Cav difficulty - just not fun.

I just finished Cav difficulty, and I don't really think it's enjoyable. The rewards aren't really fantastic, and it took way too long. My roster is of decent size and variety, though I still lack Corvus and Ghost.

A few ideas:

Buffed up needs to go. This is probably the most restrictive chapter. Diss track is manageable.

There are bugs throughout the game now with #metal interactions and magneto. The most annoying was Matador wasp. Magnetism seemed to somehow turn off mag's ability to gain power sometimes after she threw her specials. It made the match so much annoyingly longer.

How can the next step up from UC EQ level be double the AR and triple the health pools? Lower the health pools, and I think a lot less people will complain about the time it took to finish this.

Difficulty was fine for the most part, but as it is, it's not really fun or necessary content for 85% of the community.

Comments

Esket1t_420

nobody is forcing you to do cavalier and if u feel the rewards aren’t worth then don’t do it. cavalier was literally made to one up UC so the health pools and difficulty of fights was reasonable, also you stated “my roster is of decent size and variety” and seeing that your cavalier you should easily have counters to buffed up

Thicco_Mode

idk I've heard that a lot of people thought it was reasonably fun, but most say rewards could be bumped a little

mydnight

But, it's not fun. That's the main point. Games are supposed to be enjoyable? I play this game.

That's like telling a kid that doesn't totally enjoy basketball to get off the court and stop playing just because the coach isn't good.

Dnegrin6969

There’s so much other stuff to do you know

Worknprogress

I just finished Cav difficulty, and I don't really think it's enjoyable. The rewards aren't really fantastic, and it took way too long. My roster is of decent size and variety, though I still lack Corvus and Ghost.

A few ideas:

Buffed up needs to go. This is probably the most restrictive chapter. Diss track is manageable.

There are bugs throughout the game now with #metal interactions and magneto. The most annoying was Matador wasp. Magnetism seemed to somehow turn off mag's ability to gain power sometimes after she threw her specials. It made the match so much annoyingly longer.

How can the next step up from UC EQ level be double the AR and triple the health pools? Lower the health pools, and I think a lot less people will complain about the time it took to finish this.

Difficulty was fine for the most part, but as it is, it's not really fun or necessary content for 85% of the community.

That's not a bug with matador. Decreasing ability accuracy also affects node effects. Same reason AA shuts off lots of nodes with neuro. Same thing can happen on matador with him, Domino, or any other normal AAR champ.

The health pools are higher bc with most of the quests you get a massive boost for using the right champ. Capiw was clearing fights in 14 hits on disstrack. Hype was dropping incinerates that ticked for 2k. Not even gonna mention what even a 4* SW or Doom can do on the mystic quest. Use the right champs and its basically a breeze.

Worknprogress

I had an absolute blast finishing it. I also played to the nodes. Wasn't near as difficult as I somewhat hoped but at least it was fun.

Pintzz

Yea I actually found it easier then when UC first dropped. That was hard. Anyone remember that Ice Phoenix LOL. This was a ton of fun. buffed up I used 4 star hype once you get this aptitude buffs he was hitting 60-70k Sp2s

AlexAvalon

I had a blast, rewards could be better, I have a big roster so an answer for everything but thought the difficulty was pretty mild and nodes were fun, for buffed up I used Medusa with black bolt, cmm with nick fury, colossus with omega red, and even used venom and carnage for a few paths, all except black bolt are 5/65, I could see how if u didn’t have the proper counters it could be a pain but for endgame rosters it’s honestly pretty easy

Buttehrs

I've done completion. Outside of buffed up it really wasnt all that bad. Buffed up just isnt that fun though, especially when I have over 75 5* but only 2 usable cosmics and colossus for it lol.

Thicco_Mode

I had a blast, rewards could be better, I have a big roster so an answer for everything but thought the difficulty was pretty mild and nodes were fun, for buffed up I used Medusa with black bolt, cmm with nick fury, colossus with omega red, and even used venom and carnage for a few paths, all except black bolt are 5/65, I could see how if u didn’t have the proper counters it could be a pain but for endgame rosters it’s honestly pretty easy

yeah and even if you don't have the people as 5* for buffed up or whatever, you always have 4*

Worknprogress

Yea I actually found it easier then when UC first dropped. That was hard. Anyone remember that Ice Phoenix LOL. This was a ton of fun. buffed up I used 4 star hype once you get this aptitude buffs he was hitting 60-70k Sp2s

Yeah hype even as a 4* wrecks that quest. 6* R1 angela will slap out 15-18k mediums once the aptitude ramps up

ItsDamien

The funniest thing I found out today....

Variant 2 Yellowjacket in the last quest has more HP than any of the bosses in Cav difficultly.

Variant 2 released about a month after 6.1 came out.

450k YJ vs 395k Apocalypse.

I don't have the biggest roster, but I definitely do have the right champs to make Cav difficulty a breeze for the most part. Buffed up can be countered by a lot of champs if you're using Heimdall synergies, even as 3*.

The main problems seem to be:

1. People aren't thinking outside of the box of what their usual roster contains. Everyone is so used to just using their absolute best champs and don't even look at what the rest of their roster contains.

2. People seem to think that this content can only be done with 5 and 6* champs, when their whole roster is available to use. A maxed out 4* is still the equivalent of a r3 5*, and given that you only need counters to nodes on the paths, you can save 1 or 2 champs that aren't suited for the paths to beat the boss with. Path clearers and 1 or 2 boss killers is all you need.

I hate to use a cliche like this but. Improvise. Adapt. Overcome.

mydnight

I guess you guys have a lot more time to play than I do. Thinking about this length of a quest coming out monthly.....man.

KDSuperFlash10

It was super fun imo

KDSuperFlash10

I guess you guys have a lot more time to play than I do. Thinking about this length of a quest coming out monthly.....man.

Just space it out throughout the entire month. If your schedule doesn’t allow you to do it then that’s on you. Some people want fun, challenging content.

mydnight

How is 5 minutes per fight fun? I don't get it.

ItsDamien

I guess you guys have a lot more time to play than I do. Thinking about this length of a quest coming out monthly.....man.

You have an entire month to do it. 1 path a day is literally all that's needed if you don't have time.

I've personally 100% both Cav and UC as of 2 days ago. Cav was 100% done a week ago. Since then I've also 100% Variant 2 chapter 2 and 3 of which I only had 1 path completed on both chapters. I've spent more time playing Apex Legends than I have MCOC this month. It's about using energy when you're full, and refills when you need to.

Worknprogress

I guess you guys have a lot more time to play than I do. Thinking about this length of a quest coming out monthly.....man.

We're not even halfway through the month and you're done. Could have spread that out over another 2 weeks if you wanted

Esket1t_420

How is 5 minutes per fight fun? I don't get it.

it’s not the time length and stuff that people enjoy, most of the player base much would rather have enjoyable and fun node interactions and out of the box champion use for long fights rather than moderate health pools with boring nodes

Worknprogress

How is 5 minutes per fight fun? I don't get it.

You're definitely using the wrong champs if the fights are taking you 5min each

Esket1t_420

also if u think a 5 min fight is boring you’re not gonna clear labyrinth or abyss anytime soon

mydnight

How can you guys not think 5 minute fights are boring? I finished lab. Also not enjoyable.

God.

SneakyWarrior

if u take five minutes per fight then maybe this content isnt geared towards u. improve ur roster, sharpen ur skills and come back and try it again.

Worknprogress

I just did a fight on the disstrack quest with a 4/40 4* capiw in under 2min and it wasn't even a clean fight bc I'm sitting here watching tv

mydnight

I don't have corvus or ghost. I'm also f2p. I'm using what was given to me.

Anyone who uses them on 90% of the content and says "x is easy" doesn't need to reply to this thread.

Worknprogress

4* hype did a buffed up fight in barely over 2 min with terrible fury RNG as well

Worknprogress

So like I said, use the right champs and the fights go a lot faster

ItsDamien

I don't have corvus or ghost. I'm also f2p. I'm using what was given to me.

Anyone who uses them on 90% of the content and says "x is easy" doesn't need to reply to this thread.

Corvus really isn't great for Cav EQ. Trust me. I tried with my 6* R2 with Suicides. I still ran out of charges before getting one fight completed.

Ghost I didn't use until Apocalypse. Infact I only used her on Apocalypse. I don't know if that counts as 90% of the content.

The main champs I used, NF BWCV OR Colossus Hype CAIW and Warlock. I think that was it for basically the majority of Cav EQ unless I brought in another random champ for a very niche and specific reason.

mydnight

Look, I stated I didn't find it fun. You guys saying, "well, it ACTUALLY IS fun bc I think it's fun" doesn't sway my opinion.

EQ used to be a casual thing to finish between working on permanent content for some useful, albeit outdated, stuff.

Cav plays like a variant, but with much less rewards.

GOTG

But, it's not fun. That's the main point. Games are supposed to be enjoyable? I play this game.

That's like telling a kid that doesn't totally enjoy basketball to get off the court and stop playing just because the coach isn't good.

Your opinion isn't holding any value because it's selfish. Period.