What’s the story with Arenas?
BigPoppaCBONE
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Why are these 5 star repeat nobodies like Darkhawk still cutting-off so high? Even trash commons like Red Skull are too high to be people actually wanting them, so what’s the deal?
New champs with some buzz, I get. Champs with no buzz at all that are known to suck, it doesn’t make sense.
New champs with some buzz, I get. Champs with no buzz at all that are known to suck, it doesn’t make sense.
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Darkhawk went for between 36 and 38 million. That's the current normal cutoff for medium desirable champs. Red Skull went for between 26 and 29 million. That's the current normal for below average but less common champs. Those numbers are almost certainly the result of increasing numbers of 6* champs being used in the arena. Heck even I can do 26 million now without too much difficulty if I really tried: just cycling my 6* champs alone six times in a three day event generates about eleven million points in less than two hours of play. That's total, not per day. There's quite a few people out there with twice my roster doing twenty million points without even trying.
Collectors?
Beginners?
For starters
Probably easier to show than describe:
That's one I did a long time ago. You can see there's a rapid fall off in scores from the top and then it levels out. Then there's another sudden falloff in scores until you reach about two million. That's the Gwenpool arena from 2017, and the featured cutoff was about 14 million, the basic cutoff was about 5 million, and the 3* cutoff was about 2.5 million. The data hints at the consensus guestimates for that arena with people pushing to get between six and eight million, or else mostly giving up past about three million.
My guess is that arena scores probably still do something like this, but we no longer have enough data to confirm it.
It shouldn’t be battlechips and units because they’re easier to get in the other arenas.
but yeah anything between around 35-40M suggests a champion that is moderately desirable by the community.
Anyway, I would think that repeat champs that don’t have much special use at this time would be closer to the final milestone.
The lowest it has been recently was 18 and 22 million for Civil Warrior which was predictable as he's a very low desirability champ. But even King Groot went for 25 million and Cable went for 24 and 26 million.
Darkhawk is more useful and desirable than you're acknowledging which is why his score is higher than you seem to think it should be. But also, no champ is going to go for what you seem to think Darkhawk should go for, because featured cutoff scores have been much higher than the last milestone for over a year and a half. In the last 18 months the only champs going for under 20 million were Cyclops (19 and 22 million), Diablo (18 million), Doc Oc (17 and 21 million) and Ant-Man (19 million).
The last time a champ went for anything close to the last milestone (12 million) was Corvus Glaive in April of 2018 who went for 14 million, and that was clearly one of those weird glitches that sometimes happens when everyone thinks it isn't worth shooting for because the score will be too high, so ironically no one goes for him because in round two he went for 30 million.
It has actually *never* happened in the history of the current arena system post 12.0 that a featured 5* champ went for anywhere near the last cutoff in both rounds. The lowest combined cutoff was probably Jane Foster in February of 2018 who went for 15 and 20 million. No featured champ has gone for less since, not even Hulkbuster (19 and 20 million).
Also, the cutoff for 2000 5* shards has also been rising steadily over time: it currently sits just under 15 million. No featured champ is likely to ever go for lower than that no matter how trash people think it is.