Why are the matches so hard in battlegrounds?

I don’t claim to be great but I don’t think I’m a Trump either have over 106 stars 16 at rank3 and I would think maybe I just suck because these matches are ridiculous but everyone I am matched up against is losing their matches also.

This game mode has so much potential I was so excited for it but what fun is there in winning matches by seeing who loses the least worst? Lol. I fight 300+ health matches all the time and don’t have near the trouble killing defenders normally. What’s the point of the added health and the nodes like masochism anyway why is there a need for any of that if we’re gonna be matched against each other and scored on how we fight the match? Somebody is still going to win and lose with out the boosts added to the defenders. So why frustrate your player base? Isn’t there enough thinking and strategy just trying to figure out in the short amount of time what attacker to use and what defenders to use why add stuff to just frustrate people even more?

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BitterSteel

I was thinking masochism seems a bit lonely on its own…

I (mostly) joke, but seriously these nodes are not meant to be the main issue or challenge. The main issue and challenge here is a chess match between you and your opponent, banning the right champions, picking the right defenders and attackers based on who they pick or have.

Once the chess match is over, you fight and test your brawn rather than your brains. But they don’t need 10 different nodes or tons of health to make this part hard, your strategy with bans and defender picks should have done that.

Having said that, one act 5 node and a small health boost is what’s needed so you don’t just crush your opponent in a combo or two. The mode would be boring without it.

RicoShay

You have to be selective with who you bring and who you draft. An example would be Kingpin is amazing for this because he can deal with masochism but deal a lot of damage, has high block and regens throughout the fight. Which rank3's do you have because that might be why it's so hard

DNA3000

I don’t claim to be great but I don’t think I’m a **** either have over 106 stars 16 at rank3 and I would think maybe I just suck because these matches are ridiculous but everyone I am matched up against is losing their matches also.

This game mode has so much potential I was so excited for it but what fun is there in winning matches by seeing who loses the least worst? Lol. I fight 300+ health matches all the time and don’t have near the trouble killing defenders normally. What’s the point of the added health and the nodes like masochism anyway why is there a need for any of that if we’re gonna be matched against each other and scored on how we fight the match? Somebody is still going to win and lose with out the boosts added to the defenders. So why frustrate your player base? Isn’t there enough thinking and strategy just trying to figure out in the short amount of time what attacker to use and what defenders to use why add stuff to just frustrate people even more?

Like you say, someone is going to win, someone is going to lose, so what does it matter if you end with 20% health left on the defender and your opponent ends with 30%? Your objective is not to beat the defender, it is to beat the opponent. If there were no nodes at all, both sides would be destroying the defender quickly and the winner would be the one that edged out the other one by two seconds. Is that what you would prefer? One side wins because the other side momentarily lagged one second at the beginning of the fight? Or the side that happens to roll the spike damage attacker wins because he ends the fight in one SP1?

Personally, if neither side beats the defender but I win because I had 2% more health remaining, I'm fine with that. A win is a win.

The_Sentry06

Matchmaking has been pretty good for me in the sense that everyone I have matched with so far is relatively at a similar level to me or atleast I have always had the sense that I could win a match.

jbxotiic

Matchmaking has been pretty good for me in the sense that everyone I have matched with so far is relatively at a similar level to me or atleast I have always had the sense that I could win a match.

i do agree with this, I haven't been matched with someone way better than me or way worse than me yet. It's way more fun when you know you could lose or win.

Beewee

Withholding the urge to say theres a skill issue, but could just be super unlucky matchmaking for you, idk.

beaker1000

At this point almost everyone has the same amount of ranking points, the longer Battlegrounds will be live the more often you will be matched against similair skilled players.
oww, btw i'm a **** player so loose a lot in bg's, killing champs with so much hp in soo little time is not a thing i'm good at, also don't have many good defenders ranked or have enough knowledge to pick counters, but it's mostly a skill issue

Colinwhitworth69

I am fine with it. Time out a lot. Whatever.

Gildarts99

Yhyh some of us just keep getting bad internet connections each time we enter that mode.either ad connections or game just freezes and bfr u know it...boom
Match lost.amazing

Skydad23

Maybe I’m just confused with something The nodes and boosts do not seem bad on paper but why am I dying in these matches but can make it through a path in act seven without dying? And I get the point it’s about beating your opponent but win majority the time both me and the opponent are dying I don’t understand the point of having matches where people are dying more than they’re winning? Yes it’s good to still win beating your opponent even if you lose but something still doesn’t feel good about it. It’s still more fun to beat the defender you’re fighting. But like I said maybe I missing something? It took me over 80 hits to take out the rank 2 kill monger with my rank3 Warlock when I can take out winter soldier in Realm of legends with about the same amount of hits?

Maybe it’s a mastery thing I don’t know?

BitterSteel

Maybe I’m just confused with something The nodes and boosts do not seem bad on paper but why am I dying in these matches but can make it through a path in act seven without dying? And I get the point it’s about beating your opponent but win majority the time both me and the opponent are dying I don’t understand the point of having matches where people are dying more than they’re winning? Yes it’s good to still win beating your opponent even if you lose but something still doesn’t feel good about it. It’s still more fun to beat the defender you’re fighting. But like I said maybe I missing something? It took me over 80 hits to take out the rank 2 kill monger with my rank3 Warlock when I can take out winter soldier in Realm of legends with about the same amount of hits?

Maybe it’s a mastery thing I don’t know?

In act 7 you can plan a match up with as much time as you need, there’s no stress or extra pressure and you know that dying doesn’t matter, nor does taking longer.

In BG you have the challenge of picking good defenders, good attackers and picking your good defenders to counter their defenders all in a matter of minutes. That leads to bad match ups, extra pressure during the match and all of this leads to situations where you die even though it’s a really simple match up.

Killmonger with masochism is not a hard fight, but that’s not the point of it. The difficulty comes from the opponent having banned some of your good attackers, you only having a reduced deck to deal with him, maybe your good counter didn’t come up, or maybe you have to use them for a different fight. Then within all of that, during the fight you know the opponent is trying to beat your defender and you need to do it fast and lose little health.

All of this is where the challenge is. Killmonger with masochism in act 7? Easiest path in the world. Killmonger with masochism where you’re juggling all of that? That’s a rough match up.

Regarding the “I don’t understand the point of having matches where people are dying more than they’re winning?” At the end of the day it’s to judge about who does better against the fight. Maybe further down the leaderboard fights are often decided by who takes more of the opponent down, but as your skills improve, you get used to the mode and you’ll start consistently soloing the fights a huge percentage of the time.

When that happens you can really work your way up the leaderboard, and you will face similar players. And at that point, matches will be decided on who has higher health/does it faster, because all the defenders are getting soloed, and if not then it’s because of a mistake by the attacker, or intelligent banning/defender placement by the defender.

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Champ_Z

Git gud.

(No but seriously, it's pretty much the same as the practice match AI)

SirGamesBond

On earlier matches, I was a little scared but now I'm just yoloing it...
Some random matchups, when you select a different champ and the game takes another champ, just cracks me up... I even managed to win most of those too.

Sirius0130

Aside from the other named issues it uses to much energy resource. To many other areas of the game need it

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Stompya

Is the AI different from other modes? I find the defenders are insanely aggressive and I can't seem to get my basic moves together.

Yeah skill issue etc. I get that, but also I can handle fights in the Valiant gauntlet, these on paper don't look that hard but they kick my butt regularly.

Rayven5220

Is the AI different from other modes? I find the defenders are insanely aggressive and I can't seem to get my basic moves together.

Yeah skill issue etc. I get that, but also I can handle fights in the Valiant gauntlet, these on paper don't look that hard but they kick my butt regularly.

Why the hell did you revive a thread from nearly 2.5 years ago?

BringPopcorn

Holy necro...