How good is Doctor Doom with suicides?

Moot4LifeMoot4Life Posts: 2,132 ★★★★
I have been wondering about this for quite a while now...

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  • Yodabolt21Yodabolt21 Posts: 1,225 ★★★★
    You take recoil damage obviously... but people saying he is trash with suicides are just wrong. I still use him frequently and do one of two things:
    1. Only use sp3... not ideal, but I’m depends on the matchup
    2. Play him the exact day way and still get through 3 or 4 fights before giving him a potion or 2.

    He is still one of the best 5 champs in the game with suicides.
  • GardenerGardener Posts: 1,583 ★★★
    i would say he is definately best mystic still with Suicides but, if i had suicides unlocked i wouldn't be using them with Doom
  • Kill_GreyKill_Grey Posts: 7,045 ★★★★★
    Unless you like spending potions, he's not gonna be a major path clearer for you anymore
  • Kill_GreyKill_Grey Posts: 7,045 ★★★★★

    You take recoil damage obviously... but people saying he is trash with suicides are just wrong. I still use him frequently and do one of two things:
    1. Only use sp3... not ideal, but I’m depends on the matchup
    2. Play him the exact day way and still get through 3 or 4 fights before giving him a potion or 2.

    He is still one of the best 5 champs in the game with suicides.

    Obviously you haven't played with a lot of Champs.
  • Kill_GreyKill_Grey Posts: 7,045 ★★★★★
    Gardener said:

    i would say he is definately best mystic still with Suicides but, if i had suicides unlocked i wouldn't be using them with Doom

    Claire, Morningstar are dragon man are way better with Suicides than Doom. I don't think you've actually played a Doom with suicides.
  • Sarvanga1_Sarvanga1_ Posts: 3,097 ★★★★★
    Doom with suicides should only be used for specific fights. Can't do the whole path.
    Playing doom with suicides is not a pleasant time. His health constantly goes down with specials. It's one of the many reasons I don't run suicides.
  • Yodabolt21Yodabolt21 Posts: 1,225 ★★★★
    Kill_Grey said:

    You take recoil damage obviously... but people saying he is trash with suicides are just wrong. I still use him frequently and do one of two things:
    1. Only use sp3... not ideal, but I’m depends on the matchup
    2. Play him the exact day way and still get through 3 or 4 fights before giving him a potion or 2.

    He is still one of the best 5 champs in the game with suicides.

    Obviously you haven't played with a lot of Champs.
    Clearly you just don't know how to use him properly with suicides on. You only need to throw 1 sp1 or sp2 the entire fight if you do. Certain matchups are different obviously, but I had no problem running him in 5.3-6.1 with suicides on. Did I use him for every single fight, no, but he did some work for me and I gave him a potion here and there and he was certainly useful.
  • EtjamaEtjama Posts: 7,198 ★★★★★

    Kill_Grey said:

    You take recoil damage obviously... but people saying he is trash with suicides are just wrong. I still use him frequently and do one of two things:
    1. Only use sp3... not ideal, but I’m depends on the matchup
    2. Play him the exact day way and still get through 3 or 4 fights before giving him a potion or 2.

    He is still one of the best 5 champs in the game with suicides.

    Obviously you haven't played with a lot of Champs.
    Clearly you just don't know how to use him properly with suicides on. You only need to throw 1 sp1 or sp2 the entire fight if you do. Certain matchups are different obviously, but I had no problem running him in 5.3-6.1 with suicides on. Did I use him for every single fight, no, but he did some work for me and I gave him a potion here and there and he was certainly useful.
    He's not a top 5 champ with suicides though. Just because you were able to use him with suicides on doesn't mean he's good with suicides on.
  • Shamir51Shamir51 Posts: 612 ★★★
    I run full suicides and barely got any usage out of my doom in 6.3-7.1. You can’t effectively cycle his specials as you need to.
  • Kill_GreyKill_Grey Posts: 7,045 ★★★★★

    Kill_Grey said:

    You take recoil damage obviously... but people saying he is trash with suicides are just wrong. I still use him frequently and do one of two things:
    1. Only use sp3... not ideal, but I’m depends on the matchup
    2. Play him the exact day way and still get through 3 or 4 fights before giving him a potion or 2.

    He is still one of the best 5 champs in the game with suicides.

    Obviously you haven't played with a lot of Champs.
    Clearly you just don't know how to use him properly with suicides on. You only need to throw 1 sp1 or sp2 the entire fight if you do. Certain matchups are different obviously, but I had no problem running him in 5.3-6.1 with suicides on. Did I use him for every single fight, no, but he did some work for me and I gave him a potion here and there and he was certainly useful.
    Why don't you tell us about your experience in 6.3-7.1?
  • MoudouMoudou Posts: 151
    As most have said, you loses a lot of value. I have suicides on all the time and I have Doom at r5. Only bring him for specific fights (1 or 2) and he does great, but that’s about it. If you have NF and Deadpool/Goldpool synergy, then Doom does extremely well, but that’s a huge investment
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