Surfer doesn’t have any immunities btw he just has Resistances. He Takes 100% Less Damage from Incinerate, Coldnsnap, and Shock but if I remember correctly, when a node or ability increases the potency of the effects of those debuffs, Surfer will take damage from them. If you put Surfer against Torch then as Torch Builds Smolders from the Energy Attacks you are doing you are also increasing the potency of the Incinerates which makes you take the increased potency amountI’m not too sure about this tho so take it with a grain of salt All this to say Odin better lol