**WE ARE NO LONGER Temporarily Reverting Tier 1 War Ban System**

After further discussion, the game team has made the decision not make adjustements to the ban system.
The previously proposed fix would have resolved the issue for Summoners who are on the cusp of T1/T2 play, and negatively impacted Alliances more securely in T1. Instead, we recommend that cusp Alliances switch to Manual Placement to your members to place the allotted 5 Ban Champions limit there.

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How the heck did we lose this Off-season War

TheParasiteTheParasite Posts: 408 ★★
edited November 2022 in General Discussion


We had 1 Defender kill more than the opponent
We finished War in less duration than the opponent
We Still lost

What the heck is going on with the calculations
@Kabam Miike
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    TheBair123TheBair123 Posts: 5,344 ★★★★★
    That is super weird
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    TheParasiteTheParasite Posts: 408 ★★
    edited November 2022
    @TheBair123 I think even War Results are based on RNG as the crystals. It seems like one

    What if it is a bug and this affects the upcoming season @Kabam Miike
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    What in the actual fatty is that @Kabam Miike or any kabam employee
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    WorknprogressWorknprogress Posts: 7,233 ★★★★★



    We had 1 Defender kill more than the opponent
    We finished War in less duration than the opponent
    We Still lost

    What the heck is going on with the calculations
    @Kabam Miike

    Some of your defender kills didn't "count" bc they were after any attack bonuses had already been lost to that fight
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    WorknprogressWorknprogress Posts: 7,233 ★★★★★
    Actually, ABs are tied as well looking at it again.
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    TheParasiteTheParasite Posts: 408 ★★
    the duration of getting a defender kill should be calculated as a whole, even if they fight 25 times on a single fight
    how can they calculate things like this % wise,
    does the RNG rule apply to this too
    be practical on things mate
    It is the incapability of the opponent(in this case) in the first place to finish late. So how does that come into consideration. @SummonerNR
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    TheParasiteTheParasite Posts: 408 ★★
    we have won wars in the past with few points difference in fight duration. this is not the first time we are getting tie. It is absolutely busted here
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    TheParasiteTheParasite Posts: 408 ★★
    edited November 2022
    everything gets affected by this one mistake, we are pushed to next lower tier next war, we are losing the loyalty. Now we will be matched with some lower tier opponents which give 3-4 less war rating for the upcoming war. It also affects the war rating which we will be starting at for the next season

    This is a serious issue to be addressed. It affects the whole system
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    SummonerNRSummonerNR Posts: 11,135 Guardian
    edited November 2022

    the duration of getting a defender kill should be calculated as a whole, even if they fight 25 times on a single fight
    how can they calculate things like this % wise,
    does the RNG rule apply to this too
    be practical on things mate
    It is the incapability of the opponent(in this case) in the first place to finish late. So how does that come into consideration. @SummonerNR

    (Re-emphasizing, this would in now way have affected your situation, which indeed seems to be the wrong result)
    But saying just in cases where less fights, or less defenders, are done. You would essentially get to count ZERO time for passing over an empty defensive node, or skipping whole paths and thus not fighting.

    Thus I was hypothesizing that the Fight Duration might be converted into time per-fight or per-node before being used as the tie-breaker, Just so that you don’t get to SKIP having fight time for fights that aren’t even done (skipped or empty).

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    (edit) Just as a very extreme example, if opponents not places a Boss on the whole map. You could explore and finish it with a Total Fight Duration time of say 180 seconds (full 3 min, single fight).
    And if you only placed Boss and 1 other guard on whole map, if opponents did full 3 min on boss and quick 20 seconds on guard. By duration along 180 beats 200, but on average it would be 180 vs 100.
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    TheParasiteTheParasite Posts: 408 ★★
    is that fair pointing system???
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    (“only placed” a boss)
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    TheParasiteTheParasite Posts: 408 ★★
    that is so hilarious (on edit)
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    TheParasiteTheParasite Posts: 408 ★★
    edited November 2022
    if we raise a ticket on this... those ppl respond after 6-7 days answering that
    "if it was a current situation they have records, since the war has ended a week back, they dont have data to backtrack things and cannot help"

    that is how the ticket response is
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    I don’t see how it is not a bug.
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    TheParasiteTheParasite Posts: 408 ★★
    @DanielRodriguez0716 the system knows to calculate the time duration and display on the status report. but the system doesnt know to operate on what it says. Bug just before the start of the new season
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    GhostboytjieGhostboytjie Posts: 2,232 ★★★★★
    Their gaming chairs were just better.
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    InsaneSkullInsaneSkull Posts: 318 ★★
    edited November 2022
    LoL. Even interns can code better than these kabam employees. Silly bugs :grey_question:
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    TheParasiteTheParasite Posts: 408 ★★

    Their gaming chairs were just better.

    just their gaming chairs were better
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    TheParasiteTheParasite Posts: 408 ★★
    @booscka2536 yes they had 1 extra KO on boss (4) that will make the defender kills 17-17 equal. So our points were tied. But that is not the case here. See the fight duration, that is the deciding factor when the points are tied. We finished war faster than them and still they won
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    SnizzbarSnizzbar Posts: 2,151 ★★★★★
    Is it their lower war rating that was the tiebreaker? If they started on 2052 and you started on 2063 then does the system think they did better if it was a tie?
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    HavanaknightHavanaknight Posts: 468 ★★★
    First off, congrats for being the first person to ever have a legit complaint about war score.

    Grasping at straws, but what rewards did you get? Is it possible this is a visual bug but the rewards were consistent with a win (yes, highly unlikely, just thinking outside the box).
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    TheParasiteTheParasite Posts: 408 ★★

    First off, congrats for being the first person to ever have a legit complaint about war score.

    Grasping at straws, but what rewards did you get? Is it possible this is a visual bug but the rewards were consistent with a win (yes, highly unlikely, just thinking outside the box).

    War DEFEAT
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