Auto-Evade Activating While Stunned

I've had this, auto-evade activating while the champ is stunned, happen to me while fighting against both Spiderman (classic) and Nightcrawler. I've also had it happen in my favor while using Nightcrawler in arena. I was stunned by opponent, but Nightcrawler's evade still kicked in.

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Dexman1349

I've noticed the timers lag by a split second. The timer will still be visible (maybe 5% left) but the AI has already started to act (block/evade/attack/etc). Now, if the timer has less than 20% left I don't even bother attacking because by the time my champ dashes, the AI will be able to move.

Athothton

It has happened with nearly full stun timer. In the case where I was using NC in arena I'd say timer was at 75%. It saved me from losing a tough fight trying to get my streak in that case, but has cost me fights too. I get the timer running out while dashing, but these are cases of near full timers.

Jaded

They have passive evade even under stun unless you have the pacify mastery. But even with that mastery it’s only a chance to stop them from evading. Ie 30% if the mastery is maxed out.

cUbA_LiBrE

Never had this problem. While stunned, both never evaded.

BDLH

Jaded wrote: »

They have passive evade even under stun unless you have the pacify mastery. But even with that mastery it’s only a chance to stop them from evading. Ie 30% if the mastery is maxed out.

completely incorrect. We have been clearing wars for over a year killing stunnable evade champs parry-MM or MLM style depending on limber for well over a year. Most abilities can trigger while stunned (armor up, regen, fury, Limbo), but NOT evade. Not once, ever, in the history of AW. You can watch through hours of the tier1 streams and never see this or just play the game yourself and notice that this does not happen. Pacify has been an anti-Magik trick used forever, but it does not apply to NC.

RedRooster

I just picked up Iceman and one of the first amusing things I had happen was hitting NC with my SP2 Well... half of it.

The first part nailed him while he was parry stunned. He was then frozen in the beatdown position and evaded out of the second half of the special while in the frozen pose.

Visually comical to say the least.

cUbA_LiBrE

RedRooster wrote: »

I just picked up Iceman and one of the first amusing things I had happen was hitting NC with my SP2 Well... half of it.

The first part nailed him while he was parry stunned. He was then frozen in the beatdown position and evaded out of the second half of the special while in the frozen pose.

Visually comical to say the least.

The SP2 is a little odd. DareDevil Classic is also evading the second part while he is obvious frozen. I would recommend using SP1 (parry first). The applied Cold Snap is preventing all auto evades.

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Jaded

BDLH wrote: »

Jaded wrote: »

They have passive evade even under stun unless you have the pacify mastery. But even with that mastery it’s only a chance to stop them from evading. Ie 30% if the mastery is maxed out.

completely incorrect. We have been clearing wars for over a year killing stunnable evade champs parry-MM or MLM style depending on limber for well over a year. Most abilities can trigger while stunned (armor up, regen, fury, Limbo), but NOT evade. Not once, ever, in the history of AW. You can watch through hours of the tier1 streams and never see this or just play the game yourself and notice that this does not happen. Pacify has been an anti-Magik trick used forever, but it does not apply to NC.

Then you have no idea what you’re playing. Auto evade champs have a chance to evade even while stunned UNLESS you have pacify mastery. Then it’s a reduced chance. Auto evade champs have a % chance to evade ANY hit regardless stunned or not. Perhaps time for you to learn the game you play.

AxeCopFire

Jaded wrote: »

BDLH wrote: »

Jaded wrote: »

They have passive evade even under stun unless you have the pacify mastery. But even with that mastery it’s only a chance to stop them from evading. Ie 30% if the mastery is maxed out.

completely incorrect. We have been clearing wars for over a year killing stunnable evade champs parry-MM or MLM style depending on limber for well over a year. Most abilities can trigger while stunned (armor up, regen, fury, Limbo), but NOT evade. Not once, ever, in the history of AW. You can watch through hours of the tier1 streams and never see this or just play the game yourself and notice that this does not happen. Pacify has been an anti-Magik trick used forever, but it does not apply to NC.

Then you have no idea what you’re playing. Auto evade champs have a chance to evade even while stunned UNLESS you have pacify mastery. Then it’s a reduced chance. Auto evade champs have a % chance to evade ANY hit regardless stunned or not. Perhaps time for you to learn the game you play.

Wrong. Stop spreading false information. Stunnned enemies with passive evade such as Spider-Man or Nightcrawler do not evade under any circumstances.

Jaded

AxeCopFire wrote: »

Jaded wrote: »

BDLH wrote: »

Jaded wrote: »

They have passive evade even under stun unless you have the pacify mastery. But even with that mastery it’s only a chance to stop them from evading. Ie 30% if the mastery is maxed out.

completely incorrect. We have been clearing wars for over a year killing stunnable evade champs parry-MM or MLM style depending on limber for well over a year. Most abilities can trigger while stunned (armor up, regen, fury, Limbo), but NOT evade. Not once, ever, in the history of AW. You can watch through hours of the tier1 streams and never see this or just play the game yourself and notice that this does not happen. Pacify has been an anti-Magik trick used forever, but it does not apply to NC.

Then you have no idea what you’re playing. Auto evade champs have a chance to evade even while stunned UNLESS you have pacify mastery. Then it’s a reduced chance. Auto evade champs have a % chance to evade ANY hit regardless stunned or not. Perhaps time for you to learn the game you play.

Wrong. Stop spreading false information. Stunnned enemies do not evade under any circumstances.

Yes they do and can. It’s not a bug. That’s the defensive ability which can be reduced by many champs in the game now or pacify mastery. Once again go learn something about the game before thinking it’s a bug....you are embarrassing yourself with your lack of knowledge to the game.

AxeCopFire

Jaded wrote: »

AxeCopFire wrote: »

Jaded wrote: »

BDLH wrote: »

Jaded wrote: »

They have passive evade even under stun unless you have the pacify mastery. But even with that mastery it’s only a chance to stop them from evading. Ie 30% if the mastery is maxed out.

completely incorrect. We have been clearing wars for over a year killing stunnable evade champs parry-MM or MLM style depending on limber for well over a year. Most abilities can trigger while stunned (armor up, regen, fury, Limbo), but NOT evade. Not once, ever, in the history of AW. You can watch through hours of the tier1 streams and never see this or just play the game yourself and notice that this does not happen. Pacify has been an anti-Magik trick used forever, but it does not apply to NC.

Then you have no idea what you’re playing. Auto evade champs have a chance to evade even while stunned UNLESS you have pacify mastery. Then it’s a reduced chance. Auto evade champs have a % chance to evade ANY hit regardless stunned or not. Perhaps time for you to learn the game you play.

Wrong. Stop spreading false information. Stunnned enemies do not evade under any circumstances.

Yes they do and can. It’s not a bug. That’s the defensive ability which can be reduced by many champs in the game now or pacify mastery. Once again go learn something about the game before thinking it’s a bug....you are embarrassing yourself with your lack of knowledge to the game.

You are wrong. I never said anything about a bug. I said that it doesn't happen. You cearly have no idea what you are talking about. You have 2 options. Either post of video of this happening or stop posting in this thread

Jaded

AxeCopFire wrote: »

Jaded wrote: »

AxeCopFire wrote: »

Jaded wrote: »

BDLH wrote: »

Jaded wrote: »

They have passive evade even under stun unless you have the pacify mastery. But even with that mastery it’s only a chance to stop them from evading. Ie 30% if the mastery is maxed out.

completely incorrect. We have been clearing wars for over a year killing stunnable evade champs parry-MM or MLM style depending on limber for well over a year. Most abilities can trigger while stunned (armor up, regen, fury, Limbo), but NOT evade. Not once, ever, in the history of AW. You can watch through hours of the tier1 streams and never see this or just play the game yourself and notice that this does not happen. Pacify has been an anti-Magik trick used forever, but it does not apply to NC.

Then you have no idea what you’re playing. Auto evade champs have a chance to evade even while stunned UNLESS you have pacify mastery. Then it’s a reduced chance. Auto evade champs have a % chance to evade ANY hit regardless stunned or not. Perhaps time for you to learn the game you play.

Wrong. Stop spreading false information. Stunnned enemies do not evade under any circumstances.

Yes they do and can. It’s not a bug. That’s the defensive ability which can be reduced by many champs in the game now or pacify mastery. Once again go learn something about the game before thinking it’s a bug....you are embarrassing yourself with your lack of knowledge to the game.

You are wrong. You have 2 options. Either post of video of this happening or stop posting in this thread

Post of a video of a auto evade champ evading a attack while stunned with no pacify mastery or a defensive ability reduced champ used? I got better things to do in the game then prove it otherwise. You need to do more research before calling out champs using their defensive ability while stunned...

Auto evade champs CAN evade while stunned....not a bug. Show the bug in action which you can’t because you don’t know the game machanics work.

Edit: Regardless if you called it a bug or not. It CAN happen. Most people run with at least 1 point in pacify to unlock MD. So the odds of it happening a very low. But can happen because it’s a defensive ability of auto evade champs ie bw ultron nc Spider-Man etc...

AxeCopFire

Again, i never said anything about a bug. I have no idea why you even keep mentioning a bug. This is not a bug because it doesn't exist. I said that you and the original poster are both incorrect in thinking that a stunned enemy with a passive evade ability such as Spider-man or Nightcrawler will evade an attack while stunned.

Post a video of an enemy evading while stunned or stop embarrassing yourself. Your choice

Jaded

AxeCopFire wrote: »

Again, i never said anything about a bug. I have no idea why you even keep mentioning a bug. This is not a bug because it doesn't exist. I said that you and the original poster are both incorrect in thinking that a stunned enemy with a passive evade ability such as Spider-man or Nightcrawler will evade an attack while stunned.

Post a video of an enemy evading while stunned or stop embarrassing yourself. Your choice

It’s your choice to read properly as well. I’m saying it can happen. Never said it’s happening. It’s listed in the bugs section so I’m saying it’s not a bug. Stop being a complete moron and move on.

AxeCopFire

Jaded wrote: »

AxeCopFire wrote: »

Again, i never said anything about a bug. I have no idea why you even keep mentioning a bug. This is not a bug because it doesn't exist. I said that you and the original poster are both incorrect in thinking that a stunned enemy with a passive evade ability such as Spider-man or Nightcrawler will evade an attack while stunned.

Post a video of an enemy evading while stunned or stop embarrassing yourself. Your choice

It’s your choice to read properly as well. I’m saying it can happen. Never said it’s happening. It’s listed in the bugs section so I’m saying it’s not a bug. Stop being a complete moron and move on.

Still wrong. Stop spamming up the board with false information.

Jaded

AxeCopFire wrote: »

Jaded wrote: »

AxeCopFire wrote: »

Again, i never said anything about a bug. I have no idea why you even keep mentioning a bug. This is not a bug because it doesn't exist. I said that you and the original poster are both incorrect in thinking that a stunned enemy with a passive evade ability such as Spider-man or Nightcrawler will evade an attack while stunned.

Post a video of an enemy evading while stunned or stop embarrassing yourself. Your choice

It’s your choice to read properly as well. I’m saying it can happen. Never said it’s happening. It’s listed in the bugs section so I’m saying it’s not a bug. Stop being a complete moron and move on.

Still wrong. Stop spamming up the board with false information.

Defensive ability can trigger even while stunned unless you have pacify on or using a defensive ability reducing champ. You are a complete dumbass.

AxeCopFire

Jaded wrote: »

AxeCopFire wrote: »

Jaded wrote: »

AxeCopFire wrote: »

Again, i never said anything about a bug. I have no idea why you even keep mentioning a bug. This is not a bug because it doesn't exist. I said that you and the original poster are both incorrect in thinking that a stunned enemy with a passive evade ability such as Spider-man or Nightcrawler will evade an attack while stunned.

Post a video of an enemy evading while stunned or stop embarrassing yourself. Your choice

It’s your choice to read properly as well. I’m saying it can happen. Never said it’s happening. It’s listed in the bugs section so I’m saying it’s not a bug. Stop being a complete moron and move on.

Still wrong. Stop spamming up the board with false information.

Defensive ability can trigger even while stunned unless you have pacify on or using a defensive ability reducing champ. You are a complete dumbass.

We are talking about evade, not any other defensive abilities. It's like you are posting in a totally unrelated thread. Passive Evade does not trigger while stunned. Other defensive abilities such as Armor Up can activate while stunned.

Jaded

AxeCopFire wrote: »

Jaded wrote: »

AxeCopFire wrote: »

Jaded wrote: »

AxeCopFire wrote: »

Again, i never said anything about a bug. I have no idea why you even keep mentioning a bug. This is not a bug because it doesn't exist. I said that you and the original poster are both incorrect in thinking that a stunned enemy with a passive evade ability such as Spider-man or Nightcrawler will evade an attack while stunned.

Post a video of an enemy evading while stunned or stop embarrassing yourself. Your choice

It’s your choice to read properly as well. I’m saying it can happen. Never said it’s happening. It’s listed in the bugs section so I’m saying it’s not a bug. Stop being a complete moron and move on.

Still wrong. Stop spamming up the board with false information.

Defensive ability can trigger even while stunned unless you have pacify on or using a defensive ability reducing champ. You are a complete dumbass.

We are talking about evade, not any other defensive abilities. It's like you are posting in a totally unrelated thread. Passive Evade does not trigger while stunned. Other defensive abilities such as Armor Up can activate while stunned.

Nope. Auto evade is still a defensive ability.

AxeCopFire

Again, when defending something so clearly indefensible you have only 1 option: submit proof, ie. A video where it happens. Until then there is no reason for you to continue posting

Etaki_Lirakoi

BDLH and AxeCopFire are correct.

Normal evade (Including passive evade and evade buffs, excluding Mordo and maybe one special node in Act 4) isn’t supposed to activate while stunned, all other defensive accuracy abilities can except for evade.

I’ve constantly hit DD(Original) with a 99 signature(100% Evade chance for projectiles) with Cyclops L1 after a Parry, and I do not have assassin or pacify.

Jaded

Etaki_Lirakoi wrote: »

BDLH and AxeCopFire are correct.

Normal evade (Including passive evade and evade buffs, excluding Mordo and maybe one special node in Act 4) isn’t supposed to activate while stunned, all other defensive accuracy abilities can except for evade.

I’ve constantly hit DD(Original) with a 99 signature(100% Evade chance for projectiles) with Cyclops L1 after a Parry, and I do not have assassin or pacify.

Yeah okay although they changed cykes special it’s no longer considered a projectile. So unfortunately that situation doesn’t work anymore. While it was pre 12.0, It isn’t now.

Evade ability is a ability plain and simple. You can reduce said ability with masteries or ability reducing champs. But if you are not using either then YES THEY CAN EVADE WHILE STUNNED.

Etaki_Lirakoi

Jaded wrote: »

Etaki_Lirakoi wrote: »

BDLH and AxeCopFire are correct.

Normal evade (Including passive evade and evade buffs, excluding Mordo and maybe one special node in Act 4) isn’t supposed to activate while stunned, all other defensive accuracy abilities can except for evade.

I’ve constantly hit DD(Original) with a 99 signature(100% Evade chance for projectiles) with Cyclops L1 after a Parry, and I do not have assassin or pacify.

Yeah okay although they changed cykes special it’s no longer considered a projectile. So unfortunately that situation doesn’t work anymore. While it was pre 12.0, It isn’t now.

... still a projectile, this is against a sig level 5 DD in the daily today. You’re just spreading false information here, stop it.

AxeCopFire

Jaded wrote: »

Etaki_Lirakoi wrote: »

BDLH and AxeCopFire are correct.

Normal evade (Including passive evade and evade buffs, excluding Mordo and maybe one special node in Act 4) isn’t supposed to activate while stunned, all other defensive accuracy abilities can except for evade.

I’ve constantly hit DD(Original) with a 99 signature(100% Evade chance for projectiles) with Cyclops L1 after a Parry, and I do not have assassin or pacify.

Yeah okay although they changed cykes special it’s no longer considered a projectile. So unfortunately that situation doesn’t work anymore. While it was pre 12.0, It isn’t now.

Evade ability is a ability plain and simple. You can reduce said ability with masteries or ability reducing champs. But if you are not using either then YES THEY CAN EVADE WHILE STUNNED.

Do you even play this game? Almost every piece of information you post is easily demonstrated as being wrong.

UnsaferBinkie7

Stupidity at its finest. Another reason why these forums are pathetic sometimes.

Jaded

AxeCopFire wrote: »

Jaded wrote: »

Etaki_Lirakoi wrote: »

BDLH and AxeCopFire are correct.

Normal evade (Including passive evade and evade buffs, excluding Mordo and maybe one special node in Act 4) isn’t supposed to activate while stunned, all other defensive accuracy abilities can except for evade.

I’ve constantly hit DD(Original) with a 99 signature(100% Evade chance for projectiles) with Cyclops L1 after a Parry, and I do not have assassin or pacify.

Yeah okay although they changed cykes special it’s no longer considered a projectile. So unfortunately that situation doesn’t work anymore. While it was pre 12.0, It isn’t now.

Evade ability is a ability plain and simple. You can reduce said ability with masteries or ability reducing champs. But if you are not using either then YES THEY CAN EVADE WHILE STUNNED.

Do you even play this game? Almost every piece of information you post is easily demonstrated as being wrong.

No I don’t play at all. But you guys are the ones saying evade isn’t an ability that could trigger while under stun with no ability reduced masteries or champs. Hmm okay. Not to mention pre 12.0 I used max sig dd against map 5 cykes. Afterwards he got eaten alive because he didn’t auto evade.

The only false information being handed out here is that you know anything other then grabbing a picture that could have been taken a year ago...

Jaded

AxeCopFire wrote: »

Jaded wrote: »

Etaki_Lirakoi wrote: »

BDLH and AxeCopFire are correct.

Normal evade (Including passive evade and evade buffs, excluding Mordo and maybe one special node in Act 4) isn’t supposed to activate while stunned, all other defensive accuracy abilities can except for evade.

I’ve constantly hit DD(Original) with a 99 signature(100% Evade chance for projectiles) with Cyclops L1 after a Parry, and I do not have assassin or pacify.

Yeah okay although they changed cykes special it’s no longer considered a projectile. So unfortunately that situation doesn’t work anymore. While it was pre 12.0, It isn’t now.

Evade ability is a ability plain and simple. You can reduce said ability with masteries or ability reducing champs. But if you are not using either then YES THEY CAN EVADE WHILE STUNNED.

Do you even play this game? Almost every piece of information you post is easily demonstrated as being wrong.

Okay okay got me I don’t play this game....

Yet you two are making people believe that evade is a ability that can’t trigger while stunned. All abilities can trigger while stunned unless you have a ability reducing champ or masteries.

So continue if you must you can’t prove that otherwise. And posting a picture of something that could have happened a year ago doesn’t really count...

UnsaferBinkie7

Jaded you truly are a special one, even kabam will tell you passive evade doesn't activate when they're stunned.

Now, i understand this could be a possible bug now, since the OP is saying so, but you're saying that this is factual and is supposed to happen, yet it's a fact that it's not.

If you wanna keep arguing it, then plz go try to show us in a video with proof of it. If not, then you can be incompetent and slow somewhere else buddy, I'll have a baseball cap waiting for you when you come to your senses.

AxeCopFire

Jaded wrote: »

AxeCopFire wrote: »

Jaded wrote: »

Etaki_Lirakoi wrote: »

BDLH and AxeCopFire are correct.

Normal evade (Including passive evade and evade buffs, excluding Mordo and maybe one special node in Act 4) isn’t supposed to activate while stunned, all other defensive accuracy abilities can except for evade.

I’ve constantly hit DD(Original) with a 99 signature(100% Evade chance for projectiles) with Cyclops L1 after a Parry, and I do not have assassin or pacify.

Yeah okay although they changed cykes special it’s no longer considered a projectile. So unfortunately that situation doesn’t work anymore. While it was pre 12.0, It isn’t now.

Evade ability is a ability plain and simple. You can reduce said ability with masteries or ability reducing champs. But if you are not using either then YES THEY CAN EVADE WHILE STUNNED.

Do you even play this game? Almost every piece of information you post is easily demonstrated as being wrong.

Okay okay got me I don’t play this game....

Yet you two are making people believe that evade is a ability that can’t trigger while stunned. All abilities can trigger while stunned unless you have a ability reducing champ or masteries.

So continue if you must you can’t prove that otherwise. And posting a picture of something that could have happened a year ago doesn’t really count...

You are the one that is making false claims, therefore the burden of proof is on you. Either post a video of this impossible thing happening, or continue to be regarded as someone who has absolutely no idea what he is talking about.

Etaki_Lirakoi

Jaded wrote: »

AxeCopFire wrote: »

Jaded wrote: »

Etaki_Lirakoi wrote: »

BDLH and AxeCopFire are correct.

Normal evade (Including passive evade and evade buffs, excluding Mordo and maybe one special node in Act 4) isn’t supposed to activate while stunned, all other defensive accuracy abilities can except for evade.

I’ve constantly hit DD(Original) with a 99 signature(100% Evade chance for projectiles) with Cyclops L1 after a Parry, and I do not have assassin or pacify.

Yeah okay although they changed cykes special it’s no longer considered a projectile. So unfortunately that situation doesn’t work anymore. While it was pre 12.0, It isn’t now.

Evade ability is a ability plain and simple. You can reduce said ability with masteries or ability reducing champs. But if you are not using either then YES THEY CAN EVADE WHILE STUNNED.

Do you even play this game? Almost every piece of information you post is easily demonstrated as being wrong.

Okay okay got me I don’t play this game....

Yet you two are making people believe that evade is a ability that can’t trigger while stunned. All abilities can trigger while stunned unless you have a ability reducing champ or masteries.

So continue if you must you can’t prove that otherwise. And posting a picture of something that could have happened a year ago doesn’t really count...

Did some searching in Act 4, found a DD, fought him, beam registered as a projectile, all on the current version with the Mephisto background and everything.