It is time for Thronebreaker crystals....

To be perfectly honest, cavalier crystals are dead for Thronebreakers. I haven't bought one in months and months and months. A majority of Thronebreakers don't need 3*s, 4*s or really even 5*s and are mainly focused on 6*s. With such a massive 6* pool, there is absolutely no real reason to even consider them(except for youtubers)! It is time for a Thronebreaker crystal with improved 6* and 5* chances, and only 4*s as a misses. Frankly most Thronebreakers consider 5*s as a miss. Is it time for Kabam to introduce a much upgraded Thronebreaker crystal?

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Crcrcrc

That would have to be either 750 units or not come out until the next title. The drop rates would be incredibly OP.

Dreanica

Soooo, when we had grandmaster crystals, cavalier crystals were op when they came out?

Dreanica

I'm not saying 50% chance at a 6*, but something more compelling.

Crcrcrc

Soooo, when we had grandmaster crystals, cavalier crystals were op when they came out?

No, because they had the same worst prize of 3*s

Crcrcrc

I'm not saying 50% chance at a 6*, but something more compelling.

If we had 3 total prize options, the 5* chance would be insanely high, like 30%, and 5*s are still usable in the newest content in the game.

Dreanica

Even if they kept 3*s because (iso :-O) a 30+28+25+17 split would be more interesting then what they are now

Thicco_Mode

they're probably hesitant since there's a massive jump between 3* and 4*

DNA3000

Even if they kept 3*s because (iso :-O) a 30+28+25+17 split would be more interesting then what they are now

And hypothetically speaking what would you expect such a crystal with those odds to cost?

Pulyaman

Faster 6 stars means faster 7 stars. The race begins again. I would probably quit.

Dreanica

Not saying kabam would use those exact percentages. I'm sure much lower. But exclusively for Thronebreakers.

DNA3000

Not saying kabam would use those exact percentages. I'm sure much lower. But exclusively for Thronebreakers.

The point is, the odds outside the context of cost and limitations is meaningless. The Abyss Nexus has a 100% chance for 6*, and about a 90% chance to get one of your top three choices. But it takes a lot of effort to get and you can only get it once. Its value is intended for that specific context. You can buy a literally unlimited number of Cavalier crystals. Its value is determined in large part by the fact that you can do that.

If the Thronebreaker crystal has a much higher chance to get a 6* champ the whales will shift to that crystal. They will be able to buy their way to the champs they want with less money. So the gap between the largest spenders and everyone else grows, while the amount of money they spend (and the game earns to support its existence) drops. For all that downside, there should be a gigantic upside, and I don't see it if the costs anywhere near the current cost of Cavalier crystals for any odds anywhere near the ones you mention.

Worknprogress

Yes, what a game where people constantly complain about spenders having a massive advantage with cav crystals needs, is an even better crystal to buy.

DNA3000

Yes, what a game where people constantly complain about spenders having a massive advantage with cav crystals needs, is an even better crystal to buy.

Cav crystals did go from being overwhelmingly broken to underwhelmingly irrelevant awfully fast.

And all while game revenue increased substantially. It is a mystery.

SkyLord7000

Their should definitely be more perks for TB

Epistriatus

Soon to be announced: throne breaker crystals......only available to summoners who are breaker of thrones.
Can’t wait to read the comment section for that announcement.

Hera1d_of_Ga1actus

when have these unit crystals ever been good. even when GMCs evolved from PHCs the value still wasn't fully there. don't ask for this stuff cause it'll only make this game die quicker

Texas_11

I wouldn’t mind a TB crystal if you could open one a week from the sigil at 500 Units or so , Kinda like the glory currently.

But having a crystal like that permanently for sale would surely ruin the game economy. Right now the odds are so low of actually acquiring the 6* from the cavs, I don’t think anyone except the top will spend 10k to get one champ.

However, on TB crystals you introduce 6* shard farming , 6* champ farming. This may not be an issue for the top players, it becomes an issue for those that just became TB and now can just farm what they need through money. A game shouldn’t have such a significant impact.

Giuliameij

The only real change I feel should come regarding crystals for Thronebreakers is a weekly cavalier crystal instead of every other week. The percentages aren`t that much higher. And it never really felt like an upgrade to me after opening a potential 5* every week.

Colinwhitworth69

I am at the point where 5-star pulls are mostly exciting for the shards.

A new TB crystal without 3-stars would be great.

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Worknprogress

Yes, what a game where people constantly complain about spenders having a massive advantage with cav crystals needs, is an even better crystal to buy.
Cav crystals did go from being overwhelmingly broken to underwhelmingly irrelevant awfully fast.

And all while game revenue increased substantially. It is a mystery.

Heck, I'm all for maintaining a roster advantage getting substantially cheaper personally. Anyone that thinks this would be a good move right now for the majority of the playerbase is fooling themselves though.

Pancake_Face

I would take 80% 4* 15% 5* 5% 6*. Basically you can get more shards for 5*s but its not too op i guess

Pulyaman

I would take 80% 4* 15% 5* 5% 6*. Basically you can get more shards for 5*s but its not too op i guess

The problem is you could just buy these things and rack up 5 star shards and iso. Which will only result in more 6 star champs in the game which will make the advent of 7 stars that much faster.

Bugmat78

I would think creating a TB crystal by shifting the odds in the cavalier crystals from 50% 3* to say 25-30% and putting that 20-25% in the 4 and 5* is worth an extra 50-100 units, and wouldn't break the game.

Maybe put an extra 0.001% on the 6* drops to bring it to 0.002%....

Pancake_Face

I would take 80% 4* 15% 5* 5% 6*. Basically you can get more shards for 5*s but its not too op i guess
The problem is you could just buy these things and rack up 5 star shards and iso. Which will only result in more 6 star champs in the game which will make the advent of 7 stars that much faster.

yea ik thats why I'm like on the fence because u know whales will whale on them

Texas_11

I would take 80% 4* 15% 5* 5% 6*. Basically you can get more shards for 5*s but its not too op i guess
The problem is you could just buy these things and rack up 5 star shards and iso. Which will only result in more 6 star champs in the game which will make the advent of 7 stars that much faster.

Exactly,
Maybe they could have done this if they made TB requirement for 100% abyss. There are people I know who are TB and haven’t done a single path in abyss.

Pulyaman

I would take 80% 4* 15% 5* 5% 6*. Basically you can get more shards for 5*s but its not too op i guess
The problem is you could just buy these things and rack up 5 star shards and iso. Which will only result in more 6 star champs in the game which will make the advent of 7 stars that much faster.
Exactly,
Maybe they could have done this if they made TB requirement for 100% abyss. There are people I know who are TB and haven’t done a single path in abyss.

I am not sure 100% abyss is relevant in terms of game progress.100 % act 6 should have been the requirement. Act 6 100% requires more counters and a well developed roster. Also, Abyss is a side content like variant. It should not be mandatory to do just like LOL.

The_Sentry06

Maybe introduce it as the calendar rewards or something instead of buyable crystals or add some limit per month. TB crystals may or may need to be introduced but IMO, TB needs more perks.

Xva23

I'd be ok with 4 to 6 stars in an updated crystal. Would solve my iso problem atleast

Texas_11

I would take 80% 4* 15% 5* 5% 6*. Basically you can get more shards for 5*s but its not too op i guess
The problem is you could just buy these things and rack up 5 star shards and iso. Which will only result in more 6 star champs in the game which will make the advent of 7 stars that much faster.
Exactly,
Maybe they could have done this if they made TB requirement for 100% abyss. There are people I know who are TB and haven’t done a single path in abyss.
I am not sure 100% abyss is relevant in terms of game progress.100 % act 6 should have been the requirement. Act 6 100% requires more counters and a well developed roster. Also, Abyss is a side content like variant. It should not be mandatory to do just like LOL.

It’s very relevant, it’s actually a very integral part of the prestige race and holds valuable resources not available anywhere else in game. Because they have shifted away from act 6 and act 7 being profession based content , it would make sense that abyss 100% would be required. In fact, you have people who are now so deep into the game they still haven’t completed act 6 and are TB. They just run 7x5 and do cav and are good to go.

Kabam didn’t want players having 6* R3 champs trying to 100% act 6 with them. Obviously, that will happen sooner than later like all games. A perfect example of this is how irrelevant LOL has become., The resources are so abundant it doesn’t make sense for a progressing player to try to 100% it.

Having TB significantly lowered to just one 6* R3 champ instead of 100% abyss, let’s me know they are focused on capturing a larger group, while turning to maintain the integrity of the game.

To sum up my point , and our discussion. They can’t do TB crystals because the entry to become TB is a lot lower, you would have people ranking up any champ just to get their hands on TB crystals and progress them past the point they should be, which can reduce a games life significantly.

If you watched any New account starts between Legacy and BG , you can see how quickly someone can progress within a week. That’s without TB.