Should I get suicides?

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I'm debating on whether to save enough units to get suicide masteries

but am not sure if it's worth it, any thoughts?

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BarryMcCaulkiner

No work on progressing your account or building a suicide friendly questing team then it’ll be worth it

Qfury

I personally don't think you have the right champs to consider unlocking suicides.

I got them once I got corvus & started arena grinding hard.

Although I love suicides, finish fights quicker etc I've just finished up 7.2 expo the other day and had them off the whole time, turned them back on for a few days then had to turn them off again for SOP & cav EQ expo.

I'll definitely be turning them on again once that's done but it is a massive waste of units, burnt in the region of 4-500 units just swapping masteries the past week or so, and I don't really do arena anymore.

Hoitado

I don’t even have WillPower lol and I’m on 6.4

Scarcity27

I don’t even have WillPower lol and I’m on 6.4

You mean willpower the mastery, or...

Ercarret

Unlock the willpower mastery first, that'll serve you well without the suicide masteries and is absolutely essential when you do turn those on. You should, under absolutely no circumstances, turn the suicides on without willower.

When that's sorted, you have to look at your roster. You need champs who

1) are not too SP1/2-reliant (or at least doesn't need to throw a lot of them each fight)
2) are bleed and/or poison immune/resistant.
3) can shrug off those debuffs.
4) have regen. It's not necessary but certainly helps.

So who among your roster fits that description?

Captain Marvel - Poison immune and can go fully indestructible. If you can become that right at the start of the fight, you can cancel out a lot of the bleed damage. However, she needs to be awakened for that.

Immortal Hulk - Poison immune. I don't have much experience with him but he seems really suicide-friendly.

Vision - Bleed and poison immune, but he should be awakened to be good.

Hulkbuster - No immunities but he gains more bleed resistance the more armor up buffs he has. However, I wouldn't use him with suicides without his sig unlocked, since it gives him a big, nice regen.

Mole Man - No immunities but he can shrug off debuffs easily.

Guillotine 2099 - Bleed and poison immune, and has healing.

Medusa - Poison immune.

Colossus - Bleed immune.

Magik - No resistances but her Limbo heals every damage lost during its activation. However, for that to be really valuable with suicides, you kind of need high sig.

Diablo - I don't have him myself but he seems amazingly suicide-friendly.

Bishop - He can easily shrug off bleeds and has a small regen that'll help offset any damage you do take. He also mainly uses his SP2 to end fights with so he doesn't take much recoil damage if played correctly.

You have a decent roster but I wouldn't go after the suicides until you've both ranked up some more of the champions mentioned above and then also awakened those that needs that to be suicide-friendly. And unlocked willpower, if you haven't already.

I personally don't use those masteries much (except for willpower), but I like having them unlocked for when I need that power boost. However, they really are endgame masteries. Very, very expensive.

Darksniper240

Really good answer by @Ercarret. I also think another big factor is to ask yourself is if you do a lot of arenas. I switched them on and and never turned back. However, the majority of my time spent in game is messing around in the arenas. I hit cav using champs like Ghulk, emma, torch, cap IW, and Colossus. Not horrible with suicides, but definitely not a corvus or an omega. So as long as you work around the negatives like recoil, most champs are ok with suicides. I can count on a single hand how many times I have turned them off and I've initial completed pretty much everything except labyrinth and abyss. I know I'll have to take them off for some of act 6 and 7 exploration, but I am completely dreading that.

The positive thing with using suicides with everyday champs is it gets that much more fun when you pull the gods like ghost, corvus, or omega. However, I would for sure not switch any suicides on until you are able to get willpower and max out liquid courage or double edge. Good luck!

LeNoirFaineant

I personally don't think you have the right champs to consider unlocking suicides.

I got them once I got corvus & started arena grinding hard.

Although I love suicides, finish fights quicker etc I've just finished up 7.2 expo the other day and had them off the whole time, turned them back on for a few days then had to turn them off again for SOP & cav EQ expo.

I'll definitely be turning them on again once that's done but it is a massive waste of units, burnt in the region of 4-500 units just swapping masteries the past week or so, and I don't really do arena anymore.

Why turn them off for Cav EQ?

Ercarret

@LeNoirFaineant The Skill quest has a passive heal block node this month. If you go in with suicides on and you're not immune to the bleed and poison or can shrug them off easily, you're going to die very, very quickly.

LeNoirFaineant

@LeNoirFaineant The Skill quest has a passive heal block node this month. If you go in with suicides on and you're not immune to the bleed and poison or can shrug them off easily, you're going to die very, very quickly.

Sure but if you are running suicides you surely have suicide friendly champs. I'm not changing my masteries for EQ. I've only done one path on the Cav skill quest so far but it wasn't bad with suicides on.