Ranking to r3 is a fraud !

Alexnls

Can some one explain me why does my heroes stats and prestige goes down when i rank 3 them? I have 3 r3 and with every single 1 i hâd the same issue , stats goimg down after rankup, i decide to keep track with my next r3 (cmm) and this is what happened, i had to fill 12 lvl into r3 cmm to reach the same stats as a lvl max r2... 12 lvl for nothing, the gold the iso , this is just a big fraud from kabam , i also have a video when ranking her up showing prestige and stats fall, masteries before and after rankup are the same . I really need some explinations

CoatHang3r

They recently said it’s to encourage players to continue with the leveling up process, believe it was Porthos who said it.

Hey “Summoner”, rest assured, this is an intentional aspect of the game. We implemented it to encourage players to Level Up their Champions after reaching a higher Rank. While in some cases, there can be an initial decrease in the Champion's attributes, they can then be Levelled Up to make them much more powerful than was possible at a lower Rank.

Alexnls

CoatHang3r said:

They recently said it’s to encourage players to continue with the leveling up process, believe it was Porthos who said it.

Hey “Summoner”, rest assured, this is an intentional aspect of the game. We implemented it to encourage players to Level Up their Champions after reaching a higher Rank. While in some cases, there can be an initial decrease in the Champion's attributes, they can then be Levelled Up to make them much more powerful than was possible at a lower Rank.

For real?? How is this supuse to encourage me wasting resources for 12 lvl just for nothing

DualityCope

Bro just get some iso

CoatHang3r

Maybe catalysts counteract the effects of iso8 when used so your champions need to consume some more iso8?

Alexnls

I have iso , this is not the problem , the problem is the 12 lvl ups just în vain

DannyB01

What a stupid encouragement from Kabam. They’re a higher rank, so should be more powerful. It’s called “progression”, not “regression first but will eventually be progression” lol

Alexnls

DannyB01 said:

What a stupid encouragement from Kabam. They’re a higher rank, so should be more powerful. It’s called “progression”, not “regression first but will eventually be progression” lol

Exactly my toughts, its either a bug or they did that on purpose for r3 to not become too op, but the stealing right în our faceces its priceless😅 why dont u change the r3 description to R 2.75 then kabam?

Alexnls

Nocko said:

It is silly, but you didnt r3 them unless you have intention to max them out at that lvl no?
When they're maxed out, they'd be much stronger...

I personally dont level up a champ unless i have the intention and ability to immediate max rank them at that level... but lf you ran out of iso, that's understandable, mercifully it's one of the resources that is very obtainable.

And by doing that you skip the part where you are stealed

Alexnls

Alexnls

Alexnls said:

Nocko said:

It is silly, but you didnt r3 them unless you have intention to max them out at that lvl no?
When they're maxed out, they'd be much stronger...

I personally dont level up a champ unless i have the intention and ability to immediate max rank them at that level... but lf you ran out of iso, that's understandable, mercifully it's one of the resources that is very obtainable.

And by doing that you skip the part where you are stealed

If you go max from the start you will not notice

ItsDamien

Alexnls said:

Alexnls said:

Nocko said:

It is silly, but you didnt r3 them unless you have intention to max them out at that lvl no?
When they're maxed out, they'd be much stronger...

I personally dont level up a champ unless i have the intention and ability to immediate max rank them at that level... but lf you ran out of iso, that's understandable, mercifully it's one of the resources that is very obtainable.

And by doing that you skip the part where you are stealed

If you go max from the start you will not notice

So why does it matter? You get what you want in the end.

Alexnls

ItsDamien said:

Alexnls said:

Alexnls said:

Nocko said:

It is silly, but you didnt r3 them unless you have intention to max them out at that lvl no?
When they're maxed out, they'd be much stronger...

I personally dont level up a champ unless i have the intention and ability to immediate max rank them at that level... but lf you ran out of iso, that's understandable, mercifully it's one of the resources that is very obtainable.

And by doing that you skip the part where you are stealed

If you go max from the start you will not notice

So why does it matter? You get what you want in the end.

It masters because that 12 lvl up used to get the hero to the same stats as a r2 , when it could add a + to heal and atk from the start , and the iso , gold used for that , if you rank a champ its supuse to go up not down first and them up again .

Antsiou

ItsDamien said:

So why does it matter? You get what you want in the end.

It matters to OP because there's 12 level worth of ISO and gold being used before seeing any benefit.
If those 12 levels where not a "catch up" leveling, a maxed out rank 3 6* would be the equivalent of a 3/57 (12 + 45)
But as it is now, it's really a 3/33 (45-12).

ItsDamien

Alexnls said:

ItsDamien said:

Alexnls said:

Alexnls said:

Nocko said:

It is silly, but you didnt r3 them unless you have intention to max them out at that lvl no?
When they're maxed out, they'd be much stronger...

I personally dont level up a champ unless i have the intention and ability to immediate max rank them at that level... but lf you ran out of iso, that's understandable, mercifully it's one of the resources that is very obtainable.

And by doing that you skip the part where you are stealed

If you go max from the start you will not notice

So why does it matter? You get what you want in the end.

It masters because that 12 lvl up used to get the hero to the same stats as a r2 , when it could add a + to heal and atk from the start , and the iso , gold used for that , if you rank a champ its supuse to go up not down first and them up again .

They could literally make every other levels increase less valuable and make the first 12 more valuable and it doesn’t make a damn difference. You’re going to fully level them either way and they’ll end up where they’re meant to be. It’s not wasted. It’s not a scam. It’s not “R2.75”. You’re not going to notice it unless you’re scrutinising for a non issue. Get over it.

Alexnls

ItsDamien said:

Alexnls said:

ItsDamien said:

Alexnls said:

Alexnls said:

Nocko said:

It is silly, but you didnt r3 them unless you have intention to max them out at that lvl no?
When they're maxed out, they'd be much stronger...

I personally dont level up a champ unless i have the intention and ability to immediate max rank them at that level... but lf you ran out of iso, that's understandable, mercifully it's one of the resources that is very obtainable.

And by doing that you skip the part where you are stealed

If you go max from the start you will not notice

So why does it matter? You get what you want in the end.

It masters because that 12 lvl up used to get the hero to the same stats as a r2 , when it could add a + to heal and atk from the start , and the iso , gold used for that , if you rank a champ its supuse to go up not down first and them up again .

They could literally make every other levels increase less valuable and make the first 12 more valuable and it doesn’t make a damn difference. You’re going to fully level them either way and they’ll end up where they’re meant to be. It’s not wasted. It’s not a scam. It’s not “R2.75”. You’re not going to notice it unless you’re scrutinising for a non issue. Get over it.

I am over it, but i dont like to pe cheated thats all

Antsiou

Zan0 said:

A maxed out r3 is 3/45 nothing less and nothing more. If they were to “fix” this it would just mean averaging out the power increase over all the level. At the end of the day you would get the same results

That is fair, and I can see that kabam decides to implement power increase any way they want. Yet, the reason given goes against what most are saying here: if you take a champ to r3, you'll max it anyway. So why the decrease in the first place? Personally I never noticed or cared, it's just odd.

Ghostboytjie

So a r2 35/35 are suppose to have higher p.i than a r3 UNLEVELED lvl 1/45? Its working as intended

Gildarts99

This thing happened to e before.the logic behind it is trash.I don't see how some summoners even agree and encourage this.bam!

Demonzfyre

Wow. This thread is....

mostlyharmlessn

Alexnls said:

Can some one explain me why does my heroes stats and prestige goes down when i rank 3 them? I have 3 r3 and with every single 1 i hâd the same issue , stats goimg down after rankup, i decide to keep track with my next r3 (cmm) and this is what happened, i had to fill 12 lvl into r3 cmm to reach the same stats as a lvl max r2... 12 lvl for nothing, the gold the iso , this is just a big fraud from kabam , i also have a video when ranking her up showing prestige and stats fall, masteries before and after rankup are the same . I really need some explinations

Basically it's like getting a promotion at work. You got promoted, but need a bit of orientation for the new job. In this case the orientation comes in the form of adding ISO....

redsoxpatsfan89

Honestly, ive never noticed this but thats probably because i always level up my champs right away anyways. And honestly, it still doesnt bother me as for me, the end result is still the same. The leveling up part only affects me for less than a minute while im actually leveling up the champ

Antsiou

mostlyharmlessn said:

Basically it's like getting a promotion at work. You got promoted, but need a bit of orientation for the new job. In this case the orientation comes in the form of adding ISO....

In my eyes, it's more akin to getting a promotion at work, and not having the pay rise associated to it until a couple of month later.
It's like saying: "you've got what it takes to go to the next level, we see that, off you go, take that promotion. But wait a minute, just show us that you're really committed then you'll be on the next level"
It's odd, but again, I don't care much for the real impact of it, I max out my R3 anyway.

pseudosane

And the point of this thread is?.....

AverageDesi

Demonzfyre

Antsiou said:

mostlyharmlessn said:

Basically it's like getting a promotion at work. You got promoted, but need a bit of orientation for the new job. In this case the orientation comes in the form of adding ISO....

In my eyes, it's more akin to getting a promotion at work, and not having the pay rise associated to it until a couple of month later.
It's like saying: "you've got what it takes to go to the next level, we see that, off you go, take that promotion. But wait a minute, just show us that you're really committed then you'll be on the next level"
It's odd, but again, I don't care much for the real impact of it, I max out my R3 anyway.

I am not sure how you even came up with that analogy because it's not how it works anyway.

This whole thread is just silly to start with. MCOC didn't invent this system as it exists everywhere. Who care what happened between ranks, you have to be at max level for the next rank anyway so no point in leaving them at weird levels. Just take them max level and on to the next rank up.

This reply isn't pointed at your comment specifically except the first sentence.

Malreck04

CoatHang3r said:

They recently said it’s to encourage players to continue with the leveling up process, believe it was Porthos who said it.

Hey “Summoner”, rest assured, this is an intentional aspect of the game. We implemented it to encourage players to Level Up their Champions after reaching a higher Rank. While in some cases, there can be an initial decrease in the Champion's attributes, they can then be Levelled Up to make them much more powerful than was possible at a lower Rank.

While it’s not a big deal, that’s dumb explanation. Why would players not want to level up their champ ?