnerRagamugginGunner Posts: 2,210 ★★★★★
    How can she nullify the buff but they still get the benefits from that buff?
  • FhfjghhggggjfhfjgFhfjghhggggjfhfjg Posts: 4,492 ★★★★★
    Does buff immunity work on thing?
  • GagoHGagoH Posts: 1,150 ★★★
    Should I take Claire to 5/50 over a Scarlet Witch (sig 50)?
  • Mathking13Mathking13 Posts: 877 ★★★

    Does buff immunity work on thing?

    It won't work on his Passive Fury effects, but it will work on his Unstoppable and Unblockable buffs.
  • wizz1ewizz1e Posts: 4
    edited October 2019
    This may be the most laughable explanation I've seen yet. It requires a rework of the description as well.

    My question is this, will you be modifying her description only, or will you be modifying her abilities now? I am comfortable using her as-is and understand how to use her current nullify abilities with unstoppable buffs, not too difficult to comprehend that aspect of her. I simply want to know if this investment of my personal time is not for naught.
  • CoatHang3rCoatHang3r Posts: 4,133 ★★★★★

    How can she nullify the buff but they still get the benefits from that buff?

    This is due to “hit stun”. When you hit an opponent they are prevented from taking action for x seconds. Unstoppable prevents this hit stun, it’s “hit stun immunity”. Since Claire technically hits while the opponent has “hit stun” immunity Which then nullifies the unstoppable they can take immediate action and retaliate because they were under the effects of “hit stun immunity” for the hit.

  • ArdnahcArdnahc Posts: 1
    Should I max MD? Currenly I run both suicide and assasins. If I max MD, then I must remove assasins. Tell me what you think guys.. Thanks
  • KDSuperFlash10KDSuperFlash10 Posts: 4,363 ★★★★★
    It's so funny seeing all these comments by people saying that she was gonna be "just another mystic dud". Oh how the times change...
  • Kill_GreyKill_Grey Posts: 5,273 ★★★★★

    It's so funny seeing all these comments by people saying that she was gonna be "just another mystic dud". Oh how the times change...

    Yeah lol, just wanted to see if I would find any tips on her since I just got her from a dual class crystal!
  • Kill_GreyKill_Grey Posts: 5,273 ★★★★★
    And by the way... why doesn't her SP 2 energy damage in curse of hellfire scale with attack modifications?
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