Yellow jackets special attacks are not working as expected

Bahubali46

When we activated yellow jackets special attack after that if enemy is activated their special attack 3 within the time damage is happening after the enemy's special attack 3. But as per yellow jackets info enemy should get direct damage first and then special attack 3 should get activated

Uncle_Fatty_247

Power sting instantly punishes only 1s and 2s, 3s it’s after the animation.

From what I can remember, it’s always been like that.

Bahubali46

Yes if enemy activates their special attack 3 within this 3s then direct damage should happen to enemy . Direct damage is happening but after the special attack animation. As per the YJ info first direct damage should happen and then enemies special attack animation should start.

Lormif

His abilities does not say first, it just says when they activate, due to the nature of the sp3 animation the has to do it after

Bahubali46

@Lormif you are saying that first sp3 animation completes then direct damage happens to the enemy??

Uncle_Fatty_247

Bahubali46 said:

@Lormif you are saying that first sp3 animation completes then direct damage happens to the enemy??

Yes, your opponent takes damage BEFORE 1st and 2nd Special Attacks, but for 3rd Special Attacks, it’s AFTER.

It might not be written word for word in his ability description, but this is how it works.

Follow-up to my previous post, confirmed with some old-timers that it has always been this way, except for a bug that would not punish 3rd Special Attacks at all, which has since been fixed.

Lormif

Bahubali46 said:

@Lormif you are saying that first sp3 animation completes then direct damage happens to the enemy??

Yes, the same as with -layers, the ability sheet does not say it will happen befor or after, just when. For sp3 the first thing that ALWAYS happens is the cut scene

SummonerNR

SP attacks have to trigger first before anything else can happen.

Now in the case of SP 1/2, actual fight time takes place during the coarse of the SP 1/2 animation, allowing opponent to make moves, multiple evades, etc. And also, DOT (Damage over Time) effects like Bleed, Poison, etc, will still be inflicting damage DURING the course of the SP 1/2. And in fact could end up killing the champ while he is still executing his SP 1/2. So technically speaking the SP 1/2 “STARTS” to happen first, and then very immediately afterwards the Sting Damage will be applied (which basically looks like the damage is being done before anything else in the SP 1/2

However, with an SP3, time is frozen (ok, not AQ/AW fight timers, but thta's a separate issue), so that upon the instant that the SP3 is triggered, NOTHING else can happen against either champ other than the SP3. All DOT Bleeds, etc, are suspended during this time. So that is why the Sting Damage does not take place until the SP3 animation is over.

(at least, that's how I think of this)