War rewards need big Big BIG buff

War needs a buff. Come on now. Nobody needs to explain it. We all know. In tier 5 and above we spend crazy resources, more than the amount gained from the season rewards. Do you not see a problem here?

War should have a fun amount of resources gained. Stuff we can't get anywhere else or atleast very healthy amounts of the stuff we can get other places. It doesn't make sense to have players struggle through a war season for a net loss. But that is the reality for a lot of alliances. We are coordinating, using boosts and strategy and skill, all while stressing and spending time. Yet at the end of the season we are taking a net loss on resources for all the glory spent to compete.

That is dirty. Kabam.... Kabam ! Come on. Do something with War. I don't want to have to quit my alliance.

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danielmath

My alliance decided to forgo on using skill this season

Karatemike415

My alliance decided to forgo on using skill this season

LOL

Masterpuff

My alliance decided to forgo on using skill this season

Items for the win? That was a really solid anti-win streak you had going.

The_Sentry06

Idk if the platinum and master rewards are worth it, but the gold and silver rewards definitely aren't.

Pyrda

Gold 1+2 rewards are worse you have to compete in t5 atleast a few fights and you get nearly nothing for it, so pls change the rewards or make war more fun and less item intensive

xNig

Gold 1+2 rewards are worse you have to compete in t5 atleast a few fights and you get nearly nothing for it, so pls change the rewards or make war more fun and less item intensive

That’s why it’s Tier 5 for a “few fights” and that’s why it’s G1/2.

Seraphion

My alliance decided to forgo on using skill this season

Happens to the best of us sometimes

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Lordabck

Completely agree with you. Now I don’t even feel like playing AQ and AW.

Giuliameij

@Lordabck Aq actually has pretty good rewards for the effort if you get more than 80m point per round.
I see people not doing AW, but AQ actually has some very worthwhile rewards especially after the energy and time changes.

Lvernon15

My alliance decided to forgo on using skill this season

Protesting against trashy rewards 😂 by getting even worse rewards, well dunno if you’ve all made masters or not yet

Lvernon15

Yeah, aw is due a rework, rewards buffs haven’t happens for ages, stubborn has been the dominant tactic for so long that it’s just dull now, really hoping stuff is shaken up for next season

KattohS

Idk if the platinum and master rewards are worth it, but the gold and silver rewards definitely aren't.

It also seems almost impossible to move up out of them.

TyEdge

The bigger failure is their failure to evolve with the sidequest shard meta. In a world where Cavalier sidequest is worth 5000 shards and this month’s sidequest can produce 11,000 on top of a 5-star and a 5-star feature, it’s insane that the 1501st ranked alliance gets 1000 shards.

It’s also another situation where t5cc need to be stretched further down the rankings. 2% in gold 2 isn’t going to break the meta, and would be a bone to throw to players in not-3bg war.

The_Sentry06

Idk if the platinum and master rewards are worth it, but the gold and silver rewards definitely aren't.
It also seems almost impossible to move up out of them.

Me and alliance have been stuck in Silver 1 and 2 for the past few season. Part of the reason is probably that we don't play very well and cuz we lack the drive to move forward. Gold is one of the most competitive brackets. Suppose we reached the gold brackets, what would we get? More stress and more item usage for below-average to mediocre at best rewards. Most of us don't even enjoy AW so we don't do it for fun.

Demonzfyre

War needs a buff. Come on now. Nobody needs to explain it. We all know. In tier 5 and above we spend crazy resources, more than the amount gained from the season rewards. Do you not see a problem here?

War should have a fun amount of resources gained. Stuff we can't get anywhere else or atleast very healthy amounts of the stuff we can get other places. It doesn't make sense to have players struggle through a war season for a net loss. But that is the reality for a lot of alliances. We are coordinating, using boosts and strategy and skill, all while stressing and spending time. Yet at the end of the season we are taking a net loss on resources for all the glory spent to compete.

That is dirty. Kabam.... Kabam ! Come on. Do something with War. I don't want to have to quit my alliance.

So...... are you going to make a suggestion to what you want to see? I'd really like to hear what your expectations are for "fun amount of resources".

Panchulon21

Definitely agree. There is a lot that ls due a rework.

Win loss crystal
Shards for a win and loss
The t5cc at end of season
The 5 and 6 stars to end season.
The milestones for the whole season (individual) these even for low accounts are bad. They should be tiered for progression. Remove the shard and crystals and add revives potions loyalty and boosts.

Deacon

Yeah, aw is due a rework, rewards buffs haven’t happens for ages, stubborn has been the dominant tactic for so long that it’s just dull now, really hoping stuff is shaken up for next season

there was a time when i absolutely hated Flow Wars because that's all people would use and now it's Stubborn which if i'm being honest, is easy especially with Stubborn attackers. i think people use it now to negate Quake but some people are still able to use Quake.

anyway, totally agree .... rewards are abysmal if you're not in a Master alliance (even Plat)

Wicket329

The alliance I’m currently in hovers around the P4/P3 line and AW rewards are absolutely not worth it. Most of the alliance is Thronebreaker. For the season’s worth of work it gives less t5cc than we could get in the same time frame by running map 5 AQ and buying the 5% t5cc from the glory store each week. The shards are cool and all but it’s not nearly enough to offset the time and resource investment.

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Graydrox

War needs a buff. Come on now. Nobody needs to explain it. We all know. In tier 5 and above we spend crazy resources, more than the amount gained from the season rewards. Do you not see a problem here?

War should have a fun amount of resources gained. Stuff we can't get anywhere else or atleast very healthy amounts of the stuff we can get other places. It doesn't make sense to have players struggle through a war season for a net loss. But that is the reality for a lot of alliances. We are coordinating, using boosts and strategy and skill, all while stressing and spending time. Yet at the end of the season we are taking a net loss on resources for all the glory spent to compete.

That is dirty. Kabam.... Kabam ! Come on. Do something with War. I don't want to have to quit my alliance.
So...... are you going to make a suggestion to what you want to see? I'd really like to hear what your expectations are for "fun amount of resources".

War store. We should get a type of war credit similar to glory where we can buy exclusive items. Maybe those epoc crystals for example. I don't know. Why do you want my suggestion anyway? You just want to stomp on it?

Notsavage19

War needs a buff. Come on now. Nobody needs to explain it. We all know. In tier 5 and above we spend crazy resources, more than the amount gained from the season rewards. Do you not see a problem here?

War should have a fun amount of resources gained. Stuff we can't get anywhere else or atleast very healthy amounts of the stuff we can get other places. It doesn't make sense to have players struggle through a war season for a net loss. But that is the reality for a lot of alliances. We are coordinating, using boosts and strategy and skill, all while stressing and spending time. Yet at the end of the season we are taking a net loss on resources for all the glory spent to compete.

That is dirty. Kabam.... Kabam ! Come on. Do something with War. I don't want to have to quit my alliance.
So...... are you going to make a suggestion to what you want to see? I'd really like to hear what your expectations are for "fun amount of resources".
Why do you want my suggestion anyway? You just want to stomp on it?

Well, people just want to see what your side of the argument is. If you have a problem, propose a solution.

Deacon

well to be fair, Kabam is actually revamping War entirely. so they know the suckage of it. and it's a Dungeons to Incursions level of revamping. so there's hope that we see something amazing happen with War at some point.

Demonzfyre

War needs a buff. Come on now. Nobody needs to explain it. We all know. In tier 5 and above we spend crazy resources, more than the amount gained from the season rewards. Do you not see a problem here?

War should have a fun amount of resources gained. Stuff we can't get anywhere else or atleast very healthy amounts of the stuff we can get other places. It doesn't make sense to have players struggle through a war season for a net loss. But that is the reality for a lot of alliances. We are coordinating, using boosts and strategy and skill, all while stressing and spending time. Yet at the end of the season we are taking a net loss on resources for all the glory spent to compete.

That is dirty. Kabam.... Kabam ! Come on. Do something with War. I don't want to have to quit my alliance.
So...... are you going to make a suggestion to what you want to see? I'd really like to hear what your expectations are for "fun amount of resources".
War store. We should get a type of war credit similar to glory where we can buy exclusive items. Maybe those epoc crystals for example. I don't know. Why do you want my suggestion anyway? You just want to stomp on it?

Because you have a problem with rewards. If you don't offer input or solutions or give any sort of idea, how is Kabam going to get close to what you want? Lets say they do make changes but none of which are what you wanted. You didn't give any input other than they need updated.

The point of feedback is to give suggestions to make improvements. Lets assume you are an adult with a job. Your performance review comes up and you tell your boss you are looking for a raise. So your boss takes that bit of information and gives you $.05 more per hour. It's not what you were wanting but you didn't specify what you wanted.

A war store isn't a bad idea but how do epoch shards fall into resources you can for war? If your point is to not have a "net loss" in resources, wouldn't you want them to just offer things like boosts and pots and rank up resources for AW?

The point in me asking isn't to stomp on your ideas but from your initial post, I feel a lot of high expectations that will only lead to disappointment. That's why laying out your ideas is good so that people can point out where you're aiming too high.

Graydrox

War needs a buff. Come on now. Nobody needs to explain it. We all know. In tier 5 and above we spend crazy resources, more than the amount gained from the season rewards. Do you not see a problem here?

War should have a fun amount of resources gained. Stuff we can't get anywhere else or atleast very healthy amounts of the stuff we can get other places. It doesn't make sense to have players struggle through a war season for a net loss. But that is the reality for a lot of alliances. We are coordinating, using boosts and strategy and skill, all while stressing and spending time. Yet at the end of the season we are taking a net loss on resources for all the glory spent to compete.

That is dirty. Kabam.... Kabam ! Come on. Do something with War. I don't want to have to quit my alliance.
So...... are you going to make a suggestion to what you want to see? I'd really like to hear what your expectations are for "fun amount of resources".
Why do you want my suggestion anyway? You just want to stomp on it?
Well, people just want to see what your side of the argument is. If you have a problem, propose a solution.

If it was a difficult problem I would try to do that I guess. But the solutions are wide open in this case.

JragonMaster170

GUYS THIS IS 2/3 YEARS AGO

Demonzfyre

GUYS THIS IS 2/3 YEARS AGO

What?

Graydrox

War needs a buff. Come on now. Nobody needs to explain it. We all know. In tier 5 and above we spend crazy resources, more than the amount gained from the season rewards. Do you not see a problem here?

War should have a fun amount of resources gained. Stuff we can't get anywhere else or atleast very healthy amounts of the stuff we can get other places. It doesn't make sense to have players struggle through a war season for a net loss. But that is the reality for a lot of alliances. We are coordinating, using boosts and strategy and skill, all while stressing and spending time. Yet at the end of the season we are taking a net loss on resources for all the glory spent to compete.

That is dirty. Kabam.... Kabam ! Come on. Do something with War. I don't want to have to quit my alliance.
So...... are you going to make a suggestion to what you want to see? I'd really like to hear what your expectations are for "fun amount of resources".
War store. We should get a type of war credit similar to glory where we can buy exclusive items. Maybe those epoc crystals for example. I don't know. Why do you want my suggestion anyway? You just want to stomp on it?
Because you have a problem with rewards. If you don't offer input or solutions or give any sort of idea, how is Kabam going to get close to what you want? Lets say they do make changes but none of which are what you wanted. You didn't give any input other than they need updated.

The point of feedback is to give suggestions to make improvements. Lets assume you are an adult with a job. Your performance review comes up and you tell your boss you are looking for a raise. So your boss takes that bit of information and gives you $.05 more per hour. It's not what you were wanting but you didn't specify what you wanted.

A war store isn't a bad idea but how do epoch shards fall into resources you can for war? If your point is to not have a "net loss" in resources, wouldn't you want them to just offer things like boosts and pots and rank up resources for AW?

The point in me asking isn't to stomp on your ideas but from your initial post, I feel a lot of high expectations that will only lead to disappointment. That's why laying out your ideas is good so that people can point out where you're aiming too high.

I hear you. But Kabam isn't going to jot down my suggestions and propose them to the team. It's a waste of time giving specifics imo. Just let kabam know what needs to be worked on and they will figure out their own solution to the problem. They have their own special concerns they have to work around.

But one thing I will say is that the glory store spending to feed wars need to stop. War is pretty much canceling out our AQ rewards. Potions should not be available in the glory store. There's a specific answer for you.

Crcrcrc

War needs a buff. Come on now. Nobody needs to explain it. We all know. In tier 5 and above we spend crazy resources, more than the amount gained from the season rewards. Do you not see a problem here?

War should have a fun amount of resources gained. Stuff we can't get anywhere else or atleast very healthy amounts of the stuff we can get other places. It doesn't make sense to have players struggle through a war season for a net loss. But that is the reality for a lot of alliances. We are coordinating, using boosts and strategy and skill, all while stressing and spending time. Yet at the end of the season we are taking a net loss on resources for all the glory spent to compete.

That is dirty. Kabam.... Kabam ! Come on. Do something with War. I don't want to have to quit my alliance.
So...... are you going to make a suggestion to what you want to see? I'd really like to hear what your expectations are for "fun amount of resources".
War store. We should get a type of war credit similar to glory where we can buy exclusive items. Maybe those epoc crystals for example. I don't know. Why do you want my suggestion anyway? You just want to stomp on it?
Because you have a problem with rewards. If you don't offer input or solutions or give any sort of idea, how is Kabam going to get close to what you want? Lets say they do make changes but none of which are what you wanted. You didn't give any input other than they need updated.

The point of feedback is to give suggestions to make improvements. Lets assume you are an adult with a job. Your performance review comes up and you tell your boss you are looking for a raise. So your boss takes that bit of information and gives you $.05 more per hour. It's not what you were wanting but you didn't specify what you wanted.

A war store isn't a bad idea but how do epoch shards fall into resources you can for war? If your point is to not have a "net loss" in resources, wouldn't you want them to just offer things like boosts and pots and rank up resources for AW?

The point in me asking isn't to stomp on your ideas but from your initial post, I feel a lot of high expectations that will only lead to disappointment. That's why laying out your ideas is good so that people can point out where you're aiming too high.
I hear you. But Kabam isn't going to jot down my suggestions and propose them to the team. It's a waste of time giving specifics imo. Just let kabam know what needs to be worked on and they will figure out their own solution to the problem. They have their own special concerns they have to work around.

But one thing I will say is that the glory store spending to feed wars need to stop. War is pretty much canceling out our AQ rewards. Potions should not be available in the glory store. There's a specific answer for you.

Then if you won't provide feedback, you have no right to complain when changes are made if you don't like them.

Moosetiptronic

If this debate is kept civil, it would genuinely be interesting to read suggestions on here. I agree with most of the comments and @Wicket329 is so on the money. Once you hit TB, unless you are pushing for masters the value from war is questionable for the effort.

So what's the solution? Should it just be a game mode for the top 300?

I've thought before that they could do a tournament, which any Alliance can enter, but frankly is going to be a 3/45 6* nightmare, so really aimed at the elite and whales.

Everyone else could then enter either max 4* or max 5* / 2/35 6* war brackets, possibly with scaled rewards based on alliance prestige like AQ is, but with a lot less of the nightmare nodes. How incursions is a fun mode, AW could be that too. And the cap on 4* or 5* introduces an element of difficulty control. Maybe even have forced diversity too for lols.

Anyway, just a suggestion to add to the mix, of course they will ignore this and every other suggestion made, but it at least keeps an interesting thread going.

And @danielmath , that comment made me laugh out loud! :-)