Alliance War Toxicity

nairb0508

Hey Kabam, as the Alliance War Season goes further, it is becoming more and more stressful which is becoming unhealthy. This game atleast relieve us from our day to day life stress but as we enter the game and play AW (Alliance War) it adds up to our stress. I don't think the rewards we get at the end of every season is worth the Stress and Money we spend in the game. Why don't you ramp up the rewards we receive in exchange of all the stress we go tru just to compete with other alliances.

luanamender

i was an alliance officer and planning defense, attack, assignments etc was so stressful. the game was just not fun for me anymore. when i left and joined an alliance that only does AQ, i started having fun again. war season is too stressful and exhausting.

Magrailothos

Now, I don't play Alliance War; but surely the problem with your suggestion is this: if they increase the rewards, won't that increase the pressure and therefore increase the stress?

Wouldn't you rather the stress was somehow reduced to match the rewards?

TP33

I wish people would stop being as cruel as they possibly can when placing AW defense. I know it’s competitive but after 4/5 wars where all you can see is Korg, Thing, IMIW, Domino, Vison Aarkus and Annihilus I feel as if the meta is just to place as much BS as possible, then we are upset at kabam for making BS/hard fights

Morpheus_123

Magrailothos said:

Now, I don't play Alliance War; but surely the problem with your suggestion is this: if they increase the rewards, won't that increase the pressure and therefore increase the stress?

Wouldn't you rather the stress was somehow reduced to match the rewards?

That's what I was thinking too, good point. I agree with the OP, the rewards don't justify the effort and time dedicated to AW. But I think the way to balance it would be to make changes to the format, rather than throw more incentives to add pressure.

Monk1

TP33 said:

I wish people would stop being as cruel as they possibly can when placing AW defense. I know it’s competitive but after 4/5 wars where all you can see is Korg, Thing, IMIW, Domino, Vison Aarkus and Annihilus I feel as if the meta is just to place as much BS as possible, then we are upset at kabam for making BS/hard fights

Not sure what tier your in but I would love to see if those defenders more often.. rather than stacked full of BWCV, g99, warlock and mojo

FR33_HUG5

I play AW. Yes it can be stressful if you don’t have the right champs and/or skill set. Which is the situation I am in.

But I don’t let it get to me. Because I do my best. If the war ends and my defenders get a few kills; I’m content. If the attack champs I bring in get me several wins before getting KOed; I’m content.

I don’t use revives or health pots in AW. Why? Because it’s the biggest cash grab Kabam has.

lowlevelplayer

thats why I only play AQ

Mauled

I agree, the rewards need buffing, especially as it’s the only truly competitive aspect of the game.

I find AW fun and the pressure on a good fight doesn’t bother me, up until there’s something out of my control like those hideous lag spikes last week - which were definitely not my device/connection - then it becomes tedious.

Buffing rewards might entice some of the AQ alliances to come back into the fold which would make it more competitive but you’ll find your level and if the loot is worth a bit of pressure that’s fine by me.

ch4rn

TP33 said:

I wish people would stop being as cruel as they possibly can when placing AW defense. I know it’s competitive but after 4/5 wars where all you can see is Korg, Thing, IMIW, Domino, Vison Aarkus and Annihilus I feel as if the meta is just to place as much BS as possible, then we are upset at kabam for making BS/hard fights

Do you expect players to place rubbish defenders just to appease you?
I'm pretty sure they like victory rewards just as much as you do.

How about your alliance members start ranking up harder defenders to place?

Devourer

nairb0508 said:

Hey Kabam, as the Alliance War Season goes further, it is becoming more and more stressful which is becoming unhealthy. This game atleast relieve us from our day to day life stress but as we enter the game and play AW (Alliance War) it adds up to our stress. I don't think the rewards we get at the end of every season is worth the Stress and Money we spend in the game. Why don't you ramp up the rewards we receive in exchange of all the stress we go tru just to compete with other alliances.

You ever think of joining a allaince that is AQ focused just a though, no one is forcing you to play AW

Devourer

FR33_HUG5 said:

I play AW. Yes it can be stressful if you don’t have the right champs and/or skill set. Which is the situation I am in.

But I don’t let it get to me. Because I do my best. If the war ends and my defenders get a few kills; I’m content. If the attack champs I bring in get me several wins before getting KOed; I’m content.

I don’t use revives or health pots in AW. Why? Because it’s the biggest cash grab Kabam has.

Hows it a cashgrab, you cleary anrent i high tier aws like most of the whiny AW haters, if yall stop for a second and maybe help out your allaince by not being a selfish sod by spending all ya glory on rank ups and instead of potions youd see that you dont have to spend a single unit on AW if you effectivly know how to manage glory, the issue most of you lot have is that many of you are in gold or lower and when something is hard instead of getting good or bringing the right counter which is like 90% of aw, you instead whine, yes i agree rewards should be buffed but it wont change the fact that people who are bad at AW wont magicly become good lol

TP33

@ch4rn and @Monk1 and to everyone who disliked, I’m not complaining about the war being too hard, we place some very annoying and BS defenders as well and make defensive rank up choices, I’m annoyed that people make these choices, they put up these defenders knowing full well somebody else is going to have to face it, and then they complain to kabam when they create a difficult EQ/act 6 boss fight (the MODOK stuff is different bc they have little to no control over the nodes and champions there). It’s the hypocrisy of the community when they place a defender such as Anihullus on Siphon or Mojo on Flow, both fights having very little counters/garunting item use, and then they complain about the 6,2 champion boss who can pretty much be done with any slow/nullify champion and some skill/knowledge of spacings and timings

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Markjv81

Just play at a level that isn’t stressful for you, pretty simple really.

winterthur

YoMoves

TP33 said:

@ch4rn and @Monk1 and to everyone who disliked, I’m not complaining about the war being too hard, we place some very annoying and BS defenders as well and make defensive rank up choices, I’m annoyed that people make these choices, they put up these defenders knowing full well somebody else is going to have to face it, and then they complain to kabam when they create a difficult EQ/act 6 boss fight (the MODOK stuff is different bc they have little to no control over the nodes and champions there). It’s the hypocrisy of the community when they place a defender such as Anihullus on Siphon or Mojo on Flow, both fights having very little counters/garunting item use, and then they complain about the 6,2 champion boss who can pretty much be done with any slow/nullify champion and some skill/knowledge of spacings and timings

Well, then you're part of the problem, ain't ya? You complain but you do nothing about it. If you're sick of all the BS, maybe practice what you preach before you try to force it onto others, eh? Let's see how that goes.

Player1994

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Wakandas_Finest

Morpheus_123 said:

Magrailothos said:

Now, I don't play Alliance War; but surely the problem with your suggestion is this: if they increase the rewards, won't that increase the pressure and therefore increase the stress?

Wouldn't you rather the stress was somehow reduced to match the rewards?

That's what I was thinking too, good point. I agree with the OP, the rewards don't justify the effort and time dedicated to AW. But I think the way to balance it would be to make changes to the format, rather than throw more incentives to add pressure.

It’s the only true competitive mode in the game. No matter the rewards, format, or difficulty it’s always going to be stressful. Competition by its very nature is stressful

Gigantea

I do feel the same. Now we reached Tier 5, it will be a lot of BS and stress.

Arifutera

We are in tier2/plat1...don't know why but it's fun this season...
Probably we got used to flow over the last two seasons and figured out better counters and ranked them up...I know everyone doesn't have the champs to counter flow...but it's fun in our alliance this season...

akcowboy01234

I recently started my own alliance so that I could do quests and wars at my relatively low level. Problem is, no one else who does the wars is as low level as I am. My largest champ is a 3,420 Rag Hulk, and he is my biggest by almost 1,000. Every time I go to war, I get thru maybe 2 or 3 fights, then all defenders r 5 or 6,000 or bigger. Kinda takes all the fun out of it. I wish we had some input on our own matchmaking, cuz the game sucks at it.

winterthur

akcowboy01234 said:

I recently started my own alliance so that I could do quests and wars at my relatively low level. Problem is, no one else who does the wars is as low level as I am. My largest champ is a 3,420 Rag Hulk, and he is my biggest by almost 1,000. Every time I go to war, I get thru maybe 2 or 3 fights, then all defenders r 5 or 6,000 or bigger. Kinda takes all the fun out of it. I wish we had some input on our own matchmaking, cuz the game sucks at it.

I started one too to gain small amount of rewards (does not matter whether win or lose).

Then I start to see empty maps (easy walkthrough).

Then I see alliances with same strength. The competitiveness returned. Ouch ...

the_eradicator

Kabam hear us out. AW is stressful the rewards don't match up to them. What are you guys doing ?

Monk1

the_eradicator said:

Kabam hear us out. AW is stressful the rewards don't match up to them. What are you guys doing ?

Just don’t play it then. I like wars and see not issue, juts means u got to rank different champs and learn new style of play.

It should not be easy and actually being like this gives people who are not spending tons for top Prestige a chance to get Good rewards

ch4rn

TP33 said:

@ch4rn and @Monk1 and to everyone who disliked, I’m not complaining about the war being too hard, we place some very annoying and BS defenders as well and make defensive rank up choices, I’m annoyed that people make these choices, they put up these defenders knowing full well somebody else is going to have to face it, and then they complain to kabam when they create a difficult EQ/act 6 boss fight (the MODOK stuff is different bc they have little to no control over the nodes and champions there). It’s the hypocrisy of the community when they place a defender such as Anihullus on Siphon or Mojo on Flow, both fights having very little counters/garunting item use, and then they complain about the 6,2 champion boss who can pretty much be done with any slow/nullify champion and some skill/knowledge of spacings and timings

Here's an idea, don't place any defenders in your next war, and hope the opposition do the same? Then you wont have to cry.

Im not complaining about any content. It is what it is. If you don't like it, don't do it. If you "cant" do it, then you're clearly not ready.

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Kpratish1997

I don't have a problem against AW.
I have problem with flow tactics.
So, far i am good.

Thecurler

Just drop down. Below tier 5 the nodes are super easy. You can spend nearly all your Glory on rank up materials.
Imo the difference in rewards for finishing in Platinum aren't much better so it doesn't make sense to push if you aren't enjoying it. Arguably it makes more sense to sit outside tier 5 and spend Glory on rank up materials anyway.

evilteddumz

I think it needs to be a bit less stressful - like getting rid of the death penalization because let’s face it some of us aren’t as on point as fighters and the whole alliance getting mad because you died sucks(just a possible solution) and yes the amount of time and energy for those rewards is rough so more rewards. Maybe we could make it so your alliance could help you out in AW like a here’s some health button- getting rid of the ability to gift was maybe necessary but it made it harder for the alliance to help us out if we had a bad day. Like a buff help button or a health help button would be cool.