Where is the Loyalty?
RotaVirus1982
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In short, with the new addition of rank 4 materials to the loyalty store, a lot of us who purchased the Unstoppable Colossus’s are feeling left out in the cold, we are certainly not feeling compensated for our loyalty here kabam, one thing you might consider doing is buffing the champion to reflect its cost, that would at least feel a little more fair.
Sincerely.
Sincerely.
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Would anyone be interested if there was a certain way to earn more loyalty by using higher rarities of UC? Like if you use him as a war attacker you get a loyalty boost, or in some special alliance event or something? Something like that could be easily implemented and provide a reasonable response that nobody (lol already typed that so I'll leave it, but I should know the forums better by now) should complain about. UC was not an amazing investment initially, but this would actually give a reason to play him, incentive for people to ever buy him now with all the better deals, and more loyalty to people who bought him because loyalty was a laughable resource if you didn't play high-tier war or hadn't unlocked masteries in the last 5 years.
Keep playing AW and build up Loyalty, and then buy some stuff. You are not owed anything.
If they wanna buff UC, fine with me. Maybe then there would be a good reason to buy him.
For the record, nothing against refunds being issued, there’s just not much of a case for it.
But no, a refund is not in order for those who purchased the champion. You got what you paid for. The currency is more valuable now than it was at the time of sale, but that doesn’t change the fact that you chose to exchange that currency for this specific champion and you received the benefit of that bargain.
It’s absolutely a bummer. I get that and I commiserate with people who bought Unstoppable Colossus. But it’s bad business and a bad precedent to allow for refunds because the game grew.
Does it mean you deserve compensation? No. Does it really suck and could it have been mitigated by some hints from Kabam or a hitherto unnecessary and unfruitful hoarding of gems? Yes.
I’m all for comping when it’s legitimately warranted, but “we deserve comp!!!” seems to be the rallying cry around here lately and, quite frankly, used to death. We all need to stop being so damn entitled and own our stuff, mistakes and all.
This isn't a harmless change. It signals to players something the game tries hard to signal the opposite: that choices don't have consequences. If you're sitting on a few million loyalty and there''s no obvious valuable thing to spend it on, you can just do whatever you want with it because if something valuable does come along, you'll have lost nothing. That choice has no downside. Spend, because if you get upset later on the game will make you whole.
When choices have no consequences, there are no actual choices. Games are about choices. And whether people want to acknowledge this or not, resource management is a significant part of the game. It isn't a meaningless chore, it is as important as dexing and intercepting. All resources have value. They all have current value and they all have some unknown future value. You make a choice about how to use those resources, and you live with that choice knowing that the future will be different, and there may be better choices, and if you want access to those future choices you make the right choices today.
If a player thought UC was worthless they shouldn't have bought him. If they thought he was safe to buy because there would be no negative consequences spending a million loyalty on him, they were wrong. They should learn they were wrong, so they don't do that again.
Every choice has meaning and consequences. Even the ones you think don't.
It may have been you that responded to me the other day (if not, this isn't really @ you, but I wanted to continue the thought), but this just also brings up a point I made previously. Again, I don't really expect any sort of compensation for my decision, but this is an area that Kabam could really improve on communication. A simple "for all you *loyal* summoners out there, look out for a massive update on your loyalty store in a few months time" would have gone a long way. I think the previous response was along the lines of there still being plenty of players who would have bought UC the day before the post, ending in the same predicament. This is where I would like to argue that communication before change matters. Sure, those people would still have traded a massive amount of loyalty in, but many other summoners who weren't really interested in UC would have had some reason to hold out, and those who did buy him would have plenty of time to build back up their stash of loyalty by the time the store actually opened. Sure, there is not a huge difference in the scenarios, but the psychological impact seems distinctly different. Then again, I'm an engineer and not a Psychologist. What do I know.
Now I pulled herc,I need my r2-3 gem back
had i known there would have been another use for loyalty other than buying the newly expensive pots for AW, i wouldnt have built the stash i did and just bought pots as needed.
The real fix here that's required is for him to be buffed. Especially as Colossus and Juggs have both gone through the buff process. Seems silly now that he's supposed to be a hybrid of the two and yet has none of their ability.
People who maybe did it 2 months ago when the previous loyalty store changes happened, and a lot of people decided to quit war because it was to expensive for meme rewards: I'd maybe feel bad for / they thought they were getting the most useful thing they could... but its not like loyalty has a hard cap or expires like glory... I'd say they are stuck if it were my call.
I'd be more interested to see if there become alternative ways to get the champ now, since the way the loyalty store works is different... should 6 star UC go into the "gifting crystal replacements" as the new trophy champ? Not exactly a good champ, but neither was thanos.
The only way he even remotely justifies the loyalty cost is that this is the only way to obtain him.
Still think he needs a buff though even if it were a minor one. He doesn't have to be a world beater but it would be nice if there was reason to play him once in a while.