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Juggernaut's Unstoppable Not Nullified

plsleavemealoneplsleavemealone Posts: 3
in Bugs and Known Issues
I'm trying to get uncollected, and I'm on Act 5.2.2. There's a Juggernaut on path C that I'm using my Beardo to fight. I've fought him twice (had to back out the first time) and both times I tried to hit him with at least 2 kinetic potential when he wasn't blocking, his unstoppable just stayed. Both times got me a combo that KO'd me. Is this something that has to do with the node, or is this a bug?

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    Legendary_PoeyLegendary_Poey Posts: 209 ★
    Were you trying to punish his heavy?
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    plsleavemealoneplsleavemealone Posts: 3
    Legendary_Poey said:

    Were you trying to punish his heavy?

    Nope, he was open and wasn't attacking.
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    Rocket528Rocket528 Posts: 18 ★
    This has actually happened to me many times with cap IW as well, but it happens infrequently
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    winterthurwinterthur Posts: 7,767 ★★★★★
    edited February 2021
    I tried fighting Juggernaut on that node.

    There are two unstoppables, one from the node Heavy-Hitter (Heavy Attacks are not interrupted) and his own ability.

    With CAIW, I can remove the Unstoppable generated from his own ability (provided CAIW has a kinetic potential) but not the Unstoppable from his heavy attack animation.



    Are you attacking into Juggernaut with the icon showing the white top and bottom "border" ?
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    Grootman1294Grootman1294 Posts: 864 ★★★★
    There is a passive unstoppable in play here. Cap only nullifies buffs.
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    Prakhar_82Prakhar_82 Posts: 713 ★★★
    Exactly, the unstoppable he gets from heavy hitter node is passive. Cap IW can't nulify it. (Just wait a second and don't directly go in after he heavies)
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    plsleavemealoneplsleavemealone Posts: 3
    winterthur said:

    I tried fighting Juggernaut on that node.

    Are you attacking into Juggernaut with the icon showing the white top and bottom "border" ?

    I was very sure not to attack him after a heavy, and both times were after specials (from his ability). It’s just weird and I wish I recorded it, but I didn’t think it would happen twice.

    Thanks for helping out, everyone. I just quaked him in the end. I rarely ever run into problems where Cap doesn’t nullify the buff, but twice on the same node was strange.
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    winterthurwinterthur Posts: 7,767 ★★★★★
    edited February 2021
    Found an app to slow down the recording.

    This is removing Juggernaut's Unstoppable.





    This is removing Juggernaut's Unstoppable but not the node from Heavy-Hitter.





    Juggernaut retaliates.



    Hope it helps.

    I am so poor using Quake.
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    Dr_Z01dbergDr_Z01dberg Posts: 512 ★★★
    winterthur said:

    Found an app to slow down the recording.

    This is removing Juggernaut's Unstoppable.





    This is removing Juggernaut's Unstoppable but not the node from Heavy-Hitter.





    Juggernaut retaliates.



    Hope it helps.

    I am so poor using Quake.

    You can’t nullify the unstoppable from his heavy attack as it’s passive. In the first screenshot he only has 1 unstoppable icon with a solid border which shows it’s a buff, which cap can deal with.

    In the third screenshot you can see he has 2 unstoppable icons, the buff and the passive (no border) as he is throwing a heavy attack. You can’t nullify a passive effect so your only nullifying the buff (in the 4th screenshot you can see he is left with 1 icon)

    You need to wait out the passive effect before going in and you should be fine
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