Neutralize-Mystic Dispersion inconsistent

Macheneso

So this is an extremely specific thing not sure should be called a “bug” I noticed against Cull Obsidian. After his special1 activates a Combo shield buff with 10 counts on it.
If the buff gets neutralized by a previous stagger of Doom heavy for instance, MD counts it as one and fill that amount of bar of power, however if the combo shield buff gets nullified by Claire voyant Sp2 buff immunity MD counts it as 10 different buffs and siphon back a lot more power.
Anyone has the same thing happening?

Panchulon21

That’s because Claire’s kit has that power gain built in. Her kit allows to her gain power for every failed trigger after her special 2 lands her spell (idk why I’m drawing a blank on what it’s called right now). She gains her charges and power up to 20.

GrassKnuckles

Also it's not Neutralize, it's nullify that Doom has. When a buff gets staggered it's Nullified as well. Neutralize just lowers the ability accuracy of the buff triggering by 100% and doesn't necessarily cancel it. Hence, it won't count toward MD

RakeYoung

OP has a point tho, i remember from doing Abyss, folks would recommend bringing in Sym Supreme for Abyss Cull because Sym would count each buff as a separate Nullify but with Doom if he removed the combo shield with Stagger, it only counted as 1 nullify.

i never understood the difference, but i remember that fight taking longer with Doom for whatever reason.

Wicket329

Claire is not gaining that power via Mystic Dispersion, it is coming from her base kit. Claire gains power whenever either champion triggers an immunity. Claire applies buff immunity to the defender. That is 10 individual buffs that Cull just became immune to, and so Claire’s power gain triggers 10 times.

Stagger works in a different manner, counting the whole stack as one instance of nullification because the buffs never properly apply due to the stagger effect. If you were to throw Doom’s sp1 rather than staggering the buffs, you would see Mystic Dispersion count them individually as they are nullified off of Cull.

SirGamesBond

Macheneso said:

nullified by Claire voyant Sp2 buff immunity

Can either be nullified by sp2
Or
Prevented by buff immunity.
Both cannot happen at the same time in this matchup.

If nullified, power gained will be 10 MD counter.
If prevented, 4% power gained for each 10 Buffs.

Now about the bug.
I never noticed doom vs cull stagger MD power due to doom cycle.
But I'm certain when doom staggers KingGroot's furies, we get power for all furies from MD.

DrZola

I’ve never been satisfied with the way MD is described (“gain 8% Power each time a Buff is Nullified or Expires off their Opponent” at 4/5).

Is that 8% of all “Power”? 8% of a bar of power? If a mystic champ nullified all 12 of Groot’s buffs, would that be 96% of full power? Rarely does it feel like that.

One of the many areas that could benefit from more explicit and clearer description.

Dr. Zola