Mole-Man true accuracy removed during Frenzy.

Mole Man: True Accuracy no longer remains active while in Frenzy mode.

It was bound to happen.

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Yeah I’ll take an rank down ticket now please. This has been something he has been able to do for literally years, this completely changes him. I’d like my catalysts back please
Literally years? No. Since his buff last February. He's been bugged that long. His kit literally states it falls off during frenzy.
Wrong. It clearly without any doubt states that if you activate frenzy below 10 monstermass and you keep it below 10 monstermass, he will still have true strike.

Fun fact. You keep true accuracy above 10 monster mass if you went into frenzy under 10. Enjoy it for two more days.

psp742

It's sad that assumption trumps facts.. if champion is not working as described, it can go either way positive or negatively.. Moleman had a bug that kept true strike while he was in frenzy mode (if you happen to benefit from the bug by doing content an otherwise normal Moleman couldn't) then you got something out of it.. but if the champion doesn't perform base on his/her description.. then Kabam needs to correct the error.. example King Groot with Man-thing synergy.. which did not work.. after it was corrected.. King Groot got a bug that only gave him one fury in malice instead if three.. kabam says this will be corrected this coming update.. that is at least a months worth of bug for King Groot which lowered his ability.

So by having Moleman bug for 1yr +months.. it is matter of time wherein he would be corrected.. albeit fingers crossed kabam makes some changes and allow Moleman to keep his true-strike while in frenzy.

Yes please.. whatever happens, he is still a good champion.

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GhostOfYost

https://youtu.be/Tp4W8wIHXA8

I’d like to know why, when Symbiote Supreme had a year-long mismatch between his description and his actual functionality, a mistake that he was launched with, the description was changed rather than the ability. But in the case of MM, the ability was changed. The cases are nearly identical, and the decision of what to change was the opposite. The only seemingly commonality in the decision is that the outcome of each was option that hurt the players more.

Please revert Moleman to his pre-“fix” state and update his description. Follow the precedent you already set with Moleman.

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jana2111

Hi- the so called "fix" of MM was unnecessary. This has been going on for a year and a half. Suddenly saying we are fixing a bug instead of matching his abilities certainly feels like a nerf. It still takes a decent amount of skill to keep under 10 monster masses and be in frenzy. In our alliance there are 30 people, most are not here in forums but all of us are equally disappointed and there has been a lot of discussion. Everyone equally felt it was a bad move.The July 4 excitement was "soured" by this change and people were hesistant to spend as well.

This was not the case when ultron was "fixed" when bugged as we realised that because of the sp3 bug it could make him too good for everest content.

MM is an unique skill champ and abilities should not be nerfed. Rather his description should reflect his abilities. I saw Kabam jax's response but this reflects how poorly game developers know how champions are being used in actual game. It is not just an issue of communication disconnect but more than that, developers do not know how champions are being used which is the bigger issue than communication.

So I would request kabam on behalf of my alliance to match moleman's description to his abilities not the other way around.

Tempest_024

I feel like a nice compromise would be to have true strike in frenzy below 10 mass. That make you do a balancing act with the frenzy.

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Idyslim

Please spare Moleman & the players who invested in him…don’t change him 🙏

GOTG

Got 6* Angela and MM from a nexus yesterday and choose Angela. MM would be good if he is not going to be fixed. Really sad for MM.

Fred1

Regarding its specifications, moleman is clearly well balanced: it's not the best character (even it's top tier) but you need to have it in your "toolbox" to clear some content.

That's why I've put mine 6r3. Moreover it's fun to play and letting him keeping its true accuracy (in some condition) during frenzy compensate the loss of purifying debuff. That's why it's well balanced.

I really hope the moleman kit will stay as it is in the game... and only its description will be updated !

Fred

Squammo

I’m just one simple player, but I think that a compromise can be reached in his case.

Changing his Kit to “If Moleman reaches 10 Monster Mass while he has true accuracy active he will lose the true accuracy. It can only be reactivated once his Monster Mass has depleted and a new cycle begins”

Burrito2525

I’m just one simple player, but I think that a compromise can be reached in his case.

Changing his Kit to “If Moleman reaches 10 Monster Mass while he has true accuracy active he will lose the true accuracy. It can only be reactivated once his Monster Mass has depleted and a new cycle begins”

Or…. leave him how he is. Why should there be a compromise at this point 18 months in. This add nothing to the broken game and annoys a bunch of people for no reason at all. How is this priority, should be off the table. Have someone edit 1 sentence i a description and move on to other issues.

Squammo

I’m just one simple player, but I think that a compromise can be reached in his case.

Changing his Kit to “If Moleman reaches 10 Monster Mass while he has true accuracy active he will lose the true accuracy. It can only be reactivated once his Monster Mass has depleted and a new cycle begins”

Or…. leave him how he is. Why should there be a compromise at this point 18 months in. This add nothing to the broken game and annoys a bunch of people for no reason at all. How is this priority, should be off the table. Have someone edit 1 sentence i a description and move on to other issues.

Sure, I’m all for that, but I would rather still be able to use his accuracy while frenzy is active and keep his charges in check, than only being able to use the accuracy without frenzy. Might as well remove the buff then, since I would not be using him for those fights anymore anyways.

Lion2407

I Need A Rank down Ticket for my 6* r4 to R3 please fast.... So Fury goes R4...

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KnightNvrEnding

I’m not gonna hate on fixing bugs(granted these days bugs are like hydras lol) but waiting THIS long to fix a bug like this is crazy lol

GroundedWisdom

There's an assumption here that they just waited by choice. We don't know the reason it took this long. They could have been busy with other things. They could have been investigating it. They could have decided to leave it until it posed another problem. We just don't know. I get the question of communication, but it being left isn't an indication that's how they should work.

AverageDesi

There's an assumption here that they just waited by choice. We don't know the reason it took this long. They could have been busy with other things. They could have been investigating it. They could have decided to leave it until it posed another problem. We just don't know. I get the question of communication, but it being left isn't an indication that's how they should work.
It didn’t show up once in the bug and known issues page once in the last 16 months (though a separate moleman issue did). So we can take the investigation assumption off the table.

If it was a simple description issue, it would have been changed long ago.

Hyperion has had his description wrong for like 5 or 6 years or something.and they haven't touched it.

Archangel is getting a correction after 5 years.

BitterSteel

There's an assumption here that they just waited by choice. We don't know the reason it took this long. They could have been busy with other things. They could have been investigating it. They could have decided to leave it until it posed another problem. We just don't know. I get the question of communication, but it being left isn't an indication that's how they should work.
It didn’t show up once in the bug and known issues page once in the last 16 months (though a separate moleman issue did). So we can take the investigation assumption off the table.

If it was a simple description issue, it would have been changed long ago.
Hyperion has had his description wrong for like 5 or 6 years or something.and they haven't touched it.

Archangel is getting a correction after 5 years.

Night crawler is getting a correction after 5 years, Surging vengeance is still wrong.

I’m sure you could find so many discrepancies if you went looking. It was likely that Moleman was bugged but it was nowhere near confirmed or guaranteed. We had no reason to believe it either way since Kabam never deigned to comment.

GroundedWisdom

Except that's been there since his release.

AverageDesi

There's an assumption here that they just waited by choice. We don't know the reason it took this long. They could have been busy with other things. They could have been investigating it. They could have decided to leave it until it posed another problem. We just don't know. I get the question of communication, but it being left isn't an indication that's how they should work.
It didn’t show up once in the bug and known issues page once in the last 16 months (though a separate moleman issue did). So we can take the investigation assumption off the table.

If it was a simple description issue, it would have been changed long ago.
Hyperion has had his description wrong for like 5 or 6 years or something.and they haven't touched it.

Archangel is getting a correction after 5 years.
Kabam never deigned to comment.

This is my single gripe in this whole fiasco. I couldn't care less if they deleted moleman from the game but not bothering to comment once whether or not he was bugged after a plethora of threads is just awful. I know ziibit does well but i wish there was more people just for communicating bugs

AverageDesi

Except that's been there since his release.
So if it was a simple description issue it would have been changed immediately... unless the description issue's been there since the champion's release.

Any other rules we should be aware of?
Rule 3: goalposts may be moved at any time
Which, whether you like it or not, is Kabam’s right to do so, and something that every player has agreed to by accepting the TOS.

And just in case anyone wants to jump on me about pointing this out, I am neither for or against the changing of Moleman. I have a R3 myself and see both sides of the argument.

I don't think bitter is speaking about Kabam

BitterSteel

Except that's been there since his release.
So if it was a simple description issue it would have been changed immediately... unless the description issue's been there since the champion's release.

Any other rules we should be aware of?
Rule 3: goalposts may be moved at any time
Which, whether you like it or not, is Kabam’s right to do so, and something that every player has agreed to by accepting the TOS.

And just in case anyone wants to jump on me about pointing this out, I am neither for or against the changing of Moleman. I have a R3 myself and see both sides of the argument.

I wasn’t talking about that, I was talking about how first it’s ‘simple description issues get fixed quick’, then when reminded that there are plenty of simple descriptions that haven’t been fixed or have been fixed a long time after, it’s then ‘except that’s been there since his release’.

GroundedWisdom

I've used Moleman for a while now. Before the buff. I'm aware of how he operates. People are just catching on now because they barely even touched him until the buff.

BitterSteel

I've used Moleman for a while now. Before the buff. I'm aware of how he operates. People are just catching on now because they barely even touched him until the buff.

How do you know Kabam didn’t want to change how he worked after his buff?

Right, we can’t. Because Kabam never said whether it was a bug or not.

GroundedWisdom

I've used Moleman for a while now. Before the buff. I'm aware of how he operates. People are just catching on now because they barely even touched him until the buff.
How do you know Kabam didn’t want to change how he worked after his buff?

Right, we can’t. Because Kabam never said whether it was a bug or not.

Clearly they did, if they're fixing it.

BitterSteel

I've used Moleman for a while now. Before the buff. I'm aware of how he operates. People are just catching on now because they barely even touched him until the buff.
How do you know Kabam didn’t want to change how he worked after his buff?

Right, we can’t. Because Kabam never said whether it was a bug or not.
Clearly they did, if they're fixing it.

How did you know that before last week when it was announced?

GroundedWisdom

I've used Moleman for a while now. Before the buff. I'm aware of how he operates. People are just catching on now because they barely even touched him until the buff.
How do you know Kabam didn’t want to change how he worked after his buff?

Right, we can’t. Because Kabam never said whether it was a bug or not.
Clearly they did, if they're fixing it.
How did you know that before last week when it was announced?

I've noticed it wasn't working for some time. It's already been posted. There was no need for me to repost the issue.

BitterSteel

I've used Moleman for a while now. Before the buff. I'm aware of how he operates. People are just catching on now because they barely even touched him until the buff.
How do you know Kabam didn’t want to change how he worked after his buff?

Right, we can’t. Because Kabam never said whether it was a bug or not.
Clearly they did, if they're fixing it.
How did you know that before last week when it was announced?
I've noticed it wasn't working for some time. It's already been posted. There was no need for me to repost the issue.

What are you talking about?

I’m saying without Kabam’s confirmation either way we had no way to tell if it was a description issue or a bug.

What you’ve said there is quite clearly nothing to do with what I asked.

How did you know that Kabam viewed it as a bug without them confirming it?