Infamous Ironman - what to do after your sp2 ?

Justin2524

So I build up to my special 2 and power burn the opponent..

But then the opponent will have his sp2 but you have no power left.

What do you do then?

ait out his sp2 ? Or build up to your sp1 and special lock him?

SpideyFunko

in a longer fight i tend to heavy cancel into the special 3 for an energize, then special 1 for the long special lock


are you pushing them to the special 3 and then going for your special 2?

Justin2524

SpideyFunko said:

are you pushing them to the special 3 and then going for your special 2?

Yes but the issue is then you lose all your power and the opponent still has like 2+ bars .. then what do you do?

SpideyFunko

Justin2524 said:

SpideyFunko said:

are you pushing them to the special 3 and then going for your special 2?

Yes but the issue is then you lose all your power and the opponent still has like 2+ bars .. then what do you do?

don’t push all the way to special 3- bait out a special or two before getting to your special 2. I’m assuming this is normal questing?

Pseudo_19

I use the hulk buster relic. My usual rotation is (build up just below sp3) medium, light, light, light, heavy cancel into striker, immediately sp3 then the opponent is still stunned so you can immediately get into a 5 combo and keep the opponent under 3 bars of then use sp1 to power lock the opponent and get off 2 special 2’s if you play aggressive with a cooperative AI.

Justin2524

Pseudo_19 said:

I use the hulk buster relic. My usual rotation is (build up just below sp3) medium, light, light, light, heavy cancel into striker, immediately sp3 then the opponent is still stunned so you can immediately get into a 5 combo and keep the opponent under 3 bars of then use sp1 to power lock the opponent and get off 2 special 2’s if you play aggressive with a cooperative AI.

But how about in BG or questing where you don’t wanna be using your sp3?

Justin2524

SpideyFunko said:

Justin2524 said:

SpideyFunko said:

are you pushing them to the special 3 and then going for your special 2?

Yes but the issue is then you lose all your power and the opponent still has like 2+ bars .. then what do you do?

don’t push all the way to special 3- bait out a special or two before getting to your special 2. I’m assuming this is normal questing?

But I thought this champ was all about pushing him to sp3? What’s the point of pushing him there.. power burn him.. then STILL having to bait out the sp2?

That makes no sense.

CyborgNinja135

Justin2524 said:

SpideyFunko said:

Justin2524 said:

SpideyFunko said:

are you pushing them to the special 3 and then going for your special 2?

Yes but the issue is then you lose all your power and the opponent still has like 2+ bars .. then what do you do?

don’t push all the way to special 3- bait out a special or two before getting to your special 2. I’m assuming this is normal questing?

But I thought this champ was all about pushing him to sp3? What’s the point of pushing him there.. power burn him.. then STILL having to bait out the sp2?

That makes no sense.

You push the opponent to the sp3 because the sp2 gains increased attack rating for each full bar of power the opponent has. 90% of the champions in the game still have to bait specials after their damage loop so I don't see the issue here. If your first sp2 doesn't kill the opponent then bait a special and build to another sp2. Should be more than enough to finish and enemy in BGs.

He shines in longer when fights when you can use the sp3 to get the energize and then special lock the opponent. That way you can cycle 3-4 sp2s while the aura is active and deal a lot of damage. Alternatively, go against any mutant that can quickly gain prowess so that you can convert them into energy vulnerabilities.

Justin2524

CyborgNinja135 said:

Justin2524 said:

SpideyFunko said:

Justin2524 said:

SpideyFunko said:

are you pushing them to the special 3 and then going for your special 2?

Yes but the issue is then you lose all your power and the opponent still has like 2+ bars .. then what do you do?

don’t push all the way to special 3- bait out a special or two before getting to your special 2. I’m assuming this is normal questing?

But I thought this champ was all about pushing him to sp3? What’s the point of pushing him there.. power burn him.. then STILL having to bait out the sp2?

That makes no sense.

You push the opponent to the sp3 because the sp2 gains increased attack rating for each full bar of power the opponent has. 90% of the champions in the game still have to bait specials after their damage loop so I don't see the issue here. If your first sp2 doesn't kill the opponent then bait a special and build to another sp2. Should be more than enough to finish and enemy in BGs.

He shines in longer when fights when you can use the sp3 to get the energize and then special lock the opponent. That way you can cycle 3-4 sp2s while the aura is active and deal a lot of damage. Alternatively, go against any mutant that can quickly gain prowess so that you can convert them into energy vulnerabilities.

I’m not asking about the prowess I know he can do that or long fights. I’m asking about shorter fights.

If you compare to Dr Doom he builds up opponents power then with sp1 or sp3 he can power drain them.

But with iron Doom I thought there would be a similar way to get the power down.. are you telling me there isn’t?

CyborgNinja135

Justin2524 said:

CyborgNinja135 said:

Justin2524 said:

SpideyFunko said:

Justin2524 said:

SpideyFunko said:

are you pushing them to the special 3 and then going for your special 2?

Yes but the issue is then you lose all your power and the opponent still has like 2+ bars .. then what do you do?

don’t push all the way to special 3- bait out a special or two before getting to your special 2. I’m assuming this is normal questing?

But I thought this champ was all about pushing him to sp3? What’s the point of pushing him there.. power burn him.. then STILL having to bait out the sp2?

That makes no sense.

You push the opponent to the sp3 because the sp2 gains increased attack rating for each full bar of power the opponent has. 90% of the champions in the game still have to bait specials after their damage loop so I don't see the issue here. If your first sp2 doesn't kill the opponent then bait a special and build to another sp2. Should be more than enough to finish and enemy in BGs.

He shines in longer when fights when you can use the sp3 to get the energize and then special lock the opponent. That way you can cycle 3-4 sp2s while the aura is active and deal a lot of damage. Alternatively, go against any mutant that can quickly gain prowess so that you can convert them into energy vulnerabilities.

I’m not asking about the prowess I know he can do that or long fights. I’m asking about shorter fights.

If you compare to Dr Doom he builds up opponents power then with sp1 or sp3 he can power drain them.

But with iron Doom I thought there would be a similar way to get the power down.. are you telling me there isn’t?

He's not meant to power control like Doom because, like I said, the sp2 gains increased attack for each full bar of power the opponent has. He's riskier to play in that regard. If you play well you'll always have the enemy under 3 bars of power, but he's not really meant to keep their power low.

Justin2524

SlayinAlive said:

Justin2524 said:

CyborgNinja135 said:

Justin2524 said:

SpideyFunko said:

Justin2524 said:

SpideyFunko said:

are you pushing them to the special 3 and then going for your special 2?

Yes but the issue is then you lose all your power and the opponent still has like 2+ bars .. then what do you do?

don’t push all the way to special 3- bait out a special or two before getting to your special 2. I’m assuming this is normal questing?

But I thought this champ was all about pushing him to sp3? What’s the point of pushing him there.. power burn him.. then STILL having to bait out the sp2?

That makes no sense.

You push the opponent to the sp3 because the sp2 gains increased attack rating for each full bar of power the opponent has. 90% of the champions in the game still have to bait specials after their damage loop so I don't see the issue here. If your first sp2 doesn't kill the opponent then bait a special and build to another sp2. Should be more than enough to finish and enemy in BGs.

He shines in longer when fights when you can use the sp3 to get the energize and then special lock the opponent. That way you can cycle 3-4 sp2s while the aura is active and deal a lot of damage. Alternatively, go against any mutant that can quickly gain prowess so that you can convert them into energy vulnerabilities.

I’m not asking about the prowess I know he can do that or long fights. I’m asking about shorter fights.

If you compare to Dr Doom he builds up opponents power then with sp1 or sp3 he can power drain them.

But with iron Doom I thought there would be a similar way to get the power down.. are you telling me there isn’t?

After doom sp2 opponent is right under 2 bars of power......

Which Doom?

Justin2524

CyborgNinja135 said:

Justin2524 said:

CyborgNinja135 said:

Justin2524 said:

SpideyFunko said:

Justin2524 said:

SpideyFunko said:

are you pushing them to the special 3 and then going for your special 2?

Yes but the issue is then you lose all your power and the opponent still has like 2+ bars .. then what do you do?

don’t push all the way to special 3- bait out a special or two before getting to your special 2. I’m assuming this is normal questing?

But I thought this champ was all about pushing him to sp3? What’s the point of pushing him there.. power burn him.. then STILL having to bait out the sp2?

That makes no sense.

You push the opponent to the sp3 because the sp2 gains increased attack rating for each full bar of power the opponent has. 90% of the champions in the game still have to bait specials after their damage loop so I don't see the issue here. If your first sp2 doesn't kill the opponent then bait a special and build to another sp2. Should be more than enough to finish and enemy in BGs.

He shines in longer when fights when you can use the sp3 to get the energize and then special lock the opponent. That way you can cycle 3-4 sp2s while the aura is active and deal a lot of damage. Alternatively, go against any mutant that can quickly gain prowess so that you can convert them into energy vulnerabilities.

I’m not asking about the prowess I know he can do that or long fights. I’m asking about shorter fights.

If you compare to Dr Doom he builds up opponents power then with sp1 or sp3 he can power drain them.

But with iron Doom I thought there would be a similar way to get the power down.. are you telling me there isn’t?

He's not meant to power control like Doom because, like I said, the sp2 gains increased attack for each full bar of power the opponent has. He's riskier to play in that regard. If you play well you'll always have the enemy under 3 bars of power, but he's not really meant to keep their power low.

Yeah no wonder people still say original Doom is better..

CyborgNinja135

Justin2524 said:

CyborgNinja135 said:

Justin2524 said:

CyborgNinja135 said:

Justin2524 said:

SpideyFunko said:

Justin2524 said:

SpideyFunko said:

are you pushing them to the special 3 and then going for your special 2?

Yes but the issue is then you lose all your power and the opponent still has like 2+ bars .. then what do you do?

don’t push all the way to special 3- bait out a special or two before getting to your special 2. I’m assuming this is normal questing?

But I thought this champ was all about pushing him to sp3? What’s the point of pushing him there.. power burn him.. then STILL having to bait out the sp2?

That makes no sense.

You push the opponent to the sp3 because the sp2 gains increased attack rating for each full bar of power the opponent has. 90% of the champions in the game still have to bait specials after their damage loop so I don't see the issue here. If your first sp2 doesn't kill the opponent then bait a special and build to another sp2. Should be more than enough to finish and enemy in BGs.

He shines in longer when fights when you can use the sp3 to get the energize and then special lock the opponent. That way you can cycle 3-4 sp2s while the aura is active and deal a lot of damage. Alternatively, go against any mutant that can quickly gain prowess so that you can convert them into energy vulnerabilities.

I’m not asking about the prowess I know he can do that or long fights. I’m asking about shorter fights.

If you compare to Dr Doom he builds up opponents power then with sp1 or sp3 he can power drain them.

But with iron Doom I thought there would be a similar way to get the power down.. are you telling me there isn’t?

He's not meant to power control like Doom because, like I said, the sp2 gains increased attack for each full bar of power the opponent has. He's riskier to play in that regard. If you play well you'll always have the enemy under 3 bars of power, but he's not really meant to keep their power low.

Yeah no wonder people still say original Doom is better..

He can keep the enemy special locked for the rest of the fight after 1 sp3 and 1 sp1, and has arguably higher dps. IDoom and original Doom are meant to excel in totally different scenarios

Justin2524

CyborgNinja135 said:

Justin2524 said:

CyborgNinja135 said:

Justin2524 said:

CyborgNinja135 said:

Justin2524 said:

SpideyFunko said:

Justin2524 said:

SpideyFunko said:

are you pushing them to the special 3 and then going for your special 2?

Yes but the issue is then you lose all your power and the opponent still has like 2+ bars .. then what do you do?

don’t push all the way to special 3- bait out a special or two before getting to your special 2. I’m assuming this is normal questing?

But I thought this champ was all about pushing him to sp3? What’s the point of pushing him there.. power burn him.. then STILL having to bait out the sp2?

That makes no sense.

You push the opponent to the sp3 because the sp2 gains increased attack rating for each full bar of power the opponent has. 90% of the champions in the game still have to bait specials after their damage loop so I don't see the issue here. If your first sp2 doesn't kill the opponent then bait a special and build to another sp2. Should be more than enough to finish and enemy in BGs.

He shines in longer when fights when you can use the sp3 to get the energize and then special lock the opponent. That way you can cycle 3-4 sp2s while the aura is active and deal a lot of damage. Alternatively, go against any mutant that can quickly gain prowess so that you can convert them into energy vulnerabilities.

I’m not asking about the prowess I know he can do that or long fights. I’m asking about shorter fights.

If you compare to Dr Doom he builds up opponents power then with sp1 or sp3 he can power drain them.

But with iron Doom I thought there would be a similar way to get the power down.. are you telling me there isn’t?

He's not meant to power control like Doom because, like I said, the sp2 gains increased attack for each full bar of power the opponent has. He's riskier to play in that regard. If you play well you'll always have the enemy under 3 bars of power, but he's not really meant to keep their power low.

Yeah no wonder people still say original Doom is better..

He can keep the enemy special locked for the rest of the fight after 1 sp3 and 1 sp1, and has arguably higher dps. IDoom and original Doom are meant to excel in totally different scenarios

How do you do that?

CyborgNinja135

Justin2524 said:

CyborgNinja135 said:

Justin2524 said:

CyborgNinja135 said:

Justin2524 said:

CyborgNinja135 said:

Justin2524 said:

SpideyFunko said:

Justin2524 said:

SpideyFunko said:

are you pushing them to the special 3 and then going for your special 2?

Yes but the issue is then you lose all your power and the opponent still has like 2+ bars .. then what do you do?

don’t push all the way to special 3- bait out a special or two before getting to your special 2. I’m assuming this is normal questing?

But I thought this champ was all about pushing him to sp3? What’s the point of pushing him there.. power burn him.. then STILL having to bait out the sp2?

That makes no sense.

You push the opponent to the sp3 because the sp2 gains increased attack rating for each full bar of power the opponent has. 90% of the champions in the game still have to bait specials after their damage loop so I don't see the issue here. If your first sp2 doesn't kill the opponent then bait a special and build to another sp2. Should be more than enough to finish and enemy in BGs.

He shines in longer when fights when you can use the sp3 to get the energize and then special lock the opponent. That way you can cycle 3-4 sp2s while the aura is active and deal a lot of damage. Alternatively, go against any mutant that can quickly gain prowess so that you can convert them into energy vulnerabilities.

I’m not asking about the prowess I know he can do that or long fights. I’m asking about shorter fights.

If you compare to Dr Doom he builds up opponents power then with sp1 or sp3 he can power drain them.

But with iron Doom I thought there would be a similar way to get the power down.. are you telling me there isn’t?

He's not meant to power control like Doom because, like I said, the sp2 gains increased attack for each full bar of power the opponent has. He's riskier to play in that regard. If you play well you'll always have the enemy under 3 bars of power, but he's not really meant to keep their power low.

Yeah no wonder people still say original Doom is better..

He can keep the enemy special locked for the rest of the fight after 1 sp3 and 1 sp1, and has arguably higher dps. IDoom and original Doom are meant to excel in totally different scenarios

How do you do that?

Throw sp3 while the aura is active to gain the energize, the build to sp1 and throw it to special lock the opponent. With an AI aggressive enough you can cycle 2 sp2's, then build back to sp3 (with aura), sp1 and cycle 2 more sp2's. You can do this continuously if you pay attention to the aura's timer.

Justin2524

CyborgNinja135 said:

Justin2524 said:

CyborgNinja135 said:

Justin2524 said:

CyborgNinja135 said:

Justin2524 said:

CyborgNinja135 said:

Justin2524 said:

SpideyFunko said:

Justin2524 said:

SpideyFunko said:

are you pushing them to the special 3 and then going for your special 2?

Yes but the issue is then you lose all your power and the opponent still has like 2+ bars .. then what do you do?

don’t push all the way to special 3- bait out a special or two before getting to your special 2. I’m assuming this is normal questing?

But I thought this champ was all about pushing him to sp3? What’s the point of pushing him there.. power burn him.. then STILL having to bait out the sp2?

That makes no sense.

You push the opponent to the sp3 because the sp2 gains increased attack rating for each full bar of power the opponent has. 90% of the champions in the game still have to bait specials after their damage loop so I don't see the issue here. If your first sp2 doesn't kill the opponent then bait a special and build to another sp2. Should be more than enough to finish and enemy in BGs.

He shines in longer when fights when you can use the sp3 to get the energize and then special lock the opponent. That way you can cycle 3-4 sp2s while the aura is active and deal a lot of damage. Alternatively, go against any mutant that can quickly gain prowess so that you can convert them into energy vulnerabilities.

I’m not asking about the prowess I know he can do that or long fights. I’m asking about shorter fights.

If you compare to Dr Doom he builds up opponents power then with sp1 or sp3 he can power drain them.

But with iron Doom I thought there would be a similar way to get the power down.. are you telling me there isn’t?

He's not meant to power control like Doom because, like I said, the sp2 gains increased attack for each full bar of power the opponent has. He's riskier to play in that regard. If you play well you'll always have the enemy under 3 bars of power, but he's not really meant to keep their power low.

Yeah no wonder people still say original Doom is better..

He can keep the enemy special locked for the rest of the fight after 1 sp3 and 1 sp1, and has arguably higher dps. IDoom and original Doom are meant to excel in totally different scenarios

How do you do that?

Throw sp3 while the aura is active to gain the energize, the build to sp1 and throw it to special lock the opponent. With an AI aggressive enough you can cycle 2 sp2's, then build back to sp3 (with aura), sp1 and cycle 2 more sp2's. You can do this continuously if you pay attention to the aura's timer.

That’s a lot to do for the fraction of damage you get from the likes of Hercules, cgr, Galan.. and if he’s not gonna be power controlling (as you said he needs opponents to cooperate unlike Doom) .. then why the hassle?

CyborgNinja135

Justin2524 said:

CyborgNinja135 said:

Justin2524 said:

CyborgNinja135 said:

Justin2524 said:

CyborgNinja135 said:

Justin2524 said:

CyborgNinja135 said:

Justin2524 said:

SpideyFunko said:

Justin2524 said:

SpideyFunko said:

are you pushing them to the special 3 and then going for your special 2?

Yes but the issue is then you lose all your power and the opponent still has like 2+ bars .. then what do you do?

don’t push all the way to special 3- bait out a special or two before getting to your special 2. I’m assuming this is normal questing?

But I thought this champ was all about pushing him to sp3? What’s the point of pushing him there.. power burn him.. then STILL having to bait out the sp2?

That makes no sense.

You push the opponent to the sp3 because the sp2 gains increased attack rating for each full bar of power the opponent has. 90% of the champions in the game still have to bait specials after their damage loop so I don't see the issue here. If your first sp2 doesn't kill the opponent then bait a special and build to another sp2. Should be more than enough to finish and enemy in BGs.

He shines in longer when fights when you can use the sp3 to get the energize and then special lock the opponent. That way you can cycle 3-4 sp2s while the aura is active and deal a lot of damage. Alternatively, go against any mutant that can quickly gain prowess so that you can convert them into energy vulnerabilities.

I’m not asking about the prowess I know he can do that or long fights. I’m asking about shorter fights.

If you compare to Dr Doom he builds up opponents power then with sp1 or sp3 he can power drain them.

But with iron Doom I thought there would be a similar way to get the power down.. are you telling me there isn’t?

He's not meant to power control like Doom because, like I said, the sp2 gains increased attack for each full bar of power the opponent has. He's riskier to play in that regard. If you play well you'll always have the enemy under 3 bars of power, but he's not really meant to keep their power low.

Yeah no wonder people still say original Doom is better..

He can keep the enemy special locked for the rest of the fight after 1 sp3 and 1 sp1, and has arguably higher dps. IDoom and original Doom are meant to excel in totally different scenarios

How do you do that?

Throw sp3 while the aura is active to gain the energize, the build to sp1 and throw it to special lock the opponent. With an AI aggressive enough you can cycle 2 sp2's, then build back to sp3 (with aura), sp1 and cycle 2 more sp2's. You can do this continuously if you pay attention to the aura's timer.

That’s a lot to do for the fraction of damage you get from the likes of Hercules, cgr, Galan.. and if he’s not gonna be power controlling (as you said he needs opponents to cooperate unlike Doom) .. then why the hassle?

The rotation just sounds a lot more complicated than it is, just like the Doom cycle (that also requires the opponent to cooperate and not be trigger happy with their specials btw). If you want, you can go and try it out and you'll see for yourself. That said, he's more of a specialized champion so comparing him to 3 champions that can bulldoze through content is unfair. Up to you if you wanna use him/rank him up or not.

Wu_Bangerz23

He's def super overhyped in the public eye because the people that show him off are YouTubers and he has great prestige (I'm sure that's half the reason for all the Love). So the general public sees all this hype and people chasing him but they aren't chasing him because he's better than herc or cgr.....he's about my 5th favorite tech. He does have his uses though....def my favorite bishop counter in the game.