2B or not TB

SuperGood

Good Afternoon (maybe),

I am looking for your feedback regarding Thronebreaker. Here is my situation: I am about to form my first Catalyst (Tech), with no good options…(#firstworldproblems) I need to know if I should just take up one of my bad options or wait till I either form a different more helpful catalyst or pull a grand tech champion! Let me know your thought!

Tech options include: Yondu, ROcket, Red Skull, or Iron Patriot. (Yes, I’m completely serious, it is THAT bad…)

TheBair123

WAAAAAAAIIIIIT!!!!!!!

how close are you to forming other catalysts?

anaLysis_

WAAAAAAAIIIIIT!!!!!!!

tbh i’d r3 yondu just to be the first one to do so

Kill_Grey

Imagine having tech 6*s...

Raganator

WAAAAAAAIIIIIT!!!!!!!

What are your goals for Summer of Pain? Will you be able to get the Tech nexus crystal? Waiting a few more weeks is worth the wait.

pseudosane

Rank Red Skull

Red skull ftw. Dude will get a buff and is very useful as is, just needs a damage tweak.

Furious_Fighter1

Rank IP

Just for the memes

MrInsanity

Rank Rocket

Rocket or Red Skull is the best out of all these

SwarmOfRavens

How close are you in other classes and what content do you have left to clear?

Ercarret

I'll say two things that you have to choose between (if you want to follow any of them at all).

1) I saw KT1 defeat Darkhawk with a 6r1 Red Skull. If you don't have a good counter to Darkhawk, that could be a reason to rank him up. He'll only fulfill one of the objectives, but he will fulfill an objective and allow you to clear at least one. That can be really valuable going forward since the rewards are pretty spicy and will most likely allow you to rank up other, better 6* champions in the not-so-distant future.

2) The other alternative is to simply wait a few weeks until Kabam announces the buffs for August. It's possible anyone of those four are among those. I haven't heard even a rumor regarding who it might be so I can't offer any advice ahead of time, but since they are all more or less trash right now they are surely all in the pipeline for a buff. However, neither Yondu nor Rocket fulfills any of the objectives so if you do rank one of them up, they won't do you any good in clearing those (assuming the buffs are announced before his fight disappears).

I honestly don't know what is better. It is really good to become Thronebreaker. I became so maybe a month ago and the daily rewards alone are a significant improvement from before. That being said, champions are being improved at such a rate that one of those will probably be buffed fairly soon. Especially since the Tech class is kind of lacking at the moment. Taking up Red Skull over Rocket right now is fairly whatever, but taking up Red Skull one month before Rocket becomes god-tier...? That could sting.

With all of that being said, I don't recommend you wait too long to see which champ will get buffed. It is very valuable to get to TB and you shouldn't dally.

DawsMan

WAAAAAAAIIIIIT!!!!!!!

If you are really after the SOP objectives, go rocket (best one there and sure to get a buff) or Red Skull (half decent defender, could get a buff). If not, there's no deals, exclusive content, or anything that would be worth ranking one of these trash champs up.

H3t3r

Rank Rocket

Rocket. TB is Honestly so important that I'd say he's worth a r3. As well he at least has pretty good damage and will get buffed one day.

10or_Strong

Raganator said:

What are your goals for Summer of Pain? Will you be able to get the Tech nexus crystal? Waiting a few more weeks is worth the wait.

On the other hand, if OP is looking like they will do well with Summer of Pain, then getting Thronebreaker and accessing all the additional point opportunities from the solo objectives could help them get further into the rewards to get those partial or full T5CC Selectors to then R3 additional champs of a class they may have better options in.

ChaosMax1012

Rank Red Skull

Its worth it for the carina challenges, SOP milestones, daily crystals, and improved glory store

IronGladiator22

Rank Yondu

I’M MARRY POPPINS Y’ALL!

Thanks_D19

Rank Rocket

I think someone did the fastest ever Gwenmaster solo with him so best champ garunteed

ReignkingTW

Rank Red Skull

Do it. At worst you can start getting more t5cc in the store.

SkyLord7000

WAAAAAAAIIIIIT!!!!!!!

Red Skull seems like he’ll get buffed eventually

SuperGood

Here is how close I am to my other catalysts:

I have finished all SOP fights thus far (4/4).
I have finished all of completion content and some exploration in Act 7.1.1 as well as completed all Variants. I haven’t touched any Abyss… I have some killer options in Mutant, Mystic, and Science for other rank ups!

SuperGood

ReignkingTW said:

Do it. At worst you can start getting more t5cc in the store.

How much T5CC is available in the store?

SuperGood

Ercarret said:

2) The other alternative is to simply wait a few weeks until Kabam announces the buffs for August. It's possible anyone of those four are among those. I haven't heard even a rumor regarding who it might be so I can't offer any advice ahead of time, but since they are all more or less trash right now they are surely all in the pipeline for a buff. However, neither Yondu nor Rocket fulfills any of the objectives so if you do rank one of them up, they won't do you any good in clearing those (assuming the buffs are announced before his fight disappears).

With all of that being said, I don't recommend you wait too long to see which champ will get buffed. It is very valuable to get to TB and you shouldn't dally.

I really appreciate your idea of waiting to see the buffs for August!

SuperGood

DawsMan said:

If you are really after the SOP objectives, go rocket (best one there and sure to get a buff) or Red Skull (half decent defender, could get a buff). If not, there's no deals, exclusive content, or anything that would be worth ranking one of these trash champs up.

I was thinking this same thing… level 6 seems like one of the most beneficial levels though getting to select 3 25% CCs. Also, I’m not sure I would be able to get all of the other objectives (or even some) done…

Moosetiptronic

Rank Red Skull

So red skull can do two of the cav EQ tech node combos, heal block on heavy and power drain on block and specials. If you rank 3 him, you'll use him in that every month and on defence.

Not sure you will use the other 3, even at rank 3.

TB gets you 25% of a t5cc a month (calendar plus glory store), so you'll get it back in 4 months just from that. In 4 months, you may pull 8-10 6* if you 100% the cav EQ and the side quests.

Tech is an ok class and following the buffs there are a lot of r3 candidates. But if you did pull one of them, there's not much of a gap from r2 to r3 so that you'd really notice it with them at r2 for a few months.

And red skull has to be close to a tune up.

Go for it....

SuperGood

I really appreciate all of your feedback!

Ethereality

Rank Red Skull

Dude, I recommend Red Skull not because I'm delusional thinking he's good. The reasons are the following:

- All of your options are bad. He is within the top 2 of your options ( the other would be Rocket just due to damage alone)

- He gives some really neat synergies to other champs ( they don't do much for him though)

- If duped and at high sig ( naturally though, don't waste AG or stones on him) he's is at least somewhat usable in AW defense, specially because he is rarely used so peeps dont expect him appearing on it.

- R3ing a bad champ just to get TB does make sense because as soon as you become TB , T5cc shards and other needed R3 resources will start trickling in at a faster pace, thus you'll get what you need to R3 your other good champs.

- This last reason is for me the most important one although I must admit is based on my own pure wishful thinking: Of all 4 champs, I think Red Skull is set to to receive the most badass buff. The reason is twofold: a) he's an iconic Marvel villain and b) I can definitely see how just tweaking his existing kit would go a long way on making him shine. For example, imagine if they would just tie his damage output to the amount of Armor Ups he has ( making him like a Tech version of Collosus), etc. Who knows tho if they will buff him soon and if his buff will be good but ... just take Diablo for example. Plenty of people wouldn't have picked him if he appeared on a nexus, before his buff they would have definitely pick a meh champ like Drax over Diablo anytime. In fact, I actually did so. Now tho? I wish I would have gotten Diablo.

Hope it helps

Xguard77

WAAAAAAAIIIIIT!!!!!!!

I voted "wait", but @Ethereality logic won me over. Go for Red Skull

Hammerbro_64

Go for the one that is most likely to snag an overhaul buff. Yondu will probably only get a minor utility and numbers update, same with RS. They could be good, but if you don’t like them at all now you definitely won’t when the get buffed (imo of course).

IP doesn’t strike me as someone on the verge of getting buffed since I would imagine they would prioritize OG IM because they are both fairly standard iron man suits.

Rocket is who I would personally go for.

SuperGood

SuperGood

So, after revising everyone’s feedback I decided to go with Red Skull for a few reasons.

1) I like the character. I think he looks and feels really good to play albeit no damage or utility and weird armor interactions.
2) I don’t like Rocket at all and I can’t see myself enjoying his future kit (because I know the future and know he will not be good…)
3) I had expiring T5 catalysts that I needed to use.
4) I am excited to put him on defense.
5) I’ll use him for Cav monthly quests
6) Very and least importantly he might get a buff.
7) I really think that being Thronebreaker early is important due to all of the opportunities available to that level of account progression!

MrInsanity

Rank Rocket

SuperGood said:

So, after revising everyone’s feedback I decided to go with Red Skull for a few reasons.

7) I really think that being Thronebreaker early is important due to all of the opportunities available to that level of account progression!

Like what

pseudosane

Rank Red Skull

SuperGood said:

So, after revising everyone’s feedback I decided to go with Red Skull for a few reasons.

1) I like the character. I think he looks and feels really good to play albeit no damage or utility and weird armor interactions.
2) I don’t like Rocket at all and I can’t see myself enjoying his future kit (because I know the future and know he will not be good…)
3) I had expiring T5 catalysts that I needed to use.
4) I am excited to put him on defense.
5) I’ll use him for Cav monthly quests
6) Very and least importantly he might get a buff.
7) I really think that being Thronebreaker early is important due to all of the opportunities available to that level of account progression!

Dont sleep on RS though. Dude has BADASS block proficiency, and powercontrol. He can totally control fights. The only thing he really lacks is damage, but he can be really good in making the fight how you want it to be. That L3 is amazing.
That said, great choice to take him up! I'm sure you will have fun using him.