Why to improve F2Ps condition

P2ps are 80% better in this game.Every month there's something cool for paid players.
Like i'm stuck on 6.2.2 for like 2 months now, cuz i'm getting no counters.If i was a p2p, i would have bought ton of cavs and crystal shards, and got a counter. I've never got a featured cav. p2ps get extra july 4th deals, and we keep on hoarding units.

We also need to avoid the day when we have to pay to download the game. What if we have to pay to get summoner appreciation and Christmas gift one day?
p2p also have summoner sigil advantage. I mean u can give it for free for a week in a month?

SWS only for p2ps. wow!! These things are becoming the reason people are leaving game and downfall of kabam's revenue.

What are ur thoughts?

Comments

Hrishikesh713

I mean dont get me wrong but bringing lots of cav shards dont help to actually get good counter for anything 😂😂...just get better at game... Havent you seen brian grant who is f2p and have excelled at every piece of content ever there...p.s sigil doesnt help you make you progress in game...its just to get little benefits if player wants to play ...i literally didnt spend any money till my act 6 and i dont spend money on units/ cavs and still have done abyss, 7.1 and 7.2...so just stop complaining and get better at the game...!!!

Edeuink

Serious Response:
This game is free. Kabam needs to make money somehow, and they do that with micro transactions. Obviously, players get perks from spending money. That money they spend keeps the game in good shape.

I find your second paragraph absurd. Kabam has had a successful business model with this game for 6 years. In my opinion they would alienate the entire player base by doing any of those things you mentioned. I would love to hear why you believe that will happen.

Hort4

P2ps are 80% better in this game.Every month there's something cool for paid players.
Like i'm stuck on 6.2.2 for like 2 months now, cuz i'm getting no counters.If i was a p2p, i would have bought ton of cavs and crystal shards, and got a counter. I've never got a featured cav. p2ps get extra july 4th deals, and we keep on hoarding units.

We also need to avoid the day when we have to pay to download the game. What if we have to pay to get summoner appreciation and Christmas gift one day?
p2p also have summoner sigil advantage. I mean u can give it for free for a week in a month?

SWS only for p2ps. wow!! These things are becoming the reason people are leaving game and downfall of kabam's revenue.

What are ur thoughts?

The downfall of Kabam’s revenue is that they are catering to people that actually pay their salaries? Makes sense they would do more for them than for people that pay nothing.

avenge_123

kabam's revenue fell last month

GoDlyZor

Paying will always give you an advantage all else equal but there are tons of ways for f2p to go far in the game and the only exclusive things like sigil aren't worth fussing about. holiday deals are whatever too. You can buy cavs with units too if you want. There are something like 7k units up for grabs in arenas for free if you put the time in...

Ted_n00bgent

To the guy that said micro transactions, for the value of what you are getting they're a little more like macro transactions especially since you can't re-sell these items like skins.

To the OP, don't use hypothetical situations when trying to make a point. I believe I have gotten 2 months free with the sigil since it has came out. If F2P players are leaving the game, how is that affecting their revenue stream? They lost 0 dollars.

I am not totally free to play. I bought the deadpool deal and I think a parkers wallet when I first started and haven't spent since. But then again I am not in a hurry to complete a game that doesn't seem to have an end.

DNA3000

P2ps are 80% better in this game.Every month there's something cool for paid players.
Like i'm stuck on 6.2.2 for like 2 months now, cuz i'm getting no counters.If i was a p2p, i would have bought ton of cavs and crystal shards, and got a counter. I've never got a featured cav. p2ps get extra july 4th deals, and we keep on hoarding units.

We also need to avoid the day when we have to pay to download the game. What if we have to pay to get summoner appreciation and Christmas gift one day?
p2p also have summoner sigil advantage. I mean u can give it for free for a week in a month?

SWS only for p2ps. wow!! These things are becoming the reason people are leaving game and downfall of kabam's revenue.

What are ur thoughts?

You know why you're allowed to play F2P? Because those paid players you're complaining about getting more stuff than you are subsidizing your game play because they are getting more stuff than you. The less stuff they get relative to you, the less money they will likely pay to play the game, because why pay if you're only going to get a small insignificant advantage?

You want to avoid the day when you have to pay to download the game or benefit from summoner appreciation events? Stop complaining about what the paying players get. They get free stuff in the game. You get an entirely free game. I think that's a fair trade.

Also, people are always leaving the game. And Kabam made more money last year than the year before. And if you're thinking of quoting something to me to assert that their revenue is dropping, I would advise against it. I analyze those numbers every quarter, and compare notes with the person you'd likely be quoting at me.

ChaosMax1012

Who you selling the house to. The guy with money, or the guy who cant afford it? Being f2p is fine, just slower and more skill if not an ideal roster.

Hoitado

You do realize that you can buy a featured Cav with Units right?

If you say that it’s a waste then you can’t use that as a valid argument as it is available for you to buy but you choose not

avenge_123

Um, so sorry guys if i'm wrong

Negative_100

Ahem.......................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................... Git Gud

DawsMan

There's a difference between spending, and spending money on cavs until you get the perfect counters on content because you can't get good.

Agent_X_zzz

I have spent barley any money on this came, so not exactly ftp but very close to it and I’m done everything in the game besides a few Carina challenges, being stuck on 6.2.2 is a skill issue, I bet you have some Champs that can do it

Demonzfyre

kabam's revenue fell last month

Amazing what happens when you don't have a ton of stuff to do in game....

Demonzfyre

I've been trying to get Ferrari to understand the same thing. It's not fair I can't pay for one but people who make 100's of thousands of dollars a year can. Why can't Ferrari just give me one for free?

Sparx265

There are plenty of ways to get counters for certain pieces of content. I had so many problems getting through act six and 7.1 and 2, and I am free to play as well. But I grinded the other content I could, practiced, and eventually got through it, albeit with some brute force. If you are really that hard stuck, try taking a look at what else you haven't completed, and try your best to complete those and give yourself a break, some new skills, and more champs to help you through your struggles.

Lvernon15

Spending gives you an advantage? Insane

GOTG

Like you contribute nothing but keep asking for more.

shadow_lurker22

I've been trying to get Ferrari to understand the same thing. It's not fair I can't pay for one but people who make 100's of thousands of dollars a year can. Why can't Ferrari just give me one for free?

I am actually currently begging Lamborghini to give me a free car. I think maybe I am getting through to them. 😂😂😂

Mr_Platypus

Um, so sorry guys if i'm wrong

There’s no “if” about it.
You are just completely wrong

Ghostboytjie

Umm Help... im 100% f2p and im an endgame player... just cause you dont have the normal counters, it doesnt mean u have none

Thecurler

You can do everything in this game FTP apart from compete in the prestige race.

Kerneas

This game is fully playable as f2p. In fact, it is more fun at times. I myself have gotten through all story content up to 7.2 included without spending a dime (not that it was some kinda achievement, it's merely a proof of this being possible).

However there are some small issues f2p meet. My biggest trouble is energy. I am comfortable with trying some paths&fights multiple times before actually succeeding, but with the energy costs, refill costs and recharge time, it can become lengthy. For example if you struggle w a fight that's first on lane in story quest, you can try about 4x every 6 hours. Theoretically 16 tries a day, but that's only for the first fight. If you struggle with a boss, you can get to up to 2 tries a day for example (provided that you reach the boss with your team alive, so that you don't spend units), which becomes boring very quickly.

Still, unless you need to be in the high endgame and complete stuff the day it comes out, being f2p is completely fine. There is plenty if time to take your time through the content. And since arena is a units mine, even the premium currency is fully accessable. And this game never runs any ads at all, which earned my deep respect.

FluffyPigMonster

If Kabam focused to make the game easier to progress and rewarding to players who’s philosophy is to not spend a dime then the game would dissolve and be gone quickly.

At some point we need to acknowledge that people who spend in the game allow the free to play players the opportunity to continue having a game they enjoy as well.

FluffyPigMonster

kabam's revenue fell last month

Last quarter I believe.

And it seems that they’ve taken many steps to increase interest in the game for paid players.

If revenue keeps going down, we’re going to need a new game at some point.

ItsDamien

kabam's revenue fell last month
Last quarter I believe.

And it seems that they’ve taken many steps to increase interest in the game for paid players.

If revenue keeps going down, we’re going to need a new game at some point.

There are many factors why revenue fell. One of them being that there was a massive once in a hundred year pandemic that prevented a lot of people from working for a long time, and forced them to make cutbacks on where they spent money on luxuries.

Saying that revenue fell last quarter isn't surprising when you look at outside influences in the world.

BitterSteel

kabam's revenue fell last month
Last quarter I believe.

And it seems that they’ve taken many steps to increase interest in the game for paid players.

If revenue keeps going down, we’re going to need a new game at some point.
There are many factors why revenue fell. One of them being that there was a massive once in a hundred year pandemic that prevented a lot of people from working for a long time, and forced them to make cutbacks on where they spent money on luxuries.

Saying that revenue fell last quarter isn't surprising when you look at outside influences in the world.

Not to mention they released almost 0 content and the new champions released were underwhelming. Frankly, Kabam smashed it out of the park with no new reason to spend in game.

Demonzfyre

I've been trying to get Ferrari to understand the same thing. It's not fair I can't pay for one but people who make 100's of thousands of dollars a year can. Why can't Ferrari just give me one for free?
I am actually currently begging Lamborghini to give me a free car. I think maybe I am getting through to them. 😂😂😂

Let me know if you do any better than me lol. I'll take a Lamborghini as well 😅😅😅

Colinwhitworth69

I agree that spending money = faster progression.

At the same time I do not measure my progress against other players. I just play to have fun. It is a game after all.

Malreck04

There's two things about this game that, for me, justifies p2p getting advantages.

1) No ads. I thank every whale for this. Ads in mobile games are a deal breaker for me.
2) You can still do every piece of relevant content for free(I know about golden circle, don't have to tell me). Look at Brian Grant. Sure, he has trouble getting six star sig stones, but from a progression perspective he's at the top of the game, along with all the whales. Maybe not the best comparison, but in Clash of Clans, you can basically never catch up to the top players being f2p. By the time you get to a milestone the highest milestone has already changed.

If you really want to pop Cavs, grind arena and do it. Sure, it's a dumb plan and you'll probably come crying about how Cavs are rigged against f2ps.(it's happened on these forums)