Ghost rider needs fixing

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  • LormifLormif Member Posts: 7,369 ★★★★★
    Baboss187 said:

    I didn't expect this uproar, I was just putting my thoughts forward and I got corrected with the first comment and left it be.
    If I was a champ made of blood would u expect to be bleed immune? YES! So GR is on fire so why can't he be immune to incineration? Simple logic guys, don't need anything else other than simple logic.

    If it was normal fire sure, maybe that could be logical, but this is mystical fire, it does not necessarily make him immune to all other forms of fire.
  • Baboss187Baboss187 Member Posts: 140
    Lormif said:

    Baboss187 said:

    I didn't expect this uproar, I was just putting my thoughts forward and I got corrected with the first comment and left it be.
    If I was a champ made of blood would u expect to be bleed immune? YES! So GR is on fire so why can't he be immune to incineration? Simple logic guys, don't need anything else other than simple logic.

    If it was normal fire sure, maybe that could be logical, but this is mystical fire, it does not necessarily make him immune to all other forms of fire.
    Problem is the game doesn't specify the different types of fire so as far as we're concerned there's only one type of incineration, sort of like frostbite.

    I'm not truly bothered by it, just thought I'd question it.
  • kfd2010kfd2010 Member Posts: 423 ★★
    I'm not the biggest fan of GR

    He really needs a bunch of stuff to be reliable. He needs the synergy with Blade to guarantee those curses. There's nothing more annoying then having to try something three or four times before getting your curse. Honestly, that should just be a feature of him in today's state, not part of a synergy.

    Then he needs to be awakened to get the Fury. And really, that's the only time his damage feels like anything. (I'll try to save the fury/bleed for later in my curse rotation for a longer run with it.) And I'm a fan of champs who feel like the can do some damage. He's not one of them.

    He's got strong regen and good utility (again, with the synergy to guarantee it), but I'd much rather reach for a bunch of other champs first.
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  • Baboss187Baboss187 Member Posts: 140
    kfd2010 said:

    I'm not the biggest fan of GR

    He really needs a bunch of stuff to be reliable. He needs the synergy with Blade to guarantee those curses. There's nothing more annoying then having to try something three or four times before getting your curse. Honestly, that should just be a feature of him in today's state, not part of a synergy.

    Then he needs to be awakened to get the Fury. And really, that's the only time his damage feels like anything. (I'll try to save the fury/bleed for later in my curse rotation for a longer run with it.) And I'm a fan of champs who feel like the can do some damage. He's not one of them.

    He's got strong regen and good utility (again, with the synergy to guarantee it), but I'd much rather reach for a bunch of other champs first.

    Sort of agree with the damage output. I have 5* r 4/5 not duped and I do map 5. Mini Morningstar I get to about 35% on the last day before I finish her of the second go so the damage isn't too bad and that's without synergy but mystic champs aren't known for power.
  • XxLoganTDCxXXxLoganTDCxX Member Posts: 2,561 ★★★★
    _ASDF_ said:

    You are wrong. He isn't made of fire.
    In fact, he doesnt even have any fire on his body. That is energy, or magic. Is not fire, and even if it was he could still be incinerated and take damage.

    Just
    READ
    THE
    ABILITIES.

    Do you see anywhere that he is.immune to incinerate? No, right? Well there is your answer. He should not be immune due to not have that ability.
    Just dont go ahead and make up abilities that do not exist

    Fire is energy. 🤦‍♂️
    Thermal Energy to be specifc
  • Eb0ny-O-M4wEb0ny-O-M4w Member Posts: 14,099 ★★★★★
    Baboss187 said:


    If I was a champ made of blood would u expect to be bleed immune?.

    Well, no. You have bleed, that's the point. Unless somehow you had an ability that would deny it.
    Baboss187 said:


    So GR is on fire so why can't he be immune to incineration?

    He isn't on fire. You can read his abilities that it doesn't say anything like that.
    Models and visuals are irrelevant here, abilities are basically everything that matters.
    Baboss187 said:


    Simple logic guys, don't need anything else other than simple logic.

    It's a fictional universe. Logic is whatever the creators of it want it to be.
    Logically you can't apply real world logic here
  • Baboss187Baboss187 Member Posts: 140

    Baboss187 said:


    If I was a champ made of blood would u expect to be bleed immune?.

    Well, no. You have bleed, that's the point. Unless somehow you had an ability that would deny it.
    Baboss187 said:


    So GR is on fire so why can't he be immune to incineration?

    He isn't on fire. You can read his abilities that it doesn't say anything like that.
    Models and visuals are irrelevant here, abilities are basically everything that matters.
    Baboss187 said:


    Simple logic guys, don't need anything else other than simple logic.

    It's a fictional universe. Logic is whatever the creators of it want it to be.
    Logically you can't apply real world logic here
    Mate lol if ur made of blood (dripping like saliva from venoms mouth)then u can’t die from bleeding out therefor u are bleed immune, simple. It’s like saying iceman can be frozen to death hahaha no creator would be stupid enough to to do that.

    I get it, it’s not written on abilities but that doesn’t make it right.
  • WoogieboogieWoogieboogie Member Posts: 340 ★★
    1488 brother
  • Eb0ny-O-M4wEb0ny-O-M4w Member Posts: 14,099 ★★★★★
    Baboss187 said:

    Baboss187 said:


    If I was a champ made of blood would u expect to be bleed immune?.

    Well, no. You have bleed, that's the point. Unless somehow you had an ability that would deny it.
    Baboss187 said:


    So GR is on fire so why can't he be immune to incineration?

    He isn't on fire. You can read his abilities that it doesn't say anything like that.
    Models and visuals are irrelevant here, abilities are basically everything that matters.
    Baboss187 said:


    Simple logic guys, don't need anything else other than simple logic.

    It's a fictional universe. Logic is whatever the creators of it want it to be.
    Logically you can't apply real world logic here
    Mate lol if ur made of blood (dripping like saliva from venoms mouth)then u can’t die from bleeding out therefor u are bleed immune, simple. It’s like saying iceman can be frozen to death hahaha no creator would be stupid enough to to do that.

    I get it, it’s not written on abilities but that doesn’t make it right.
    Humans have blood. Technically they are made of blood. They can bleed out.
    Just like a ice creature can get colder and freezze to death, and just like a fire creature can get burned to death at even higher temperatures.
    This is not weird or anything. It really is basic, common, cliche in fictiinal universes and stories
  • Baboss187Baboss187 Member Posts: 140

    Baboss187 said:

    Baboss187 said:


    If I was a champ made of blood would u expect to be bleed immune?.

    Well, no. You have bleed, that's the point. Unless somehow you had an ability that would deny it.
    Baboss187 said:


    So GR is on fire so why can't he be immune to incineration?

    He isn't on fire. You can read his abilities that it doesn't say anything like that.
    Models and visuals are irrelevant here, abilities are basically everything that matters.
    Baboss187 said:


    Simple logic guys, don't need anything else other than simple logic.

    It's a fictional universe. Logic is whatever the creators of it want it to be.
    Logically you can't apply real world logic here
    Mate lol if ur made of blood (dripping like saliva from venoms mouth)then u can’t die from bleeding out therefor u are bleed immune, simple. It’s like saying iceman can be frozen to death hahaha no creator would be stupid enough to to do that.

    I get it, it’s not written on abilities but that doesn’t make it right.
    Humans have blood. Technically they are made of blood. They can bleed out.
    Just like a ice creature can get colder and freezze to death, and just like a fire creature can get burned to death at even higher temperatures.
    This is not weird or anything. It really is basic, common, cliche in fictiinal universes and stories
    Again u don't get it when I say made of blood. The champ would basically be a shapshifter but in liquid form so it can't bleed out. If ur made of just blood, no bones, arteries or ligaments then there's only 2 ways u can be defeated, I'll let u figure it out.
    Anyway thanks for ur input and we've gone of topic now. Everything that's been said about GR; will leave it at that
  • NiteAndDaeNiteAndDae Member Posts: 670 ★★★
    So honestly, all this aside, he had his time in the sun with the holy Trinity. He is bleed immune, has one of the best regens in the game and power control (little bit on sp2). He has fate seal. His damage is pretty solid.

    He really doesn't need anything more. There are so many other champs that can use a buff before this upper tier champ.
  • Baboss187Baboss187 Member Posts: 140

    So honestly, all this aside, he had his time in the sun with the holy Trinity. He is bleed immune, has one of the best regens in the game and power control (little bit on sp2). He has fate seal. His damage is pretty solid.

    He really doesn't need anything more. There are so many other champs that can use a buff before this upper tier champ.

    I agree he's one of my most used champs and like someone else said, GR helped clear a lot of content.
  • Eb0ny-O-M4wEb0ny-O-M4w Member Posts: 14,099 ★★★★★
    Baboss187 said:

    Baboss187 said:

    Baboss187 said:


    If I was a champ made of blood would u expect to be bleed immune?.

    Well, no. You have bleed, that's the point. Unless somehow you had an ability that would deny it.
    Baboss187 said:


    So GR is on fire so why can't he be immune to incineration?

    He isn't on fire. You can read his abilities that it doesn't say anything like that.
    Models and visuals are irrelevant here, abilities are basically everything that matters.
    Baboss187 said:


    Simple logic guys, don't need anything else other than simple logic.

    It's a fictional universe. Logic is whatever the creators of it want it to be.
    Logically you can't apply real world logic here
    Mate lol if ur made of blood (dripping like saliva from venoms mouth)then u can’t die from bleeding out therefor u are bleed immune, simple. It’s like saying iceman can be frozen to death hahaha no creator would be stupid enough to to do that.

    I get it, it’s not written on abilities but that doesn’t make it right.
    Humans have blood. Technically they are made of blood. They can bleed out.
    Just like a ice creature can get colder and freezze to death, and just like a fire creature can get burned to death at even higher temperatures.
    This is not weird or anything. It really is basic, common, cliche in fictiinal universes and stories
    Again u don't get it when I say made of blood. The champ would basically be a shapshifter but in liquid form so it can't bleed out. If ur made of just blood, no bones, arteries or ligaments then there's only 2 ways u can be defeated, I'll let u figure it out.
    Anyway thanks for ur input and we've gone of topic now. Everything that's been said about GR; will leave it at that
    I understanded it at first. You have plenty of ways to kill something like that, deppending on the universe it is as its laws and rules.

    Back to Ghost Rider, there is not even fire there. Its either visual graphics, or you could say it's "magic" id you go by Marvel universe rules and their Ghost Rider
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