Question about Masochism

StellarStellar Member Posts: 1,128 ★★★★
in Strategy and Tips
Hello,

I would like some clarification about the mechanics of the Masochism node.

As i understand it, each time the opponent has a debuff, it is cancelled and it heal a percentage of its health. Masochism goes into cool down for 7 seconds

So if Void put a debuff it is immediately cancelled but other debuff arriving during the cool down stay.

There are some fights on node 26 where if you have one debuff of intimidating presence (let's say petrify but it the same with the two others) put on the opponent, if the second petrify arrives with the masochism ready, it cancelled all the petrify debuff instead of of cancelling only the arriving one !

The same happen when fighting King groot and it cancel a debuff with its fury. it cancel all the debuff of the same type instead of only cancelling the arriving one !

Is the Masochism node, and any debuff cancelling effect, is supposed to work like this or is this a bug ?

Oh and the cancelling of all same debuff is not automatic ! some time only the arriving one is cancelled. i even had intimidating debuff cancelled but the Fear of the void did come without problem even if the 6 intimidating debuff were not here... little bit weird and not logic at all

Comments

  • ArylAryl Member Posts: 1,302 ★★★★
    Yes. It has always worked like this.
  • ChampioncriticChampioncritic Member Posts: 3,347 ★★★★
    Aryl said:

    Yes. It has always worked like this.

    what the OP meant was like lets say the opponent already has an active petrify on him. If void happens to inflict another petrify and its removed by masochism, both the new petrify and the old petrify is removed together. In this situation it should not work like this i believe.
  • ArylAryl Member Posts: 1,302 ★★★★
    Championcritic said:

    Aryl said:

    Yes. It has always worked like this.

    what the OP meant was like lets say the opponent already has an active petrify on him. If void happens to inflict another petrify and its removed by masochism, both the new petrify and the old petrify is removed together. In this situation it should not work like this i believe.
    It does. Take, for instance, Corvus:

    Let's say you armor break in between the timer and then armor break and activate masochism. Both breaks will be removed.

    If you armor break someone like HTD or RS, all the armor breaks will be removed if masochism triggers.

    It removes 1 debuff not 1 stack.
  • StellarStellar Member Posts: 1,128 ★★★★
    Championcritic said:

    Aryl said:

    Yes. It has always worked like this.

    what the OP meant was like lets say the opponent already has an active petrify on him. If void happens to inflict another petrify and its removed by masochism, both the new petrify and the old petrify is removed together. In this situation it should not work like this i believe.
    Yes thats the problem
  • StellarStellar Member Posts: 1,128 ★★★★
    Could @Kabam Miike or any other @kabamguy confirm the real mechanics of masochism and anti-debuff abilities concerning stack of debuff please ?
  • ArylAryl Member Posts: 1,302 ★★★★
    @Stellar

    The node is working ad intended. The whole debuff is remove as stated in the node description:


  • gforcefangforcefan Member Posts: 407 ★★★
    Huh? The node only says the *next* debuff. Nowhere does it say that it will remove prior debuffs, even if they are the same.
  • ArylAryl Member Posts: 1,302 ★★★★
    gforcefan said:

    Huh? The node only says the *next* debuff. Nowhere does it say that it will remove prior debuffs, even if they are the same.

    A debuff is a debuff regardless of how many stacks are applied.
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