Ranking all the Symbiotes

GrassKnuckles

All ranked without synergies and/or Odin otherwise Red Goblin, Carnage and Sym Spidey would be harder to rank. Give me your opinions pls. (Slight Bias on Anti Venom)
1. Knull
2. Anti Venom
3. Venompool
4. Venom
5. Sym Supreme
6. Red Goblin
7. Venom the Duck
8. Carnage
9. Sym Spidey
10. Agent Venom

Riptide

I think your under rating venom pool

GrassKnuckles

Riptide said:

I think your under rating venom pool

You’d put him at 2 you’re saying?

SpideyFunko

carnage above VTD in my book

Carnage lets you pick and chose your buffs without the RNG fiesta the VTD has

GrassKnuckles

SpideyFunko said:

carnage above VTD in my book

Carnage lets you pick and chose your buffs without the RNG fiesta the VTD has

Yeah but hes just so good after his first 2 fights

GinjabredMonsta

Personal opinion, VP would be ranked lower. I just don't use him and like the others more. Other than that, pretty accurate to me

GrassKnuckles

GinjabredMonsta said:

Personal opinion, VP would be ranked lower. I just don't use him and like the others more. Other than that, pretty accurate to me

Honestly him and Venom were the hardest two to pick between.

Riptide

GrassKnuckles said:

GinjabredMonsta said:

Personal opinion, VP would be ranked lower. I just don't use him and like the others more. Other than that, pretty accurate to me

Honestly him and Venom were the hardest two to pick between.

I’d rate VP over venom for sure.

In this list, I’d put him at two yeah.

I might do a write up on him soon

DarkEternity

1. Knull
2. Red Goblin
3. Venompool
4. Anti-Venom
5. SymSupreme
6. Venom
7. Venom the Duck
8. Carnage
9. Sym Spidey
10. Agent Venom

People really seem to underrate SymSupreme and Roblin for whatever reason

(Honestly I might even put Roblin at #1 but I’m not going to because I’m not 100% on all of Knull’s utility & damage vs Roblin’s)

SirGamesBond

Where's steve?

thanks4playing

Idk much about knull and antiV, but are they really that good?

Man_Bat

What niche does Anti-Venom fill, or what does he counter really well? I pulled him recently and just don't know enough about him.

GrassKnuckles

@DarkEternity are you talking about Synergized/Odinified Roblin or him by himself. Cause i said in the title that this was ranking them by themselves.

GrassKnuckles

thanks4playing said:

Idk much about knull and antiV, but are they really that good?

Knull is just ridiculous for Endgame content and AV might have the most utility out of any symbiote and Dmg that becomes ridiculous after some tme

GrassKnuckles

SirGamesBond said:

Where's steve?

Aunt Mai didn't have him so I kinda forgot...

GrassKnuckles

Man_Bat said:

What niche does Anti-Venom fill, or what does he counter really well? I pulled him recently and just don't know enough about him.

Very good heal control, great evade counter especially against spideys, unstoppable counter, counter's mystics unblockable, great sustainability through regen-ing block and some hit dmg, and insane dmg for long fights.

Helps?

Pseudo_19

Man_Bat said:

What niche does Anti-Venom fill, or what does he counter really well? I pulled him recently and just don't know enough about him.

He fills nothing besides being incinerate and poison immune along with the only science champ with nullifies. He can stack a few debuffs and has an okay petrify but you have to trade in those debuffs for any kind of damage.

DarkEternity

Pseudo_19 said:

Man_Bat said:

What niche does Anti-Venom fill, or what does he counter really well? I pulled him recently and just don't know enough about him.

He fills nothing besides being incinerate and poison immune along with the only science champ with nullifies. He can stack a few debuffs and has an okay petrify but you have to trade in those debuffs for any kind of damage.

@Pseudo_19 Reed also has nullifies

Rohit_316

I never understood the hype for Knull ...Venom imo is the best symbiote of all . King of variants and a utility beast + grt damage.

DarkEternity

GrassKnuckles said:

@DarkEternity are you talking about Synergized/Odinified Roblin or him by himself. Cause i said in the title that this was ranking them by themselves.

@GrassKnuckles No synergies, no Odin. I was talking about the utility and damage offered by base Roblin. Man has so much utility that is overlooked it's absolutely insane. Power burn immunity, Incinerate immunity, anti-miss and autoblock (if ramped and brought down to the proper percentage or with an L3, granted. Still cleans up a majority of fights where these factors come into play), energize + fury buffs, power drain, armor break, incinerate, huge damage off of the L2, etc. He is an absolute monster and it's a shame that so many people don't look into him because CGR had bigger numbers right off of the bat.

I also forgot to mention, anti spiderverse evade woooo

J0eySn0w

Rohit_316 said:

I never understood the hype for Knull ...Venom imo is the best symbiote of all . King of variants and a utility beast + grt damage.

I don’t think he’s being hype at all. Do you have him? He’s a beast dude and I don’t think enough people have him to explore his uses.
- he cut both ways, stand-alone and synergy
- Lots of debuffs, meaning you can shut down regen and at some point replace with damage when duped
- reduces combat power opens the door to other possibilities, eg recently join an active alliance and I use him on All or nothing path in Map7.
- Good regen
- Very suicide friendly, even makes him better.
- One of the best counter to armor up effects if not the best
- Decent evade and autoblock counter
- Damage damage damage
- He doesn’t rely on buff for a Cosmic, meaning he enters doors most Cosmic can’t.
His reverse control is mainly a defense ability, wish it had some benefit offensively like %DAAR.

Syndicated

Antivenom over Venom?

Ok lol

Mauled

I’m not going to comment on the whole top ten but y’all are really doing Sym Supreme dirty. He’s one of the best nullifiers in the game and has some extraordinary damage output when you use him correctly.

Moosetiptronic

DarkEternity said:

GrassKnuckles said:

@DarkEternity are you talking about Synergized/Odinified Roblin or him by himself. Cause i said in the title that this was ranking them by themselves.

@GrassKnuckles No synergies, no Odin. I was talking about the utility and damage offered by base Roblin. Man has so much utility that is overlooked it's absolutely insane. Power burn immunity, Incinerate immunity, anti-miss and autoblock (if ramped and brought down to the proper percentage or with an L3, granted. Still cleans up a majority of fights where these factors come into play), energize + fury buffs, power drain, armor break, incinerate, huge damage off of the L2, etc. He is an absolute monster and it's a shame that so many people don't look into him because CGR had bigger numbers right off of the bat.

I also forgot to mention, anti spiderverse evade woooo

The reason roblin is ranked as rubbish, is that in the cosmic class, he's not even top 10, so you would not rank him. Need incinerate? Torch.

Need to counter spider verse? Venom or VP. Want a better symbiote that's power burn immune, has buffs and does nuts damage? Again, venom or VP.

As the owner of a duped 6* roblin, I really wanted him to be great, really I desperately do. But he's so far behind CGR it's almost tragic. Not in any order, but CGR, Odin, corvus, Medusa, hype, knull, Angela, king Groot, VP, Hercules, cull, arkus, venom, terrax.... I have 6 of them as 6* and a number at 5/65 so roblin is never getting ranked.

He's not worth the resources.

Moosetiptronic

Mauled said:

I’m not going to comment on the whole top ten but y’all are really doing Sym Supreme dirty. He’s one of the best nullifiers in the game and has some extraordinary damage output when you use him correctly.

So true.

The_man001

Red goblin should be much above in the list.

1.Crazy sp2 damge, armor breaks, power drain incinerate on heavy when u have fury energize and apt buff respectively.

2. Inc immune, power burn immune, block prof 70%, quite good health pool, spider verse champs cant evade against him, and most importantly true sense from frenzy avoiding miss and autoblock


He is quite underrated cause lots of players don't use him as cosmic class is already op but among symbiotes he shouldn't be below number 2 in any way.

Skiddy212

Love the knull ranking. That is all!

altavista

Man_Bat said:

What niche does Anti-Venom fill, or what does he counter really well? I pulled him recently and just don't know enough about him.

Stacking his Decelerate debuff results in a Slow that works on anybody (no class disadvantage restriction) and has no timer on it (as long as you don't use your SP2).

13579rebel_

VtD Carried me through the 2nd half of Act 5 I think a lot of people underrate him

1 Knull
2 Venompool
3 Venom
4 Sym Supreme
5 Anti Venom
6 Roblin
7 VtD
8 Carnage
9 Agent Venom] With Kraven synergy
10 spidey

phil56201

Konstant45 said:

Also venompool > venom
Venompool does everything venom does but better

Venom's ability to regen from any buff off Sp1, evade all the Spider-Men from the start of the fight, bleeds from basic attacks, and true strike when opponent is below 18% health (esp great for IMIW) are all things Venom does better than VP. Not to say Venom does everything better than VP, but they both have areas of utility that one outshines the other in.