Pause technique - promoted next level - BG

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I just took this season off my self because I rather not play than cheat because it’s cheating @Demonzfyre but until Kabam does something about it people will continue to exploit it. Then again if they didn’t create meta like the one we have now people wouldn’t need to do this for a win.

No way your gonna tell me all these people who are complaining about the current meta are wrong and the smaller percentage of people who like it are correct and Kabam knows and still does nothing about it.

Cheating/Exploiting/Fair Play- Pausing is neither an exploit or cheating, it falls under fair play. It's no different than the Corvus timeout method used in AQ. Full transparency, I used the CG timeout method a few times but never relied on it. Pressing pause is not against the rules, it's not an offense you can get banned for or anything like that. It's strictly just a matter of what's considered fair play. It's looked down on because it goes against the spirt of what the game mode is.

As far as Kabam is concerned, why is a company required to make immediate changes because the players constantly don't want to play fairly? This is similar to how COD players feel about campers. That play style is universally hated because there's no skill involved. Should Infinity Ward redesign the game to get rid of campers? No. That's not what should happen. The community should hold those people that feel the need to camp or hit pause up to a higher standard.

There are other reasons to need the pause button like scratching your nose or something similar. Is it fair to keep taking things away from those to are playing the mode fairly?

Meta/Node choices- Lets not pretend that this is a new thing with not wanting a certain level of difficulty. This is a age ol battle that has been waged since the start of the game. People dislike the node combinations mostly for a few reasons-
1. Lack of depth in their roster.
2. Lack of diversity in their roster.
3. Lack of knowledge of the game in general.
4. Lack of wanting to do anything remotely considered difficult yet expecting top notch rewards.

We've seen people asking for nerfs to nearly every piece of content that as been introduced because they just want the rewards without actually earning them. They don't want difficult content. They don't want to be challenged. They want to take the highest damage champ they have and speed run through everything without any resistance. Act 6 was nerfed twice. Twice. We have a long history of complaining about difficulty and not wanting to learn how to handle counter that difficulty. It's always cries for "Nerf Cav MEQ "any boss here"" or EoP is too hard, SoP is too hard etc...

is this the most fun meta? No, not by a long shot. Are there counters? Yes, plenty. Will we get over it? Yep, and we'll be on to the next piece of content that someone doesn't want to do because it's too much for them.

Gauntlet comes back tomorrow and EoP on the 18th. We'll see it happen with those.

GroundedWisdom

This just proves how bad the meta is, nothing else, this didnt happen in last seasons

To be honest, every Season has people trying to take the easy way out and take advantage of the system. This is just the latest iteration. Modding, Sandbagging, Pausing, it's all the same really. People want Rewards without earning them properly.

Manup456

@Jefechuta Exactly and they could have adjusted the meta to create a balance in the community and they choose not to do anything. At any point if something in the game was off and was favoring the players and affecting them it would be attended to ASAP no question because we have seen it before.

Demonzfyre

@Jefechuta Exactly and they could have adjusted the meta to create a balance in the community and they choose not to do anything. At any point if something in the game was off and was favoring the players and affecting them it would be attended to ASAP no question because we have seen it before.

Why can't the community just adjust and learn to play the nodes? Your 2nd comment makes no sense and isn't related to anything talked about here.

Chatterofforums

Easy solution to stop the pause and time out strategy. Do what should be done to begin with and fix matchmaking to where everyone in a certain tier can play each other since we all playing for same rewards anyways.

I guarantee those pause and time outs will stop very quick when they are no longer getting matched up with and taking advantage of only weak players. This strategy doesn't work against good rosters/players.

Jefechuta

This just proves how bad the meta is, nothing else, this didnt happen in last seasons
To be honest, every Season has people trying to take the easy way out and take advantage of the system. This is just the latest iteration. Modding, Sandbagging, Pausing, it's all the same really. People want Rewards without earning them properly.

Not really, this was able last seasons too, but they didnt use it, because was not worth it, and is as easy as, when its worth more pausing the game than playing, then you just realize that this meta is not good, not for VT at least.

@Jefechuta Exactly and they could have adjusted the meta to create a balance in the community and they choose not to do anything. At any point if something in the game was off and was favoring the players and affecting them it would be attended to ASAP no question because we have seen it before.
Why can't the community just adjust and learn to play the nodes? Your 2nd comment makes no sense and isn't related to anything talked about here.

Because the nodes are about only playing X champs, because otherwise you wont be able to play, its too restrictive, nodes of VT must let you play but you have to adapt, this aint about adapting to the meta, this is about playing ONLY X champs, thats why is a bad meta.

This meta should be put on GC, in VT you should put nodes that make you change your playstyle or make some champs better than the others, but restricting you to only play those champs its very different

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Manup456

@Demonzfyre why are you in pretty much every thread where people have an issue with something Kabam is doing or has done your protecting them like you work for the company and have some insight on how they work. If the mods were as active as you we would be in good shape.

It totally has to do with this because my point is anytime the player base has an issue or something doesn’t work we wait and wait and when it’s something that affects them it’s handled ASAP.

It’s about numbers and you’re not gonna tell me all these threads and people complaining about BG are wrong and it’s not an issue because a smaller percentage of the player base thinks it’s just fine.

TheBair123

i don't understand why people think pausing is such an issue. if you can't pick good counters and beat someone who's getting 15k points every round, you don't deserve to win

Manup456

@TheBair123 So it’s not an issue and all these threads and people complaining because they are having the issues or exploiting this are wrong and you’re right?

The fact is people are doing it and cheating and others are suffering because of it.

GroundedWisdom

This just proves how bad the meta is, nothing else, this didnt happen in last seasons
To be honest, every Season has people trying to take the easy way out and take advantage of the system. This is just the latest iteration. Modding, Sandbagging, Pausing, it's all the same really. People want Rewards without earning them properly.
Not really, this was able last seasons too, but they didnt use it, because was not worth it, and is as easy as, when its worth more pausing the game than playing, then you just realize that this meta is not good, not for VT at least.
@Jefechuta Exactly and they could have adjusted the meta to create a balance in the community and they choose not to do anything. At any point if something in the game was off and was favoring the players and affecting them it would be attended to ASAP no question because we have seen it before.
Why can't the community just adjust and learn to play the nodes? Your 2nd comment makes no sense and isn't related to anything talked about here.
Because the nodes are about only playing X champs, because otherwise you wont be able to play, its too restrictive, nodes of VT must let you play but you have to adapt, this aint about adapting to the meta, this is about playing ONLY X champs, thats why is a bad meta.

This meta should be put on GC, in VT you should put nodes that make you change your playstyle or make some champs better than the others, but restricting you to only play those champs its very different

That's a slippery slope. That's like saying people didn't bend the rules because it wasn't as advantageous. Either way you look at it, it's Rewards for NOT playing.
The game is filled with Nodes that narrow our choices. It's inevitable with the sheer number of Champs we have in the game. It's not a given that we should use any Champ we choose, especially in highly-competitive aspects of the game. It's just as much about having the right counters as it is playing successfully.

Jefechuta

@Demonzfyre why are you in pretty much every thread where people have an issue with something Kabam is doing or has done your protecting them like you work for the company and have some insight on how they work. If the mods were as active as you we would be in good shape.

It totally has to do with this because my point is anytime the player base has an issue or something doesn’t work we wait and wait and when it’s something that affects them it’s handled ASAP.

It’s about numbers and you’re not gonna tell me all these threads and people complaining about BG are wrong and it’s not an issue because a smaller percentage of the player base thinks it’s just fine.

I think he is Miike's alt hahahaha (Just joking Kabam dont be mad)

Manup456

Here we go lol what’s a thread without the other unofficial mod 😆

A proper ranked system in any other game difficulty is based on progression and they dropped the ball with the meta and it’s creating other issue period. If you can’t see that I don’t know what to tell you.

TheBair123

@ TheBair123 So it’s not an issue and all these threads and people complaining because they are having the issues or exploiting this are wrong and you’re right?

nope, not what i'm saying in the slightest. a lot of people have a problem with it. that doesn't make it a problem. there's nothing wrong with people just setting their device down for 2 minutes and getting 15,000 points every round. i would be very happy if my opponents did that every round. if you want to win matches in any meta, you need to be able to plan and get counters for fights that'll get you more than people that just pause

Demonzfyre

@Demonzfyre why are you in pretty much every thread where people have an issue with something Kabam is doing or has done your protecting them like you work for the company and have some insight on how they work. If the mods were as active as you we would be in good shape.

It totally has to do with this because my point is anytime the player base has an issue or something doesn’t work we wait and wait and when it’s something that affects them it’s handled ASAP.

It’s about numbers and you’re not gonna tell me all these threads and people complaining about BG are wrong and it’s not an issue because a smaller percentage of the player base thinks it’s just fine.

It's only affecting you because you lack either roster depth, knowledge of the game or skill. This meta isn't like a exploit or glitch that gets fixed fast.

What I have an issue with is the constant complaining about how hard a piece of content is and the obsessiveness of needing that content nerfed because you suck at it.

BlackOracle

Fully support for either now or next season the pause button is removed altogether for his mode.

Jefechuta

Guys Im going to make a comparison so maybe you understand better the points we trying to make:

The meta of BG is a sandwich okay; first Season had tuna and tomato, second one had ham and some onion, third one had just vegetables and eggs, and this one has an alive chicken inside.

And you guys are like yeah I know maybe isnt that easy to eat the sandwich with the chicken just trying to get out of it you have to use your knife to try to stab him instead of cut the sandwich in half, and maybe try to spit the feathers and the claws, and maybe it doesnt taste well but you have to learn to enjoy it anyways.

I think its easier this way to explain

Manup456

@Demonzfyre Your last post reminds me of that other post you were in saying what someone said was 100% false and you were 110% wrong.

This is part of my roster and skill is not the issue 😆 the meta is bad period.

TheBair123

@Demonzfyre Your last post reminds me of that other post you were in saying what someone said was 100% false and you were 110% wrong.

This is part of my roster and skill is not the issue 😆 the meta is bad period.

congratulations! posting your roster does make you credible and i believe all of your points now that i see that got a lot of 6* champs

Manup456

@TheBair123 He said I lack the roster depth was I talking to you?

Demonzfyre

@Demonzfyre Your last post reminds me of that other post you were in saying what someone said was 100% false and you were 110% wrong.

This is part of my roster and skill is not the issue 😆 the meta is bad period.

Sorry you paid all that money for that roster and not be good at the game.

Manup456

@Demonzfyre So I have been playing since the game came out beat all the content and your assuming I bought where I am 😆 assumptions after assumptions tell me what you actually know.

Demonzfyre

@Demonzfyre So I have been playing since the game came out beat all the content and your assuming I bought where I am 😆 assumptions after assumptions tell me what you actually know.

What I actually know? You don't like challenges. You hide your in-game name for a reason.

Manup456

Because you have shady people who hack accounts and I’m not dealing with that. I love a challenge when it makes sense the meta for VT doesn’t make sense.

You assume a lot of stuff like you know me or something.

Demonzfyre

Because you have shady people who hack accounts and I’m not dealing with that. I love a challenge when it makes sense the meta for VT doesn’t make sense.

You assume a lot of stuff like you know me or something.

Lol. You can't hack an account from a username. I've put mine out there for years. Never been hacked. lol

You should have said "I love a challenge when it fits my small skill set".

Manup456

@Demonzfyre you know what they say about people who assume?

Demonzfyre

@Demonzfyre you know what they say about people who assume?

No, but I can't wait for you to tag me again to let me know.

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Kabam Jax

Alright everyone, we're closing this thread.

A reminder once again to keep your opinions on the game and off of other forums users.

A couple things worth mentioning.

Removing the pause button is something the game team has discussed. However, it comes with its own problems. Notably, navigating how to handle players that would let the game idle in the background instead. Additionally, removing the pause button is a major change to the game infrastructure that could have many knock-on effects. Until that time, as we have said before, using the pause button as a strategy is considered unsportsmanlike and frowned upon.

Onto this season's meta... Yes, we have heard you, some of you really do not like the meta. We have heard from many people that this meta has forced them to use champs in ways they never would have and resulted in them learning a whole new area of the game they otherwise never would have. We've also seen reports from Summoners who were initially outraged, then took the time to learn the meta and found ways to thrive within it.

We take all of these factors into consideration and will use the information in how we build metas for future seasons.