Quantumania (Spoilers)

Didn't notice a thread yet for talking about the newest movie, so thought I'd make one for everyone so they can talk about what they liked or disliked and if anything they'd like to see added in game besides Cassie. Feel free to discuss.
Me personally, thought the movie was overall great. However, one thing I would change, is anything that had to do with modok. Just felt like it was a waste in both origin and design overall. Though perhaps I wouldn't be mad if we got a champ based on his battle mode look. I also would love to see a champ based on the character with the yellow energy head that blasts rays. Can't think of his name but there's the potential for nice special animations oh and one last thing, kang has arrived. I loved the portrayal and I can't wait to see more of him. That mid credits scene made me giddy with glee.

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The_Blue_Jaguar

I loved George Lopez’s character!

DrZola

Honestly I was glad I caught a whiff of the bad reviews beforehand. My expectations were managed, and I enjoyed the movie.

Not a big Cassie fan (found her annoying and shallow, but I don’t think Marvel does a great job of writing young characters onscreen like her or America). I am a big fan of Douglas and Pfeiffer, both of whom made banal dialogue sound important.

Bill Murray was fine but sort of wasted. And Kang was great except for the first after credits scene—not sure why every Kang decided to act like a bunch of idiots in the Council of Kangs arena.

Dr. Zola

Buttehrs

Honestly I was glad I caught a whiff of the bad reviews beforehand. My expectations were managed, and I enjoyed the movie.

Not a big Cassie fan (found her annoying and shallow, but I don’t think Marvel does a great job of writing young characters onscreen like her or America). I am a big fan of Douglas and Pfeiffer, both of whom made banal dialogue sound important.

Bill Murray was fine but sort of wasted. And Kang was great except for the first after credits scene—not sure why every Kang decided to act like a bunch of idiots in the Council of Kangs arena.

Dr. Zola

I think the random kangs acting a fool was to show how some are very different from the well known variants and they will be a massive problem collectivley.

Darkraw346

Didn't notice a thread yet for talking about the newest movie, so thought I'd make one for everyone so they can talk about what they liked or disliked and if anything they'd like to see added in game besides Cassie. Feel free to discuss.
Me personally, thought the movie was overall great. However, one thing I would change, is anything that had to do with modok. Just felt like it was a waste in both origin and design overall. Though perhaps I wouldn't be mad if we got a champ based on his battle mode look. I also would love to see a champ based on the character with the yellow energy head that blasts rays. Can't think of his name but there's the potential for nice special animations oh and one last thing, kang has arrived. I loved the portrayal and I can't wait to see more of him. That mid credits scene made me giddy with glee.

It could REALLY be cool to have that champ with the yellow head

SpideyFunko

i want the pixar lamp guy in game

hated modok, didn’t like that wasp was sidelined for a pretty shallow interpretation of cassie, and i disliked how no one had any real character development

DrZola

Honestly I was glad I caught a whiff of the bad reviews beforehand. My expectations were managed, and I enjoyed the movie.

Not a big Cassie fan (found her annoying and shallow, but I don’t think Marvel does a great job of writing young characters onscreen like her or America). I am a big fan of Douglas and Pfeiffer, both of whom made banal dialogue sound important.

Bill Murray was fine but sort of wasted. And Kang was great except for the first after credits scene—not sure why every Kang decided to act like a bunch of idiots in the Council of Kangs arena.

Dr. Zola
I think the random kangs acting a fool was to show how some are very different from the well known variants and they will be a massive problem collectivley.

I hope so. A villain who is able to exist in multiple timelines and travel back and forth to change events is a menacing and formidable force.

I was always hoping we would have an Ultron like the comics—one who always preserved a bit of his code here and there so he could come back again and again, each time with more knowledge and capabilities than the last. I’d kind of like to see Kang in a similar vein.

Dr. Zola

shut_up_heather

TL;DR Didn't love it, stagnant storyline, no character growth, too much bad humor

I did not love the movie, and it was about everything I expected it to be.
It wasn't terrible, just that it didn't measure up to the first 2 Ant-Man movies in terms of storyline, character development, and humor.
If we look at the characters, we see there wasn't really any growth in any of the major characters. Scott is a book writer and doesn't care about being a hero, meh. Cassie runs around trying to hug her father, meh. And the writers CLEARLY didn't bring a real teenage girl to check, because her dialogue seems forced and leans too much into the "sassy teen" template (A better setup between the two could've been if Scott didn't care about his daughter and learned to appreciate/love her over the course of the movie, but that wouldn't have matched up with the other two movies so I'll forgive it.) MODOK was clearly only here...........to introduce MODOK, and have something funny.
Jonathan Majors (Kang) and Michelle Pfeiffer (Janet) were the highlights of the movie, but the story felt like it was going nowhere.The whole reason for the main conflict was because Cassie built something she wasn't supposed to and the rest of the movie is "let's find each other and go home". In other words, there is no underlying motivation and the writers focused on making jokes waaaay too much while neglecting the actual plot. This makes the whole movie feel shallow. I know it is, at heart, a superhero movie, but still. You could've tried to work character growth into it.
Personally, the moment I felt like the movie was ruined for me was when Cassie convinces MODOK/Darren to stop being a d**k. It wasn't funny (at least not to me) and just obliterated any interest I might have had in the final conflict.
If you are reading this thank you for putting up with my rants

Deacon

I had a good time watching it BUT ... i think they seriously missed the mark on Cassie. i get the whole "teenage struggle is real" so I guess they had to present typical daughter vs father tension but that's not at ALL who Cassie has been in the MCU when it comes to her father. she absolutely ADORES her father and even considering she's a teenager, i don't see how she would ever have a "tested" relationship with Scott.

but whatever .. i just think it would have served the movie better to continue on their relationship and just have them be in a great relationship without the teenage drama they forced into it.

she could have been his prodigy which they were building towards in all the movies prior. but they turned her into some rebellious teen which I didn't care for.

good movie though. i'm not into Kang as the new bad guy but it is what it is. i don't see any threat at all on the level of what a Thanos was.

Wicket329

I thought they did a really good job building up the threat and intimidation factor for Kang… until he got bodied by a bunch of ants. Like, if they had made it so rather than the ants breaking his barrier and wrecking him, it was just an overwhelming force that had him temporarily pinned and he had to come up with a plan to escape that required him to leave his suit behind (thus giving us the same setup for the final punch-fest), I think it would’ve worked better.

On the note of that final fight, I did genuinely enjoy getting to see Jonathan Majors show off that Creed III training. Him absolutely working Antman in a fist fight was great.

Buttehrs

I think some of yall are missing the point on Kang being a big threat. Solo one on one, Kang is beatable, as has been shown in comics dozens of times. But when his council gets together and he is able to control more Kang than you can count, some smarter some more vicious, that's when he shines.

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Bendy

I actually really enjoyed it and the post credit scene and mid im ready for the future projects cant wait to see more of majors where ever he is next

Wicket329

Marvel needs to dial it back and step away from politics and get back to focusing on telling a good story.
I loved Stan Lee’s Marvel, I find Disney a source of cringe. I hope they get it together because shows like Echo, Agatha and Ironheart have fail written all over them. I’d rather see a great story about Loki without his superior female doppelgänger and another season of What-if.

If you think Marvel wasn’t *explicitly* political under Stan Lee, you weren’t paying attention. I can agree that the writing of some their political points could use some work, but to tell comics and their related media not to engage in political speech is like yelling water not to be wet.

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Buttehrs

Trust me I saw the correlation, but emasculating the heroes I grew up with like Hulk, Thor, Antman etc is distasteful. I don’t think that was Stan’s vision.
Im looking forward to Guardians and Deadpool 3, after that I’m left thirsty for good content…

Meanwhile, there are TONS of female characters that would put most male characters to shame. Just look at scarlet witch. They're called variants for a reason. They are also characters carrying on a legacy, adding to it.

Doctorwho13

Honestly I was glad I caught a whiff of the bad reviews beforehand. My expectations were managed, and I enjoyed the movie.

Not a big Cassie fan (found her annoying and shallow, but I don’t think Marvel does a great job of writing young characters onscreen like her or America). I am a big fan of Douglas and Pfeiffer, both of whom made banal dialogue sound important.

Bill Murray was fine but sort of wasted. And Kang was great except for the first after credits scene—not sure why every Kang decided to act like a bunch of idiots in the Council of Kangs arena.

Dr. Zola
I think the random kangs acting a fool was to show how some are very different from the well known variants and they will be a massive problem collectivley.
I hope so. A villain who is able to exist in multiple timelines and travel back and forth to change events is a menacing and formidable force.

I was always hoping we would have an Ultron like the comics—one who always preserved a bit of his code here and there so he could come back again and again, each time with more knowledge and capabilities than the last. I’d kind of like to see Kang in a similar vein.

Dr. Zola

TBH whenever I read a council of kangs story in the books they’re always bickering and there’s a grand showing of one upmanship bordering on the sublime. I haven’t seen the movie yet, but if that’s the same it would appear par for the course.

shut_up_heather

This #savage comment sums it up so well.

Fitnesscw

So is kang in antman the main villain in the avengers movie or is someone else gonna be? They feared his powers and abilities but he got beat by ants. Also said how he killed all the avengers and thor but ants weakened him severely hmmm

BigBuster

pretty bad honestly:
bad writing, bad character progression, extremely cringe jokes, etc.

so... it's like most recent MCU content

SandPounder

Is it just me or should we have like a kang boss rush soon? Like multiple kang variants each with their own abilities like 7.3 and 7.4 back to back in a quest for crazy rewards?

Also I loved the movie, just wish ghost was mentioned in it, she's kind of a nobody now in the MCU.

I wouldn’t Kabam releasing a couple of Kang variants as playable characters next year in the lead up to the next Avengers movie.

As for Ghost…. Thunderbolts is coming next year… you should see her there.

Savage123456789

The kang variants at the end just took all the excitement from me. I think and sincerely hope that the main movie kang is still alive and comes back. The other variants don’t make me feel like “Thanos is coming”. Heck, even ultron was more intimidating with his jokes than those Kangs. I would take Avengers 1 Loki over those Kangs.

SuelGames

It was a better Star Wars movie than episodes 7-9 .. Maybe Quantum Wars?

Jokes aside, i think it was a solid movie, slight better than the first, prob thanks to Kang, and way better than the second.. i did miss Luis tough

I didnt like the new Cassie actress tough, she felt forced, bad acting and awful lines, like the ones to Modok, "dont be a ****", like serioussly? -__- I feel for the Endgame actress

7/10 perhaps

SkyLord7000

Kind of annoyed by the inconsistencies throughout the film.

Why is Kang so Strong and yet so weak
Why do ants literally beat future time god
Why don’t Kangs and MODOK kill or even hurt anything with plot armor
Why does the wife/mom/grandmother have those grow rings in the flashback
Why are the ant 20x larger when everything else scaled the same
Why do the turrets literally have 0 impact
And finally…

Why is MODOK

(About as good as sharknado)
3/10

SkyLord7000

^^This list can go on btw.

Hulverine_1

Honestly I was glad I caught a whiff of the bad reviews beforehand. My expectations were managed, and I enjoyed the movie.

Not a big Cassie fan (found her annoying and shallow, but I don’t think Marvel does a great job of writing young characters onscreen like her or America). I am a big fan of Douglas and Pfeiffer, both of whom made banal dialogue sound important.

Bill Murray was fine but sort of wasted. And Kang was great except for the first after credits scene—not sure why every Kang decided to act like a bunch of idiots in the Council of Kangs arena.

Dr. Zola

I also felt like Cassie was annoying

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Maxwell2454

Modok best Avenger fr

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Usagicassidy

God it was so awful. I was so disappointed.

Mutilverse of Madness and Love and Thunder were not good movies. But they had set pieces, stakes, and some good action. I honestly couldn't imagine Quantimaniua being worse then either of those, but it was by a mile. There was so much "story" - but none of it was good. There was no hero journey - Scott didn't do much and Hope did essentially nothing to the point where the actress said as much in interviews.

I could forgive some of that if the action was at least...good? But it wasn't. It was so much "running against green screen" that it looked so terrible and there was nothing memorable about it. Half the fun of Ant-Man is seeing action scenes from a different perspective - being super small, or using Pym discs to blow something up - this movie had none of it.

By the end of the film when Cassie became Statue and got "big" - it didn't even matter - it wasn't impactful. Because there was no scale. You're in the Quantum realm, everything is bad CGI, there's no perspective. So when she got "big" it had zero implications or impact. When they hugged it was supposed to be this big moment but it was just void of all of it.

I'm devastated Marvels got pushed back to November but if it even means the tiniest chance of a better movie, I'll take it. Clearly MCU cared about Wakanda Forever and has also put the same amount of effort into Guardians vol 3, but the same cannot be said about Ant-Man. Hoping Marvels at least gets better VFX with all the extra time.

DemonicStalker

Should have left scott, janet and cross in the quantum realm with kang...then opening of avengers 5.. let wasp and cassie find help from other avengers via hank pym of course... then end of avengers 5 wud have 2 battles with kang...1 in the quantum realm (most powerful kang) and 1 where the kangs in space (post-credit scene) invade earth...

Imagine...wasp, cassie, hawkeye, kate bishop, falcon, bucky, war machine heading down to quantum realm
dr strange, wong + monastery, shuri + wakanda, shang-chi, iron heart, hulk, she hulk, kamala khan fighting other kangs on earth..

then this should open up side stories for ... loki, wanda and spiderman...