Unfair stats

Jh_Dez

There's a saying here that champs sacrifice hp for high attack and sacrifice attack for good defense
But how true is that
Cuz to me it's unfair
Look
That's doom

And then that's kingpin. Doom has a really op defense from crit rate reduction and also has a powerful fury on sp3 and also enjoys a regular crit damage stat

But look at kingpin, his defense isn't great, he has to get debuffed to get rage which is risky as it's not even 100% chance. The supposed power gain from rage isn't even noticeable, plus without rage he gains power slowly compared to other champs (if you neutered his personal power gain from offensive attacks please add it to his description like psylocke). Even if you want to play him safely, you need to spam 2-3 sp3 to enter overpowered mode. But then again he suffers from low crit rate and crit damage so damage from overpower is pretty useless. again to get rage other than getting debuffed, you need to get hit while unstoppable

You preach balance but practice what you preach
Nonsense
And it's the same thing with a lot of champs
Take king Groot for example, og hulk

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Jh_Dez

WarHawk_Taz_1 said:

Any further Buff on KP might result in him exploding

I wish lol

Worknprogress

You realize that balance doesnt mean every champ has to be equal right?

RoninMan

11% crit rate is not average. It’s actually below average. KP just happens to have an even worse one. Also, from what I can remember, KP’s fury buff is far more substantial than Doom’s and KP has the ability to shrug off all debuffs, something that Doom can’t do. Do you understand balance? It doesn’t mean every champ has the same exact stats and abilities.

Jh_Dez

Worknprogress said:

You realize that balance doesnt mean every champ has to be equal right?

No champ is equal due to their abilities
Basic stats like the above picture shouldn't even necessarily be the same across the board but
They should not have wide gaps like this

Jh_Dez

RoninMan said:

11% crit rate is not average. It’s actually below average. KP just happens to have an even worse one. Also, from what I can remember, KP’s fury buff is far more substantial than Doom’s and KP has the ability to shrug off all debuffs, something that Doom can’t do. Do you understand balance? It doesn’t mean every champ has the same exact stats and abilities.

Have you used a 6* kingpin with overpower active?
Don't call it what it isn't.
And he only has a 50% chance to shrug off debuffs and he still isn't viable for going through nodes like caltrops or biohazard or bleed and poison nodes cuz if he doesn't shrug them off, he's dead.
The only good thing about him is his black iso 8 and even with overpower active, the damage is close with the bleed damage per second of a rank 4 x23

DNA3000

Jh_Dez said:

There's a saying here that champs sacrifice hp for high attack and sacrifice attack for good defense
But how true is that

It is a rule of thumb, not a law of physics. In general, champions balance a lot of different attributes against each other, and raw stats are just one of them. You yourself discuss all sorts of things about Kingpin that have nothing to do with his stats. The sum total is intended to be balanced, but a) no one is perfect, and b) even if you were to try to balance champions perfectly, no two people would agree on what the criteria for that is.

You seem to be reducing the problem of champion imbalances into obvious trivial differences in numbers. But that's not how it works. Yes, there are champion imbalances, no one argues there aren't. But I don't know what comparing Doom to Kingpin illustrates, other than they are different.