Why is nobody talking about the Red Magneto change?

awesomesauce

Does this mean I can no longer infinitely hold heavy and it'll auto throw on it's own, or will the unstoppable buff go away and you can continue holding heavy?

If it's the later, magneto just got a lot easier to fight against. If it's the former, this will be annoying on certain matchups (especially in abyss vs tech champs for instance)

Why the change? Is there a node in eternity of pain or act 8 that he makes too easy? I don't think this ability made him "broken"

danielmath

it's not one of his abilities, a champ being able to hold heavy forever is a specific ability so no reason mags should be bugged if they can fix it

awesomesauce

So should they fix quake then too by that logic? She was never meant to be the way she is.

Zippy_halligan

It was a bug where you could let chain heavies and be unstoppable for the whole fight. Doesnt change anything about the champ, just a fix.

GrassKnuckles

It’s not a bad change

CyborgNinja135

awesomesauce said:

So should they fix quake then too by that logic? She was never meant to be the way she is.

Except Quake doesn't really hold her heavy forever. Every time she evades or you dex you have to start charging heavy again. Also, the change doesn't really change anything. It only took a few seconds to multiply your prowess. Magneto will still be as broken op as before.

Pikolu

CyborgNinja135 said:

awesomesauce said:

So should they fix quake then too by that logic? She was never meant to be the way she is.

Except Quake doesn't really hold her heavy forever. Every time she evades or you dex you have to start charging heavy again. Also, the change doesn't really change anything. It only took a few seconds to multiply your prowess. Magneto will still be as broken op as before.

Quake does hold her heavy forever, face the easy AI in arena, parry, medium, hold heavy. They won't move, so you can get 20 aftershocks on them.

CoatHang3r

Magneto is supposed to lose his unstoppable after being struck while holding his heavy. Currently If you spam heavy you can keep the unstoppable active indefinitely in spite of being hit and while it is supposed to be on cooldown, they are fixing that.

GroundedWisdom

awesomesauce said:

Does this mean I can no longer infinitely hold heavy and it'll auto throw on it's own, or will the unstoppable buff go away and you can continue holding heavy?

If it's the later, magneto just got a lot easier to fight against. If it's the former, this will be annoying on certain matchups (especially in abyss vs tech champs for instance)

Why the change? Is there a node in eternity of pain or act 8 that he makes too easy? I don't think this ability made him "broken"

It was quite literally broken.

awesomesauce

CoatHang3r said:

Magneto is supposed to lose his unstoppable after being struck while holding his heavy. Currently If you spam heavy you can keep the unstoppable active indefinitely in spite of being hit and while it is supposed to be on cooldown, they are fixing that.

Thank you for the clarification with this context. Previously I didn't understand and reading that one line change I didn't know.

Though every time I was struck while charging heavy with magneto, I always got a cooldown timer for the unstoppable. Was that broken?

Angryneeson52

Rip magneto

MaxGaming

Dang it my act 5.4.6 Ultron Cheese strategy

Malreck04

RIP WS farming with mags

Worknprogress

awesomesauce said:

So should they fix quake then too by that logic? She was never meant to be the way she is.

Yes, they should have fixed her years ago bc she's broken and trivializes 90% of the game

Immortal

Agreed (can’t quake)

SpideyFunko

was bug where you could chain heAcura and even if you got hit you’d be permanently unstoppable

phillgreen

Im probably doing it wrong but I only ever used this in arena. Can someone tell me why this nerf was necessary outside of arena?

GinjabredMonsta

phillgreen said:

Im probably doing it wrong but I only ever used this in arena. Can someone tell me why this nerf was necessary outside of arena?

Because it's not a nerf

AverageDesi

phillgreen said:

Im probably doing it wrong but I only ever used this in arena. Can someone tell me why this nerf was necessary outside of arena?

Bug fixes for consistency. It's very probable future champs come with the same wording and then discrepancy occurs if they behave differently

Lpoo

SpideyFunko said:

was bug where you could chain heAcura and even if you got hit you’d be permanently unstoppable

Spidey you ok?

Demonzfyre

phillgreen said:

Im probably doing it wrong but I only ever used this in arena. Can someone tell me why this nerf was necessary outside of arena?

How is fixing a bug a nerf?

DNA3000

phillgreen said:

Im probably doing it wrong but I only ever used this in arena. Can someone tell me why this nerf was necessary outside of arena?

Are you actually asking why it might be necessary to fix a bug that would allow Magneto to become permanently unstoppable?

PapaMidnite007

It changes nothing but I'll be happy because it'll be easier to fight him

BitterSteel

PapaMidnite007 said:

It changes nothing but I'll be happy because it'll be easier to fight him

It won’t change anything about how to fight him, this was an offensive bug.

While he’s on defence he will still go unstoppable the same as normal. While on attack he will still go unstoppable while you charge heavy, the bug was that you could stay unstoppable even after being hit/throwing the heavy and be permanently unstoppable - see the GIF posted earlier in the thread.

DrZola

Going to try this again…

Please only fix the permanent unstoppable during heavy issue.

Dr. Zola

SpideyFunko

Lpoo said:

SpideyFunko said:

was bug where you could chain heAcura and even if you got hit you’d be permanently unstoppable

Spidey you ok?

not really

autocorrect strikes again

K00shMaan

awesomesauce said:

CoatHang3r said:

Magneto is supposed to lose his unstoppable after being struck while holding his heavy. Currently If you spam heavy you can keep the unstoppable active indefinitely in spite of being hit and while it is supposed to be on cooldown, they are fixing that.

Thank you for the clarification with this context. Previously I didn't understand and reading that one line change I didn't know.

Though every time I was struck while charging heavy with magneto, I always got a cooldown timer for the unstoppable. Was that broken?

That's how it was intended to work and how it will moving forward. How it was working now is that if you started charging a heavy before the animation finished he wouldn't actually lose the unstopppable and if you kept repeating this you'd be infinitely unstoppable even while the cooldown was happening. If at any point you lost the unstoppable, you would then have to wait for the cooldown to finish before you could activate it again. It's a small change and it was definitely a bug.

K00shMaan

phillgreen said:

Im probably doing it wrong but I only ever used this in arena. Can someone tell me why this nerf was necessary outside of arena?

I guess you're not as wrong as you sound. It was obviously not a really viable play style for any competitive content. I did use it a few times where instead of actually using autofight, I would just charge heavies with Magneto as it got the fights down a little quicker and I could still pay almost no attention.