Why 3*s are still there in cav crystals !! Please stop it

Whyyyyyyyy I mean whyyyyyyy I always get 3*s from cav crystals I popped 5 world's end crystal and got all 3*s not a single 5*s or 6*s ... I m thronebreaker why do I need 3*s . It is frustrating
Or bring thronebreaker crystals instead

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Kerneas

I understand the need for gamble, but for 150 (or 175? Idk) units, even 30% chance of useless 3* makes it much less desirable. If they dropped more ISO, it'd be fine by me

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BitterSteel

Unbiased polls are my favourite

The_Sentry06

I need my 3* Sentry at max sig...

Vivavenger

Well three should not there in cav crystals it lessee the chance to get good rarity champs

Skiddy212

Thronebreakers need love. They need an EQ, new crystal etc.

AidenTheWise

I understand y’alls frustration but this is still a gacha game. That’s the gamble you take with cavs. You win some you lose some 🤷🏽‍♂️

Coppin

That will never happen.. they would have to compensante every cav crystal bought in the past...
Gotta understand there are NEW PLAYERS everyday...

awesomesauce

Create a thronebreaker crystal
discount the cav and below

Total_Domin01

They said that they don't plan to make a throne breaker crystal
They did discount the basic cavs for throne breakers

KattohS

From the 4 bearded crystals I was able to open I got all 3 stars.

I haven’t used units on a crystal in over a year. Too risky.

Squirrelguy

You don't...... seem to really know how polls work....... I mean, I guess if you don't care about seeing opposing viewpoints, and just want to insult people. If so, well done.

Ex. These polls are the equivalent to saying "Ice cream is the best. Do you:
1. Love chocolate ice cream and think it is the best food ever
2. Wish that other kinds of frozen dessert like gelato or frozen custard or ice cream alternatives were more available
3. I [a]m bot need leaf

An alternative and less biased poll might include opposing options such as "I'm not a huge fan of ice cream" or "If you eat lots of ice cream and don't lose weight because of it, you might have been able to predict that" (directly corresponding to opinions like "I never really focus on cavs so I don't care" or "Wow, you keep getting the most likely result from a randomly generated system?"). Some people think that cavs are well balanced. Some people like a chance based game. Some people like salads (gonna equate them to arenas here, hot take everyone) because they have a proven and measurable benefit or just because they like them. Of course you don't like to lose, but you seem generally upset about it, and I don't see how this poll is supposed to help....

You also are using free crystals (I presume that you didn't pay for those, although you can now pay for extras) as an example. Plenty of quests have guaranteed rewards, like resources or a guaranteed level of champion. Kabam has found a nice way to introduce a few extra cavs into side quests and monthly content that at a base minimum provides what you have received. Personally, I have received 2 3* champions, one 5* Nebula dupe, and a 6* Nebula dupe. I had terrible luck for a long time, and actually have kept stats on every cav ever opened on my account. There are long streaks where I pulled only 3* champs with the occasional 4*, and then there will be times where you might open several 6* champs within 5 crystals. That's how it works.

If you don't want to see me hyperanalyze things..... well then this post is not the post for you my friend. Let us look at the OP.
"Whyyyyyyyy I mean whyyyyyyy......It is frustrating".....Fair, I guess. It do be like that sometimes.
"I always get 3*s from cav crystals" While this is technically possible, because that is how it works, I really, really doubt this.
"I popped 5 world's end crystal and got all 3*s not a single 5*s or 6*s ..." Honestly, not great luck, but also not that surprising. Have you looked at the odds on each crystal? 40% to get a 3*, 31.5% to get a 4*..... It is just over a 1% chance on any given 5 crystals that you open to receive all 3* champs. This is pretty rare (which should make you want to open more cavs).
"I m thronebreaker why do I need 3*s ." I'm going to assume that you already know about the Variant chapter requiring 3* champs. Other than that, they provide synergies for more rare champions that you don't have at a higher level (laugh all you want, but I had to use a 3* Heimdall until like two weeks ago and I've been TB for a long time). They blast through some lower level arenas with the 3x boosts that are readily available. Past base levels, you do not NEED them to progress through the game, but they sure as heck can make an impact on your roster and give you increased 4* shards, which is better for iso, and shards for all higher tier champs. If you want a guaranteed champ level, only open tier specific crystals.
"Or bring thronebreaker crystals instead" I would actually be cool with this, but it has a major problem. For them to not break the game, they have to be introduced relatively slowly and expensively. That means that you're more likely to open a lot of cav crystals for every one TB crystal you might get. (this all come with the caveat that most players will not dump obscene amounts of money on said crystals. If that is you, then you probably don't care). The next evolution of crystals has been introduced (mythic) and is relatively lackluster. My prediction is that TB crystals will not come in until at least after 7.4 is released, if not much later.

I had some free time and wanted to rant, but I really do sympathize with the overall feeling of the OP. I've been there, and your luck might turn around. It might not, because that is how chance works, but the likelihood is that it will. Take that as you will.

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BitterSteel

@Squirrelguy well said, but do you really think a guy named Karen Grant (a username made to complain about Brian Grant’s video on alts) is going to have the self reflection to take any of that on board?

Imthatdamnbad82

Ive been thinking this for a long time, it makes no sense. Grandmaster Crystals contain three levels, as do PHCs. Cav crystals should also only offer three levels as well, why it offers four is beyond me. I worked hard to get to Cav just to get the same 3*s I get from my Grandmasters?

Squirrelguy

@Squirrelguy well said, but do you really think a guy named Karen Grant (a username made to complain about Brian Grant’s video on alts) is going to have the self reflection to take any of that on board?

LOL usually never have any hope at actually changing minds, it is more that I need to at least get it out there.

Karen_Grant01

Why you guys don't vote

You don't...... seem to really know how polls work....... I mean, I guess if you don't care about seeing opposing viewpoints, and just want to insult people. If so, well done.

Ex. These polls are the equivalent to saying "Ice cream is the best. Do you:
1. Love chocolate ice cream and think it is the best food ever
2. Wish that other kinds of frozen dessert like gelato or frozen custard or ice cream alternatives were more available
3. I [a]m bot need leaf

An alternative and less biased poll might include opposing options such as "I'm not a huge fan of ice cream" or "If you eat lots of ice cream and don't lose weight because of it, you might have been able to predict that" (directly corresponding to opinions like "I never really focus on cavs so I don't care" or "Wow, you keep getting the most likely result from a randomly generated system?"). Some people think that cavs are well balanced. Some people like a chance based game. Some people like salads (gonna equate them to arenas here, hot take everyone) because they have a proven and measurable benefit or just because they like them. Of course you don't like to lose, but you seem generally upset about it, and I don't see how this poll is supposed to help....

You also are using free crystals (I presume that you didn't pay for those, although you can now pay for extras) as an example. Plenty of quests have guaranteed rewards, like resources or a guaranteed level of champion. Kabam has found a nice way to introduce a few extra cavs into side quests and monthly content that at a base minimum provides what you have received. Personally, I have received 2 3* champions, one 5* Nebula dupe, and a 6* Nebula dupe. I had terrible luck for a long time, and actually have kept stats on every cav ever opened on my account. There are long streaks where I pulled only 3* champs with the occasional 4*, and then there will be times where you might open several 6* champs within 5 crystals. That's how it works.

If you don't want to see me hyperanalyze things..... well then this post is not the post for you my friend. Let us look at the OP.
"Whyyyyyyyy I mean whyyyyyyy......It is frustrating".....Fair, I guess. It do be like that sometimes.
"I always get 3*s from cav crystals" While this is technically possible, because that is how it works, I really, really doubt this.
"I popped 5 world's end crystal and got all 3*s not a single 5*s or 6*s ..." Honestly, not great luck, but also not that surprising. Have you looked at the odds on each crystal? 40% to get a 3*, 31.5% to get a 4*..... It is just over a 1% chance on any given 5 crystals that you open to receive all 3* champs. This is pretty rare (which should make you want to open more cavs).
"I m thronebreaker why do I need 3*s ." I'm going to assume that you already know about the Variant chapter requiring 3* champs. Other than that, they provide synergies for more rare champions that you don't have at a higher level (laugh all you want, but I had to use a 3* Heimdall until like two weeks ago and I've been TB for a long time). They blast through some lower level arenas with the 3x boosts that are readily available. Past base levels, you do not NEED them to progress through the game, but they sure as heck can make an impact on your roster and give you increased 4* shards, which is better for iso, and shards for all higher tier champs. If you want a guaranteed champ level, only open tier specific crystals.
"Or bring thronebreaker crystals instead" I would actually be cool with this, but it has a major problem. For them to not break the game, they have to be introduced relatively slowly and expensively. That means that you're more likely to open a lot of cav crystals for every one TB crystal you might get. (this all come with the caveat that most players will not dump obscene amounts of money on said crystals. If that is you, then you probably don't care). The next evolution of crystals has been introduced (mythic) and is relatively lackluster. My prediction is that TB crystals will not come in until at least after 7.4 is released, if not much later.

I had some free time and wanted to rant, but I really do sympathize with the overall feeling of the OP. I've been there, and your luck might turn around. It might not, because that is how chance works, but the likelihood is that it will. Take that as you will.

Wow you write an entire essay ...

Just one advice go and get a life .. don't get mad over a game loll

Karen_Grant01

I even think the cav crystals are rigged ..they give mostly 3* / 4* ..

Karen_Grant01

**** crystals

Snakep

I even think the cav crystals are rigged ..they give mostly 3* / 4* ..

They give mostly 3 and 4 stars because the percentages say that’s what they will be. They aren’t rigged, they openly tell you that most of the time it will be a 3 or 4 star. And I am in favor of a crystal that only gives 4 stars and up but let’s face it, if they make one the cost will be high enough that everyone will run to the forums and complain that they are not worth it.

JollyHawk

**** crystals

Just one advice go and get a life .. don't get mad over a game loll

Karen_Grant01

**** crystals
Just one advice go and get a life .. don't get mad over a game loll

Thanks for your advice !

LeNoirFaineant

Almost all 4*s I pull are max sig dupes. These are useful for class iso, gold, and shards. 3*s are not in Cav crystals because Kabam thinks they are useful for you, they are in there because they can't have Cav crystals contain only useful outcomes. Certainly not at anything like a reasonable price. Look how long it takes to get one Mythic crystal, which will probably be a 5*, which at this point is only more useful than a 4* because it gives 6* shards.

Karen_Grant01

Almost all 4*s I pull are max sig dupes. These are useful for class iso, gold, and shards. 3*s are not in Cav crystals because Kabam thinks they are useful for you, they are in there because they can't have Cav crystals contain only useful outcomes. Certainly not at anything like a reasonable price. Look how long it takes to get one Mythic crystal, which will probably be a 5*, which at this point is only more useful than a 4* because it gives 6* shards.

With time this game needs to change , there are over 200 champs in game and we can't stuck over 3*s because 5*/ 6* are costly !!!! Rip logic .

For higher progression players prices should be reduced , 6* should be more available ..there's a need of tb crystals else fuuk this game

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Zenn_La

Normals Cavs should have 3*s because as you progress Cav crystals are easier to obtain and 4* dupes do have a high iso/shard value. They are the lower value, more common Cav crystal.

Featured Cavs should not have 4*s! No need for a “Thronebreaker” crystal, just remove 3*s from all featured Cavs since these are rarer, more expensive crystals. Featured Cavs should always award a 4* minimum so you at least get some iso for your hard earned featured Cav. Drop rates would be the same but just combine the 3*&4* drop rate into a 71% 4* drop rate.

Deacon

Nothing beats opening 60 Grandmaster Crystals with all 3* and one 4* in it (Phoenix) lol

Karen_Grant01

@Kabam Miike @Kabam Porthos what you say sir ???

Thronebreaker players can't stuck over 3*s I already have every champ as 3* why do I need them when I open a cav crystal ... ??

Change the crystals ?? It's frustrating to get 3* from cav crystals !!!. You have to listen sir it's a request