Angela sig not working as worded

Also node 32 in AW. Same thing. And I run Odins prefight. Ill have 7+ buffs going. Aint no reason I should take any bleed damage off shield buffed champs. 7x35 =245% fix this

What are the nodes?

Power snack. Which is why I only had 4 buff. At least the powersnack fails as it is supposed too, and node 32

I also dont agree with powersnack taking Angelas prefight buffs from
Odin. Prefight meaning I start the fight with. But it is what it is

His sig has increased duration

Edit: meaning u need more than 4 buffs no bug nothing wrong with sig anything with extra duration means u need more buffs than normal

magnus_xix

The increase in debuff duration is calculated after the decrease in debuff duration so you can never have 100% decreased debuff duration if there is an increase in debuff duration from nodes/abilities.

So just tested this in cav eq with my 145 sig angela and mines working as it should 5+ buffs no poisons for u it seems u must have lost the buffs and u didnt have 4 since works completely fine

@Bendy come again?

@Bendy said I had 4 on power snack. Thats 140% vs 128% duration

@magnus_xix ok that would make more since. I appreciate the clarity. Still not mathematically correct but this is Kabam. So ty.

@Bendy said I had 4 on power snack. Thats 140% vs 128% duration

Must be increased duration on that node than just power snack as i went into cav eq and 4 buffs against 25% extra worked and mines only sig 145

Edit: other than that im not sure why urs aint working its like theres extra duration on extra duration somewhere thats making it more if odins buffs were active then im sure there wouldnt be a problem but i am really not sure whats going on, what device do u play on by any chance

@magnus_xix ok that would make more since. I appreciate the clarity. Still not mathematically correct but this is Kabam. So ty.

So I’m not a million percent sure, but what I would guess is that it works similar to extra ability accuracy and extra potency with resistances.

If Angela reduces duration by 100%, then that means what the mathematical sum is, is this:

Debuff duration - 100% of debuff duration = 0

Let’s say the debuff lasts 10 seconds.

10 - 100% of 10 = 0

Straight forward, I know. But if that debuff duration has increased duration, then I imagine the sum turns into this

increased duration amount * debuff duration - 100% of debuff duration

I’d imagine Angela only reduces the duration by its original value, and not the new increased one. So if we had an increased duration of 30%, we would have the following sum:

130% of 10 - 100% of 10 = 13 - 10 = 3

So that’s why Angela can still have duration of a debuff.

Now what I don’t get, is that with a sig 200 Angela, you have 35% reduced duration with each buff, meaning 140% total reduction with the 4 buffs.

And this Abom you fought has 22% increased duration. Meaning it should be

122% of debuff - 140% of debuff = 0 duration.

So I have two theories. One, you didn’t have 4 buffs when the poisons triggered, and if you did trigger them with 4 buffs then they would have 0 duration. But just correct me if that’s not true. Or two, Angela’s reduction doesn’t increase above 100%. So 3 buffs is 100%, 4 buffs is 100% etc etc. I mean i guess also it could be bugged, but I’m not sure.

@magnus_xix ok that would make more since. I appreciate the clarity. Still not mathematically correct but this is Kabam. So ty.
So I’m not a million percent sure, but what I would guess is that it works similar to extra ability accuracy and extra potency with resistances.

If Angela reduces duration by 100%, then that means what the mathematical sum is, is this:

Debuff duration - 100% of debuff duration = 0

Let’s say the debuff lasts 10 seconds.

10 - 100% of 10 = 0

Straight forward, I know. But if that debuff duration has increased duration, then I imagine the sum turns into this

increased duration amount * debuff duration - 100% of debuff duration

I’d imagine Angela only reduces the duration by its original value, and not the new increased one. So if we had an increased duration of 30%, we would have the following sum:

130% of 10 - 100% of 10 = 13 - 10 = 3

So that’s why Angela can still have duration of a debuff.

Now what I don’t get, is that with a sig 200 Angela, you have 35% reduced duration with each buff, meaning 140% total reduction with the 4 buffs.

And this Abom you fought has 22% increased duration. Meaning it should be

122% of debuff - 140% of debuff = 0 duration.

So I have two theories. One, you didn’t have 4 buffs when the poisons triggered, and if you did trigger them with 4 buffs then they would have 0 duration. But just correct me if that’s not true. Or two, Angela’s reduction doesn’t increase above 100%. So 3 buffs is 100%, 4 buffs is 100% etc etc. I mean i guess also it could be bugged, but I’m not sure.

It stacks higher than 100% for sure as tested in cav eq where its a sig 120 with 25% extra and 4 buffs-5 negated it but i think u can be onto something that the poison triggered before the buffs which looking back poison is at the start not after the buffs so seems u are correct that poison was active before the buffs

@magnus_xix ok that would make more since. I appreciate the clarity. Still not mathematically correct but this is Kabam. So ty.
So I’m not a million percent sure, but what I would guess is that it works similar to extra ability accuracy and extra potency with resistances.

If Angela reduces duration by 100%, then that means what the mathematical sum is, is this:

Debuff duration - 100% of debuff duration = 0

Let’s say the debuff lasts 10 seconds.

10 - 100% of 10 = 0

Straight forward, I know. But if that debuff duration has increased duration, then I imagine the sum turns into this

increased duration amount * debuff duration - 100% of debuff duration

I’d imagine Angela only reduces the duration by its original value, and not the new increased one. So if we had an increased duration of 30%, we would have the following sum:

130% of 10 - 100% of 10 = 13 - 10 = 3

So that’s why Angela can still have duration of a debuff.

Now what I don’t get, is that with a sig 200 Angela, you have 35% reduced duration with each buff, meaning 140% total reduction with the 4 buffs.

And this Abom you fought has 22% increased duration. Meaning it should be

122% of debuff - 140% of debuff = 0 duration.

So I have two theories. One, you didn’t have 4 buffs when the poisons triggered, and if you did trigger them with 4 buffs then they would have 0 duration. But just correct me if that’s not true. Or two, Angela’s reduction doesn’t increase above 100%. So 3 buffs is 100%, 4 buffs is 100% etc etc. I mean i guess also it could be bugged, but I’m not sure.

It stacks higher than 100% for sure as tested in cav eq where its a sig 120 with 25% extra and 4 buffs-5 negated it but i think u can be onto something that the poison triggered before the buffs which looking back poison is at the start not after the buffs so seems u are correct that poison was active before the buffs

I would imagine it should stack above 100%, we can have more than 100% ability accuracy, more than 100% resistance. I’d be really surprised if it didn’t stack above 100%.

@magnus_xix ok that would make more since. I appreciate the clarity. Still not mathematically correct but this is Kabam. So ty.
So I’m not a million percent sure, but what I would guess is that it works similar to extra ability accuracy and extra potency with resistances.

If Angela reduces duration by 100%, then that means what the mathematical sum is, is this:

Debuff duration - 100% of debuff duration = 0

Let’s say the debuff lasts 10 seconds.

10 - 100% of 10 = 0

Straight forward, I know. But if that debuff duration has increased duration, then I imagine the sum turns into this

increased duration amount * debuff duration - 100% of debuff duration

I’d imagine Angela only reduces the duration by its original value, and not the new increased one. So if we had an increased duration of 30%, we would have the following sum:

130% of 10 - 100% of 10 = 13 - 10 = 3

So that’s why Angela can still have duration of a debuff.

Now what I don’t get, is that with a sig 200 Angela, you have 35% reduced duration with each buff, meaning 140% total reduction with the 4 buffs.

And this Abom you fought has 22% increased duration. Meaning it should be

122% of debuff - 140% of debuff = 0 duration.

So I have two theories. One, you didn’t have 4 buffs when the poisons triggered, and if you did trigger them with 4 buffs then they would have 0 duration. But just correct me if that’s not true. Or two, Angela’s reduction doesn’t increase above 100%. So 3 buffs is 100%, 4 buffs is 100% etc etc. I mean i guess also it could be bugged, but I’m not sure.

It stacks higher than 100% for sure as tested in cav eq where its a sig 120 with 25% extra and 4 buffs-5 negated it but i think u can be onto something that the poison triggered before the buffs which looking back poison is at the start not after the buffs so seems u are correct that poison was active before the buffs
I would imagine it should stack above 100%, we can have more than 100% ability accuracy, more than 100% resistance. I’d be really surprised if it didn’t stack above 100%.

Yeah for sure would suck but if they capped debuff reduction they should cap debuff duration so makes it fair but if u look at the pic i was tagged in it does show 0 buffs at start as power snack then bleed and 3 poisons meaning most likely actives before the buffs which would make duration as u said the full length

@magnus_xix ok that would make more since. I appreciate the clarity. Still not mathematically correct but this is Kabam. So ty.
So I’m not a million percent sure, but what I would guess is that it works similar to extra ability accuracy and extra potency with resistances.

If Angela reduces duration by 100%, then that means what the mathematical sum is, is this:

Debuff duration - 100% of debuff duration = 0

Let’s say the debuff lasts 10 seconds.

10 - 100% of 10 = 0

Straight forward, I know. But if that debuff duration has increased duration, then I imagine the sum turns into this

increased duration amount * debuff duration - 100% of debuff duration

I’d imagine Angela only reduces the duration by its original value, and not the new increased one. So if we had an increased duration of 30%, we would have the following sum:

130% of 10 - 100% of 10 = 13 - 10 = 3

So that’s why Angela can still have duration of a debuff.

Now what I don’t get, is that with a sig 200 Angela, you have 35% reduced duration with each buff, meaning 140% total reduction with the 4 buffs.

And this Abom you fought has 22% increased duration. Meaning it should be

122% of debuff - 140% of debuff = 0 duration.

So I have two theories. One, you didn’t have 4 buffs when the poisons triggered, and if you did trigger them with 4 buffs then they would have 0 duration. But just correct me if that’s not true. Or two, Angela’s reduction doesn’t increase above 100%. So 3 buffs is 100%, 4 buffs is 100% etc etc. I mean i guess also it could be bugged, but I’m not sure.

It stacks higher than 100% for sure as tested in cav eq where its a sig 120 with 25% extra and 4 buffs-5 negated it but i think u can be onto something that the poison triggered before the buffs which looking back poison is at the start not after the buffs so seems u are correct that poison was active before the buffs
I would imagine it should stack above 100%, we can have more than 100% ability accuracy, more than 100% resistance. I’d be really surprised if it didn’t stack above 100%.
Yeah for sure would suck but if they capped debuff reduction they should cap debuff duration so makes it fair but if u look at the pic i was tagged in it does show 0 buffs at start as power snack then bleed and 3 poisons meaning most likely actives before the buffs which would make duration as u said the full length

Yeah, from what it looks like in the picture there are 4 buffs currently up

The two fury buffs were probably triggered recently, since he’s only just above a bar of power. That means he likely had an armour up buff from being below 1 bar of power, an armour up buff that you can still see on the screenshot and potentially a regen. That’s looking like 3 buffs when those poisons were triggered.

I’d also guess that the poisons were what triggered the regen, by taking off some of Angela’s health. Based on the around 3 seconds of regen duration left, meaning it occurred 7 seconds ago. And the duration of poison remaining means (based on some quick maths) that just over 25% duration of the poison gone means it’s been ticking for over 7.6 seconds with a 30.5 total second duration. So if the poison has been ticking longer than the regen, then that means the regen buff wasn’t there when the poison triggered.

Then it seems like only the two armour buffs would have been active, so there was only a 70% duration reduction.