Stealthy is Overrated

4,5 and 6 aren't good points at all.
Just because another champion has it shouldn't take anything away from the character. I believe Stealthy has the longest slow in the game and people use him mainly to counter unstoppable not evade. Additionally in most fights, using one sp1 and then cycling through sp3 is good enough for damage or you can use a single sp2 for a long slow or something for utility which makes him kinda suicide friendly but I agree that he is a glass canon.
I also agree that he is kinda overrated and is not close to top 3 skill especially with Falcon around.

Agent_X_zzz

I don't consider him top 3 skill, but he is for sure top 5. Squishy? no problem get good / practice intercepting. How does a full combo to stop evade useless? and why are u using a 5 hit combo, use his sp2 for the longer slow to keep it up constantly, he is suicide friendly as you only need to use 1 sp2 in the fight if you play him correctly.

"He has unstoppable" . He has no access to unstoppable at all, he can COUNTER unstoppable which is great, you also failed to mention cap IW nullify does not work for nullify immune or passive unstoppable like aspect of war where stealthy will work or thing where stealthy will work, but cap won't work. He also has a miss counter which is fantastic for stuff like tunnel vision.

1. Intercepting is a thing.
2. Slow is mainly designed to stop unstoppable
3. He’s an above average evade counter, no one thinks he’s the best evade counter
4. He doesn’t have unstoppable...?
5. Yes you can.
6. Actually only need to 1 sp1 and one sp2 to ramp up, the sp2 can be skipped a lot of the time. (I’m summoning @Karatemike415 because he can explain that better than me)
You’re also forgetting that he counters miss and has non contact attacks, both solid pieces of his utility.

I can even call him an electro counter because of these non contact attacks, am I right domino simps?

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ThatGuyYouSaw235

1) you don't purposefully block when playing Stealthy, he's not a parry heavy champ. Also the skill related argument is stupid, well yeah if you're forced to block that's going to hurt you, that's like saying Quake is bad because if you can't time the heavy charges then you'll get clapped.

2) I see where you're coming with this one, but you can easy get around with this by just (I'll admit slowly) inching your way to the sp2

3)hey he has unstoppable and miss countering as well, plus if you don't have either of the two you can use him

4)you do you, but just because you prefer one champ over the other does not make the other champion bad by any means

5)again, just because you prefer one champ over the other does not make the other champ bad by any means, also miss countering

6) Doom doesn't fare well with suicides but he's still what a lot of people consider to be an all time Top 5 champion

Masterpuff

1. Intercepting is a thing.
2. Slow is mainly designed to stop unstoppable
3. He’s an above average evade counter, no one thinks he’s the best evade counter
4. He doesn’t have unstoppable...?
5. Yes you can.
6. Actually only need to 1 sp1 and one sp2 to ramp up, the sp2 can be skipped a lot of the time. (I’m summoning Karatemike415 because he can explain that better than me)
You’re also forgetting that he counters miss and has non contact attacks, both solid pieces of his utility.

I can even call him an electro counter because of these non contact attacks, am I right domino simps?

I love me a good Stealthy beating But Edeuink is right^

This dude just said Starky counters evade, and argues that Stealthy requires a combo to counter evade

I never knew Starky could counter evade but personally, I think Starky's utilities are niche. Taunt and auto evade are great, I'll give him that.

Nah01

I agree that Steathy seems a bit overrated. He doesn't even hit that hard to me, many champs hit harder. And his mechanic to stop unstoppable seems a bit complicated to me and pretty hard to maintain in long fight. For example She Hulk can do same thing a lot easier, Symbiote Supreme can do it in his sleep.

Agent_X_zzz

This dude just said Starky counters evade, and argues that Stealthy requires a combo to counter evade
I never knew Starky could counter evade but personally, I think Starky's utilities are niche. Taunt and auto evade are great, I'll give him that.

its off his sp3 which lasts 18 seconds, preventing all passive evades, stealthies evade counter is far superior.

This dude just said Starky counters evade, and argues that Stealthy requires a combo to counter evade
I never knew Starky could counter evade but personally, I think Starky's utilities are niche. Taunt and auto evade are great, I'll give him that.
its off his sp3 which lasts 18 seconds, preventing all passive evades, stealthies evade counter is far superior.

Ahh yes, forgot about that. It's quite impractical to build to an sp3 to counter evade for 18 secs especially since he is a glass canon too.

Putang76

He’s aight

ThatGuyYouSaw235

This dude just said Starky counters evade, and argues that Stealthy requires a combo to counter evade
I never knew Starky could counter evade but personally, I think Starky's utilities are niche. Taunt and auto evade are great, I'll give him that.
its off his sp3 which lasts 18 seconds, preventing all passive evades, stealthies evade counter is far superior.

stealthy can proc his sp2 in tight matchups and the opponent will never evade again

starky can proc his sp3 in tight matchups and the opponent will never evade.... for 18 seconds

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To those bringing up the skill argument up on him being a glass cannon, don’t act like intercepting is easy to do. The majority playing the game aren’t as good to *consistently* do it . It’s like saying Tigras one of the best champs, but who can actually even play her besides a select few?

My STRONGEST point was the one about him having drastically less utility than Falcon.

You’re not going to use stealthy for evade champs when champs like Quake, Fury, Falcon exist.

Go use stealthy versus mix master korg then use falcon,and come back to this thread.

Like I said , slow champs can handle unstoppable as well. What if the champ has both regen and unstoppable? Well, just bring beardo and throw a tech on the team. Boom, just like that beardos already better for that particular matchup.

With the release of Falcon, Stealthy has been powercrept and is relying just barely on that unstoppable counter to stay in the meta, in which other champs can also handle.

Agent_X_zzz

To those bringing up the skill argument up on him being a glass cannon, don’t act like intercepting is easy to do. The majority playing the game aren’t as good to *consistently* do it . It’s like saying Tigras one of the best champs, but who can actually even play her besides a select few?

My STRONGEST point was the one about him having drastically less utility than Falcon.

You’re not going to use stealthy for evade champs when champs like Quake, Fury, Falcon exist.

Go use stealthy versus mix master korg then use falcon,and come back to this thread.

Like I said , slow champs can handle unstoppable as well. What if the champ has both regen and unstoppable? Well, just bring beardo and throw a tech on the team. Boom, just like that beardos already better for that particular matchup.

With the release of Falcon, Stealthy has been powercrept and is relying just barely on that unstoppable counter to stay in the meta, in which other champs can also handle.

Intercepting is easy once you practice enough,

"You're not going to use Stealthy in evade matchups where Quake, Fury, Falcon exist." You gonna pretend like abyss isin't going to exist?

Who uses Stealthy or Falcon for mix masher korg lol both of them are not even close to being a top 5 option for mix masher korg, so why make the comparision.

Again like I said, unstoppable + regen is not a typical matchup, and stealthy will likely outdamage the regen, and stealthy counters unstoppable far better, since Cap IWs counts as a nullify and does not effect passives.

You also continue to forget stealthy has a fantastic miss counter.

slacker

Let's breakdown:
1) You only care about block prof if the champ's gameplay is parry-heavy which Stealthy isn't
2) A combo up to 4-5 hit to counter evade in a whole fight, is that really a problem ?
3) Yeah sure, Falcon and Nick better except unstopable say hi and some miss nodes
4) Passive Unstopable: Am i a joke to you ?
5) He's only need a combo to place slow for whole fight and Class disadvantage say hello
6) If you play suicide 1 sp2 and 1sp1 and it's all done, just rotate sp3
Stealthy's utility is much more useful than Starky because he counter miss, evade, unstopable which are super annoy to deal with, Starky has more damage but Stealthy is super easy access to damage which is not so less than Starky

Stealthy also counters miss and is a better unstoppable counter than beardo. Evade counter is alright and far from useless.

I can even call him an electro counter because of these non contact attacks, am I right domino simps?

Domino has dot which stealthy doesn't so they are not the same vs electro.

I can even call him an electro counter because of these non contact attacks, am I right domino simps?
Domino has dot which stealthy doesn't so they are not the same vs electro.

Moon Knight has DoT and his special 1 is non contact, best electro counter confirmed 👍

I can even call him an electro counter because of these non contact attacks, am I right domino simps?
Domino has dot which stealthy doesn't so they are not the same vs electro.
Moon Knight has DoT and his special 1 is non contact, best electro counter confirmed 👍

I would love to see him counter v4 electro.

I can even call him an electro counter because of these non contact attacks, am I right domino simps?
Domino has dot which stealthy doesn't so they are not the same vs electro.
Moon Knight has DoT and his special 1 is non contact, best electro counter confirmed 👍
I would love to see him counter v4 electro.

Well, it certainly would be possible. A sig 200 Moon Knight can increase his power rate by about 30%. Slap on a romance synergy and the namor synergy and you should be able to cycle sp1s. It’s probably doable with max DW. I don’t know anyone with a sig 200 Moon Knight though🙁

ThatGuyYouSaw235

To those bringing up the skill argument up on him being a glass cannon, don’t act like intercepting is easy to do. The majority playing the game aren’t as good to *consistently* do it . It’s like saying Tigras one of the best champs, but who can actually even play her besides a select few?

My STRONGEST point was the one about him having drastically less utility than Falcon.

You’re not going to use stealthy for evade champs when champs like Quake, Fury, Falcon exist.

Go use stealthy versus mix master korg then use falcon,and come back to this thread.

Like I said , slow champs can handle unstoppable as well. What if the champ has both regen and unstoppable? Well, just bring beardo and throw a tech on the team. Boom, just like that beardos already better for that particular matchup.

With the release of Falcon, Stealthy has been powercrept and is relying just barely on that unstoppable counter to stay in the meta, in which other champs can also handle.

So what you're saying by that argument is that Quake is bad because she requires skill to get it down right.

Well yeah I'd use Fury or Falcon over Stealthy for an evade matchup, but Stealthy also has Miss Countering and Unstoppable countering as well so that's that.

Okay, you still haven't realised that if you believe one champ could do another champ's job better they don't automatically suck. Well yeah, if a champ has regen and unstoppable that could be a pickle but Stealthy also has good damage to the point where in some matchups you could outdamage the regen where with Cap you need to pray that you can get 4 successive parries off on the opponent.

And nah, Falcon didn't sweep Stealthy off his place as being a great skill champ in the meta because for one, the Skill class doesn't really have as much competition as other classes and you wouldn't really use Falcon if you need damage in a non-evade matchup.

I can even call him an electro counter because of these non contact attacks, am I right domino simps?
Domino has dot which stealthy doesn't so they are not the same vs electro.
Moon Knight has DoT and his special 1 is non contact, best electro counter confirmed 👍
I would love to see him counter v4 electro.
Well, it certainly would be possible. A sig 200 Moon Knight can increase his power rate by about 30%. Slap on a romance synergy and the namor synergy and you should be able to cycle sp1s. It’s probably doable with max DW. I don’t know anyone with a sig 200 Moon Knight though🙁

Yeah making theories is very good. In practicality it is a different thing. Moon knight doesn't have the damage to do it and all his basic attacks would get thorns damage so no.

I can even call him an electro counter because of these non contact attacks, am I right domino simps?
Domino has dot which stealthy doesn't so they are not the same vs electro.
Moon Knight has DoT and his special 1 is non contact, best electro counter confirmed 👍
I would love to see him counter v4 electro.
Well, it certainly would be possible. A sig 200 Moon Knight can increase his power rate by about 30%. Slap on a romance synergy and the namor synergy and you should be able to cycle sp1s. It’s probably doable with max DW. I don’t know anyone with a sig 200 Moon Knight though🙁
Yeah making theories is very good. In practicality it is a different thing. Moon knight doesn't have the damage to do it and all his basic attacks would get thorns damage so no.

Well in ideal circumstances this would be during a full moon. That would allow Moon Knight to apply stuns to electro. He could bypass some of the thorns damage with the pacify mastery.

I can even call him an electro counter because of these non contact attacks, am I right domino simps?
Domino has dot which stealthy doesn't so they are not the same vs electro.
Moon Knight has DoT and his special 1 is non contact, best electro counter confirmed 👍
I would love to see him counter v4 electro.
Well, it certainly would be possible. A sig 200 Moon Knight can increase his power rate by about 30%. Slap on a romance synergy and the namor synergy and you should be able to cycle sp1s. It’s probably doable with max DW. I don’t know anyone with a sig 200 Moon Knight though🙁
Yeah making theories is very good. In practicality it is a different thing. Moon knight doesn't have the damage to do it and all his basic attacks would get thorns damage so no.
Well in ideal circumstances this would be during a full moon. That would allow Moon Knight to apply stuns to electro. He could bypass some of the thorns damage with the pacify mastery.

This moon phase thing has so much potential but it's so weak that it's useless. Hope they buff him soon.

Killswitch01

To those bringing up the skill argument up on him being a glass cannon, don’t act like intercepting is easy to do. The majority playing the game aren’t as good to *consistently* do it . It’s like saying Tigras one of the best champs, but who can actually even play her besides a select few?

My STRONGEST point was the one about him having drastically less utility than Falcon.

You’re not going to use stealthy for evade champs when champs like Quake, Fury, Falcon exist.

Go use stealthy versus mix master korg then use falcon,and come back to this thread.

Like I said , slow champs can handle unstoppable as well. What if the champ has both regen and unstoppable? Well, just bring beardo and throw a tech on the team. Boom, just like that beardos already better for that particular matchup.

With the release of Falcon, Stealthy has been powercrept and is relying just barely on that unstoppable counter to stay in the meta, in which other champs can also handle.

I mean I've used stealthy in mix master node once(it wasn't very convenient 😂). The trick is to get the four light hit combos in within the parry stun time... It's pretty tight meaning u won't start with a medium hit...
I've done it only once😂😂 and it was when I was down to my last champion... I pretty much entered ultra instinct😂😂

To those bringing up the skill argument up on him being a glass cannon, don’t act like intercepting is easy to do. The majority playing the game aren’t as good to *consistently* do it . It’s like saying Tigras one of the best champs, but who can actually even play her besides a select few?

My STRONGEST point was the one about him having drastically less utility than Falcon.

You’re not going to use stealthy for evade champs when champs like Quake, Fury, Falcon exist.

Go use stealthy versus mix master korg then use falcon,and come back to this thread.

Like I said , slow champs can handle unstoppable as well. What if the champ has both regen and unstoppable? Well, just bring beardo and throw a tech on the team. Boom, just like that beardos already better for that particular matchup.

With the release of Falcon, Stealthy has been powercrept and is relying just barely on that unstoppable counter to stay in the meta, in which other champs can also handle.

I mean I've used stealthy in mix master node once(it wasn't very convenient 😂). The trick is to get the four light hit combos in within the parry stun time... It's pretty tight meaning u won't start with a medium hit...
I've done it only once😂😂 and it was when I was down to my last champion... I pretty much entered ultra instinct😂😂

I also used him on mix master and what I did was do a medium,light,light then opponent evades the third light and then I drop the fourth light without stopping my combo. Though I don't think it's safe.