Science 5* to rank 4

W4rdy_74

Got 3 in mind. Quake cant really get to grips with her.

Thing no synergies.

Spidergwen.

Thoughts?

donaldmouse

Thing is good without the synergies but if u get good with quake go for her

donaldmouse

spider Gwen is not worth a rank 4 imo unless u like playing with her or have a large roster

Hendross

Quake, even with a basic parry-heavy strategy she's very useful. Watch Dave's vid. she's worth the learning curve. She got me cavalier at r4.

spaceoctopus

I have quake and spider Gwen both at 5/65. Both are terrific champs. But i would probably do Thing if I had him.

AlexAvalon

Quake

MegaSkater67

donaldmouse said:

spider Gwen is not worth a rank 4 imo unless u like playing with her or have a large roster

I have her at rank 5 and believe me when I say she is absolutely worth it. Out of the 8 R5s I have she’s easily one of my best ones, she covers a lot of ground and has a lot of utility/damage to offer. She’s a fantastic counter to a lot of annoying defenders and she does hit quite hard, I get 8k crits with her at r5 on mediums for example. SP2 can hit up to 50k on a crit and her SP3 adds a lot of extra direct damage on every attack. If you can land a SP2 before hunter spider expires it’s devastating. With her enervate you can heavy spam in the corner which reapplies her slow debuff constantly and crits for 20k. They don’t gain power so you can chain plenty together. My highest is 9 in a row I think, the damage she did in those hits was very impressive. Slow counters all types of evade and unstoppable, whether it be from a node, a buff or a passive ability. I love using it against rhino since she can can safely intercept him, doesn’t need to worry about thing’s rock stacks either since she can just ignore his unstoppable altogether. Slow also allows her to ignore unusual types of evade such as astral evade. If slow is active, Gwen can safely attack a stunned mordo. Her constant enervate allows her to deal with power gain champs/nodes easily, her SP2 can reverse healing, stun and power lock the opponent with a high enough signature ability too. On top of all that, she’s extremely good at fighting anything with unblockable specials. Her evade is guaranteed on 3 spider sense charges (you get one every time you use SP1, get hit 5 times or nullify a true strike buff). I like to use her against doom, he activates his aura on SP1 making the attack unblockable, all I have to do with Gwen is let go of the screen. She’ll evade it for me easily. Extremely useful for anything that’s hard to dodge. In my opinion, she’s one of the top science champions, I have Cap IW at 5/65 sig 200 and whilst he is very useful I find myself using Gwen far more often. Can’t recommend her enough, with or without her signature ability.

spaceoctopus

MegaSkater67 said:

donaldmouse said:

spider Gwen is not worth a rank 4 imo unless u like playing with her or have a large roster

I have her at rank 5 and believe me when I say she is absolutely worth it. Out of the 8 R5s I have she’s easily one of my best ones, she covers a lot of ground and has a lot of utility/damage to offer. She’s a fantastic counter to a lot of annoying defenders and she does hit quite hard, I get 8k crits with her at r5 on mediums for example. SP2 can hit up to 50k on a crit and her SP3 adds a lot of extra direct damage on every attack. If you can land a SP2 before hunter spider expires it’s devastating. With her enervate you can heavy spam in the corner which reapplies her slow debuff constantly and crits for 20k. They don’t gain power so you can chain plenty together. My highest is 9 in a row I think, the damage she did in those hits was very impressive. Slow counters all types of evade and unstoppable, whether it be from a node, a buff or a passive ability. I love using it against rhino since she can can safely intercept him, doesn’t need to worry about thing’s rock stacks either since she can just ignore his unstoppable altogether. Slow also allows her to ignore unusual types of evade such as astral evade. If slow is active, Gwen can safely attack a stunned mordo. Her constant enervate allows her to deal with power gain champs/nodes easily, her SP2 can reverse healing, stun and power lock the opponent with a high enough signature ability too. On top of all that, she’s extremely good at fighting anything with unblockable specials. Her evade is guaranteed on 3 spider sense charges (you get one every time you use SP1, get hit 5 times or nullify a true strike buff). I like to use her against doom, he activates his aura on SP1 making the attack unblockable, all I have to do with Gwen is let go of the screen. She’ll evade it for me easily. Extremely useful for anything that’s hard to dodge. In my opinion, she’s one of the top science champions, I have Cap IW at 5/65 sig 200 and whilst he is very useful I find myself using Gwen far more often. Can’t recommend her enough, with or without her signature ability.

Thank you for having the words I didn’t. I recently took mine to 5/65 and have been enjoying using her, but you threw some ideas in there I hadn’t considered yet!

Reference

Thing or Quake. Thing is easier to play but Quake is god tier if u can familiar with her play style.

donaldmouse

Oh, I don’t see that much spider Gwen gameplay so I wouldn’t know that much but from ur description she seems really good

Badrose

MegaSkater67 said:

donaldmouse said:

spider Gwen is not worth a rank 4 imo unless u like playing with her or have a large roster

I have her at rank 5 and believe me when I say she is absolutely worth it. Out of the 8 R5s I have she’s easily one of my best ones, she covers a lot of ground and has a lot of utility/damage to offer. She’s a fantastic counter to a lot of annoying defenders and she does hit quite hard, I get 8k crits with her at r5 on mediums for example. SP2 can hit up to 50k on a crit and her SP3 adds a lot of extra direct damage on every attack. If you can land a SP2 before hunter spider expires it’s devastating. With her enervate you can heavy spam in the corner which reapplies her slow debuff constantly and crits for 20k. They don’t gain power so you can chain plenty together. My highest is 9 in a row I think, the damage she did in those hits was very impressive. Slow counters all types of evade and unstoppable, whether it be from a node, a buff or a passive ability. I love using it against rhino since she can can safely intercept him, doesn’t need to worry about thing’s rock stacks either since she can just ignore his unstoppable altogether. Slow also allows her to ignore unusual types of evade such as astral evade. If slow is active, Gwen can safely attack a stunned mordo. Her constant enervate allows her to deal with power gain champs/nodes easily, her SP2 can reverse healing, stun and power lock the opponent with a high enough signature ability too. On top of all that, she’s extremely good at fighting anything with unblockable specials. Her evade is guaranteed on 3 spider sense charges (you get one every time you use SP1, get hit 5 times or nullify a true strike buff). I like to use her against doom, he activates his aura on SP1 making the attack unblockable, all I have to do with Gwen is let go of the screen. She’ll evade it for me easily. Extremely useful for anything that’s hard to dodge. In my opinion, she’s one of the top science champions, I have Cap IW at 5/65 sig 200 and whilst he is very useful I find myself using Gwen far more often. Can’t recommend her enough, with or without her signature ability.

People thinks Spider Gwen is still the old useless character it was, but hey, you are all wrong. As MegaSkater67 explained, she's not only good, she's more than excellent.

But I understand, just like many of you I didn't pay attention at her new abilties... I was "forced" to rank Gwen to 5/65 because of many science "Variant Gems", then only after I discovered how useful she was/is. Probably only Void has better utilities in the science class. Try your 3* or 4* first, learn how to use her and rank your 5* Gwen straight to rank 5 with no regrets.

W4rdy_74

Thanks all

HotFondue1520

MegaSkater67 said:

donaldmouse said:

spider Gwen is not worth a rank 4 imo unless u like playing with her or have a large roster

I have her at rank 5 and believe me when I say she is absolutely worth it. Out of the 8 R5s I have she’s easily one of my best ones, she covers a lot of ground and has a lot of utility/damage to offer. She’s a fantastic counter to a lot of annoying defenders and she does hit quite hard, I get 8k crits with her at r5 on mediums for example. SP2 can hit up to 50k on a crit and her SP3 adds a lot of extra direct damage on every attack. If you can land a SP2 before hunter spider expires it’s devastating. With her enervate you can heavy spam in the corner which reapplies her slow debuff constantly and crits for 20k. They don’t gain power so you can chain plenty together. My highest is 9 in a row I think, the damage she did in those hits was very impressive. Slow counters all types of evade and unstoppable, whether it be from a node, a buff or a passive ability. I love using it against rhino since she can can safely intercept him, doesn’t need to worry about thing’s rock stacks either since she can just ignore his unstoppable altogether. Slow also allows her to ignore unusual types of evade such as astral evade. If slow is active, Gwen can safely attack a stunned mordo. Her constant enervate allows her to deal with power gain champs/nodes easily, her SP2 can reverse healing, stun and power lock the opponent with a high enough signature ability too. On top of all that, she’s extremely good at fighting anything with unblockable specials. Her evade is guaranteed on 3 spider sense charges (you get one every time you use SP1, get hit 5 times or nullify a true strike buff). I like to use her against doom, he activates his aura on SP1 making the attack unblockable, all I have to do with Gwen is let go of the screen. She’ll evade it for me easily. Extremely useful for anything that’s hard to dodge. In my opinion, she’s one of the top science champions, I have Cap IW at 5/65 sig 200 and whilst he is very useful I find myself using Gwen far more often. Can’t recommend her enough, with or without her signature ability.

Wow... I found your post very inciteful. I have CapIW 5/65 max sig and I use him for mostly everything lol. He's my favorite champ outa any class for sure. It's nice to read up on someone going against the community and offering up a different choice. After reading your explanation on her abilities and her use, I might take mine to rank 4 and play around with her, see if she lives upto the hype.

Really great post bud!!!