Is Kabam now extremely conservative with all new and buffed champions.

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Notsavage19

But why do we need to break the ghost/quake meta?

If "better" champions are released, the "meta" would shift towards the higher end, meaning that there would be a greater difference in usability between the duds like Joe Fixit and characters like Quake. Not to mention that topping the utility of Quake is extremely hard to do without being (even more) game-breaking. However, Kabam has recognized that Quake is a dominating force in the game since she is able to clear a variety of different content to an extent that is arguably unrivaled by other champions and is thus changing how content and champions are made.

What I'm trying to say is although Quake and Ghost are dominating the "meta" right now, there isn't a need for champions to be even MORE proficient in terms of higher damage numbers or being able to clear more content. However, a better change to limit the difference between the usability of characters would be to make the top characters less effective in content overall and to make the bottom champions more useful, both of which they are doing.

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Masterpuff

Im fine with it. But i havent been excited for a champion since Ham(kinda) and Ibom. Buffed Moleman/Terrax are awesome, as is kingpin, crossbones(it seems), but new champs have been... Underwhelming.

DrZola

I would challenge the view that top champs have been very static. I neither Quake nor Ghost (although both of mine are R5) and I’ve enjoyed champs like CGR, Doom, Claire, CMM, Nick, Apoc (plus the long list of great Horsemen), Warlock, all of which I consider to be top tier and in some cases far more useful than Ghost or Quake.

Add in Hypo, CapIW, Stealth Spidey, Aegon, Torch and others...if you are simply using Quake and Ghost for everything you are depriving yourself of a lot of fun.

Dr. Zola

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dot_ditto

I think it's better to release champs that "below the bar" at first ... and then bring them up to the bar . "slowly" ... carefully..

It has many benefits ..

1) doesn't upset balance of the game ..
2) gives time for people to get used to animations/ etc of new champs before they become "meta"
3) gives chance for everyone to see how they play (if at all) and how where exactly to buff them.
4) reduced issues of "OMG you nerfed my champ, I want compensation" outcries ...

I don't blame them .. it's a better business model than releasing OP champs and then having to take the nerf bat to them later.

2021 champs have kicked off very meh, but if you look back, the same applied to the 2020 champs in the first 3 months. As the year progresses, I'm sure we're going to get more and more awesome champions like Apocalypse/CGR/Prof X.

As for the buffed champions, I very much disagree. I think people are being way too harsh on Kabam for the buffs. Literally every champion that has been buffed in this new buff system has become a better champion. Yes, not every champion will be top tier, but they are all improvements of their previous forms. And some of the recent buffs have been awesome, like Mole Man, Kingpin, and Angela, to name a few.

The_Sentry06

Meant to click the Conservative but fine with it option.

New champions have been underwhelming but Kabam always starts the year of not too well. The only exception is 2019 I think although that still had Diablo or Annihilus, not sure.

Buffs have also been great but nothing "Mags" level and I'm fine with that. I don't think anyone can deny that previously, the buffs had much more "impact" for example Magneto, Colossus, HB, Venom. So, in a sense, the buffs have been more Conservative. But that's not to say they have been bad, the recent buffs have been absolutely banging from the start of this program and hence, I'm fine with it.

Well, it would not be a buff if there were no improvements. Some of the champions were so bad that there was no possible way to but up. I agree that the buffs have been good somewhat. I just wish Kabam would keep the core mechanics like they promised they would after the Hood debacle. Angela - Not sure how her buff is awesome, she was mediocre before and she is mediocre now. DDHK, Kingpin - Solid buff for Kingpin, good one for DDHK. Yellow jacket - He had no use before, he is usable in some niche situations now. We need to see the other buffs to be live so that we can test and learn their uses. Mole-man - Solid increase in utility and damage. Terrax - Defender before, defender now.

To conclude - Champions don't excite me as much as they did before. It could be because of no new useful content to use them on. So, once variant 7 and act 7.2 comes, we may get a little more excitement.

How in the world is being 100% resistant to all the debuffs in the game mediocre? Angela is undisputably an elite champion now, for the SOLE reason of that insanely powerful ability. It doesn't matter if you like her or not, being able to take 0 damage from all debuffs is incredibly powerful. She is not mediocre in the slightest.

All of the buffs recently have made the champions better, and most of the buffs have resulted in those champions being used a whole lot more.

She is not resistant to all debuffs, she reduces the duration depending on the number of buffs you have. Her ability on paper is amazing, but she needs full sig to use it well and to maintain 3 buffs through out the whole match. Same with the autoblock bypass.

It doesn't matter to me if you like her too, it's a niche utility that may be used somewhere in the future content. If I wanted to avoid a debuff , I would simply take a immune champ. I don't suddenly see a bunch of videos using Angela in so many situations. If you like her so much, show us your 5/65 or at least a 2/35 Angela.

Shadowstrike

I would prefer that they keep the Buffs conservative because that way later on there is still something to add onto if they feel it's necessary. And eventually it will be necessary.

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KoopaKrusher

Considering the aggressive buff schedule, I don't think it's a terrible idea to release underwhelming champions with the intention of value-only buffing them in the near future. The contest is a constant battle between the players trying to beat content and kabam trying to keep challenging players. If kabam releases a champ and the players find a synergy and/or node combination that the champ clears easily, kabam no longer has that in its arsenal for challenging players.

That's not to say kabam should stop making god-tier champs. But I think with champs like Odin who interact with a lot of other champs, kabam was afraid players would find a cheat code of sorts that broke the game. It doesn't look like we've done that (and kabam took away stacking Odin's prefight) so it's safe for them to buff Odin in the near future to make his base kit a lot stronger

Then sig her up? That's like saying because Namor and Aegon need high sig, they're less valuable. She reduces the duration of debuffs by 100%, meaning she is 100% resistant to the normal duration of debuffs. You don't need to bring an immune champ, as she can handle all damaging debuffs.

It's not niche in the slightest, that's like saying Colossus' immunities are niche, leaving him with no utility. Immunities/resistances are not niche. My 5 star Angela would be r5 sig 182 if I could awaken her.

She reduces the duration of buffs when she has 3 buffs at max sig. That is the full text. You take her to 5/65 and full sig and start using her and then we can see how useful she is. I have yet to see a person who says they will take Angela to rank 3 at low sig.

I would not max my Namor without max sig. Namor also has prestige to consider. Do you see Namor being used anywhere now? That is why he has been pushed to a prestige rank up. Namor as a champion is a niche rank up to tackle damage reflect fights and I don't see people using him anywhere else.

I never said resistances and immunities are niche. Omega red is one of my favorite champs. He has bleed resistance out of the box. Colossus has bleed immunity out of the box. Take Rogue, she gains 70% reduced duration to all debuffs out of the box.Angela needs to gain 3 buffs at max sig before she can get that 100% reduction you talk about. At any rate, resistances/immunities are better than reduced duration any day. That is why people don't get suture.

You can talk her up anyway you want, but Angela is just as useful as she was in most rosters before the buff as she is after the buff.

Have you never faced any content that includes any damage back, whether its from thorns abilities or DOT?? Namor and Angela's sig abilities are both amazing, and both worth maxing. And getting 3 buffs is incredibly easy for Angela, it takes 1 combo. One. That's 5 hits. Super easy.

No one's ever gassing up Angela at low sig. Do you not get it? I'm talking about a high sig Angela, not a low one. There's a reason you don't see many r3 Cap IW's, as his prestige is meh and he needs max sig. It doesn't make him less of a champion.

As for your final point, that's simply not true at all. Before the buff, Angela had nearly no utility. Now, she has amazing utility. Arguably the strongest utility in the entire cosmic class. Full resistance to all debuffs, can parry projectiles, full autoblock counter, and full nullify counter. Amazing utility. You need to take another look at her.

Etjama

Lmao, just sig up Angela and you're practically immune to all damaging debuffs like 10 seconds into the fight. She's got so many uses and is so much more useful than she was before. Do you just not know how she works? Or is a high sig requirement just too much for you? Either way, saying that she's just as useful as she was pre-buff is absolutely ridiculous.

Parrying projectiles - Reparry exists. Autoblock counter, nullify counter - needs 3 buffs. Resistance to debuffs - It's reduced duration - big difference. People talking her up really need to show me where you have used her and not spout data from the spotlight. Something may be great on paper, but not in practice.

I am asking you the same thing as I did before, show me some gameplay where you or anyone else uses her after the buff. Even Brian Grant took her up against Sinister and he struggled with IMIW in that path. You know why? She lost her 3 buffs and could not prevent autoblock. I am not talking without playing her or having seen gameplay.

You have your views and I have mine mate. We can agree to disagree. She was a good addition to the game, but a very conservative one that is not wowing anyone soon.

Fastastheflash

U do realize it takes like 5 seconds to get 3 buffs right? And even at sig 100 it ontly akes like 10 seconds to get there. If u think she shucks, u should reevaluate ur game decisions

Agent_X_zzz

Here is an example Angela vs caltrops

I never said she was useless. But she cannot counter caltrops right out of the block. In that regard, I would rate rogue better than her.

Agent_X_zzz

LOL it takes like a combo to get 3 buffs which you can do easily. Then no more bleed for rest of the fight, with rogue the bleed will be on her for 30% of the duration which will deal a decent amount of dmg overtime.

who hurt you

idk what you have against angela but math says that 100%>70%

I have nothing against Angela. I was excited for her buff just as anyone and I like that she is improved. But, this notion that she has become a utility monster is what I don't agree on. I would rate rogue better than Angela, you know why? I can actually play the whole match without dashing back.
To my point, I was not going to use her for caltrops before, and not going to use her now either. Why would I when I can just as well take an immune champ?