Fury, and it's not even a contest. Second life makes him a BG god, and he basically cannot be defeated in arena. He excels even in defense, and barely needs any sig stones at all. Overall great all-rounder champ, and is definitely worthy of a generic gem, much less a skill gem.
Gave generic to fury almost 2 years ago, he is r3.will probably stay at r3. Im not on the fury hype train. He is not a part of my BG deck.
Gave generic to KP. And the BG deck feels incomplete without a duped Kp. gave him 65 sigs. The amount of fights he can tackle are uncountable. KP is blacklisted in war. Guess why?
Gave generic to fury almost 2 years ago, he is r3.will probably stay at r3. Im not on the fury hype train. He is not a part of my BG deck.
Gave generic to KP. And the BG deck feels incomplete without a duped Kp. gave him 65 sigs. The amount of fights he can tackle are uncountable. KP is blacklisted in war. Guess why?
Got to agree. I've awakened nick at R3 and had him there for ages.
My 13th (and finally first skill) R4 was kingpin for good reason.
And I've every 6* skill who's good, bar zemo, valk, misty and Kate.
Next skill R4 still likely to be someone else over nick. He's brilliant. He really is. But I'm more likely to take up Shang chi or hit monkey before him. Actually, I'm likely to take up og black panther, attuma, xbones, black cat, moleman, Aegon, bwdo, jabari, mantis, blade... Over nick.
Unless something really changes in BG nodes, aw nodes or story/MEQ nodes.
But if you've got full deep wounds, never run suicides and are really happy playing either at 30% health, or never unlocking his really nick (unless carrying an extensive synergy team), then go with nick. His synergies are still amazing. But most of us use his second Life as a safety net. For damage out of the box without that.. kingpin at sig 69 ish, is the boss...
Gave generic to fury almost 2 years ago, he is r3.will probably stay at r3. Im not on the fury hype train. He is not a part of my BG deck.
Gave generic to KP. And the BG deck feels incomplete without a duped Kp. gave him 65 sigs. The amount of fights he can tackle are uncountable. KP is blacklisted in war. Guess why?
Got to agree. I've awakened nick at R3 and had him there for ages.
My 13th (and finally first skill) R4 was kingpin for good reason.
And I've every 6* skill who's good, bar zemo, valk, misty and Kate.
Next skill R4 still likely to be someone else over nick. He's brilliant. He really is. But I'm more likely to take up Shang chi or hit monkey before him. Actually, I'm likely to take up og black panther, attuma, xbones, black cat, moleman, Aegon, bwdo, jabari, mantis, blade... Over nick.
Unless something really changes in BG nodes, aw nodes or story/MEQ nodes.
But if you've got full deep wounds, never run suicides and are really happy playing either at 30% health, or never unlocking his really nick (unless carrying an extensive synergy team), then go with nick. His synergies are still amazing. But most of us use his second Life as a safety net. For damage out of the box without that.. kingpin at sig 69 ish, is the boss...
wait wait man. the guy isn't asking who to rank up. that is totally different from which champ to awaken. sure my first rank 5 6* was shang chi over nick, king pin, valk and the likes. but which skill champ to use an awakening gem on at this point is Nick without a doubt. out of the selected champs to awaken, if it is any other than nick at this point then sorry but...
really? you need advice on this or you just wanna flex? sorry I am confused.
Really is for advice. I know nick fury is great awakened but I’m wondering if with the whole swarm of unique skill champs entering the game if he hasn’t fallen off a bit. After playing with him at r3 I see I was wrong
really? you need advice on this or you just wanna flex? sorry I am confused.
Really is for advice. I know nick fury is great awakened but I’m wondering if with the whole swarm of unique skill champs entering the game if he hasn’t fallen off a bit. After playing with him at r3 I see I was wrong
There you have it. I wouldn't advise taking him above rank 3, comparing him to the likes of kingpin, valk and possibly shang chi. but if it is for awakening. my bet is on nick to do the job. I wouldn't take him above rank 3 though because I hate playing a character with such potential but low health. quite risky especially if that is when his potential actually shines. but if you can hold your own, that 30% health in his second life is more than enough to do wonders.
Kingpin. I've got every champ in your screenshot (except Mantis, don't have her at all) at 6r3 and the only Skill 6r3 I consistently use in various game modes is Kingpin.
I too used a generic AG on Nick Fury and regret it. Perhaps because I run max suicides and he's not very suicide-friendly. But I tried him on a non-suicide build w/ max Deep Wounds, and yeah, while the extra bleed was nice, not all defenders can bleed.
My order of usage, most-to-least (including ones not on your list): Shang Chi (my only Skill R4) Kingpin OG Black Panther (synergy w/ Herc) Mole Man Hit Monkey BWDO Valkyrie Attuma Falcon Nick Fury
Gave generic to fury almost 2 years ago, he is r3.will probably stay at r3. Im not on the fury hype train. He is not a part of my BG deck.
Gave generic to KP. And the BG deck feels incomplete without a duped Kp. gave him 65 sigs. The amount of fights he can tackle are uncountable. KP is blacklisted in war. Guess why?
Got to agree. I've awakened nick at R3 and had him there for ages.
My 13th (and finally first skill) R4 was kingpin for good reason.
And I've every 6* skill who's good, bar zemo, valk, misty and Kate.
Next skill R4 still likely to be someone else over nick. He's brilliant. He really is. But I'm more likely to take up Shang chi or hit monkey before him. Actually, I'm likely to take up og black panther, attuma, xbones, black cat, moleman, Aegon, bwdo, jabari, mantis, blade... Over nick.
Unless something really changes in BG nodes, aw nodes or story/MEQ nodes.
But if you've got full deep wounds, never run suicides and are really happy playing either at 30% health, or never unlocking his really nick (unless carrying an extensive synergy team), then go with nick. His synergies are still amazing. But most of us use his second Life as a safety net. For damage out of the box without that.. kingpin at sig 69 ish, is the boss...
wait wait man. the guy isn't asking who to rank up. that is totally different from which champ to awaken. sure my first rank 5 6* was shang chi over nick, king pin, valk and the likes. but which skill champ to use an awakening gem on at this point is Nick without a doubt. out of the selected champs to awaken, if it is any other than nick at this point then sorry but...
Genuinely, why nick over kingpin? Kp at sig 69 gets a huge attack boost, from the start of the fight *at full health*. He also shrugs out of the box, has great synergies, decent AR from sp1 and damage reduction from it too, immense sustainability if you run will power.
He's a monster in attack and defence in BGs too.
Nick is situationally better at evade, but you wouldn't use nick as the main evade counter anyway.
Nick's advantage, is the second Life. Most people aren't comfortable fighting at 25% ish health (assuming some block damage), so you don't go into the second Life on purpose.
You save it for that one fight that you know may go south. The whole thing with Fury's second Life, is you don't want to use it on attack, except for one fight.
And if you're going to nuke down a final fight; there are so many choices, that are better for the lane, or don't need to die first to get there...galan, CGR, herc, Shang chi, kingpin, bwdo, collosus, hit monkey, domino, Nimrod, hulk buster, hulk, kitty, apoc/cable, bishop, valk and no doubt a ton I'm missing, especially if you take Heimdall.
If you're only awakening nick, for the second Life and you don't intend to use the second Life (except on BG defence) and if nick is not the cornerstone of your roster and mastery build, then I'd not use it on him if you also have kingpin as an option (or even valk or arguably falcon).
Gave generic to fury almost 2 years ago, he is r3.will probably stay at r3. Im not on the fury hype train. He is not a part of my BG deck.
Gave generic to KP. And the BG deck feels incomplete without a duped Kp. gave him 65 sigs. The amount of fights he can tackle are uncountable. KP is blacklisted in war. Guess why?
Got to agree. I've awakened nick at R3 and had him there for ages.
My 13th (and finally first skill) R4 was kingpin for good reason.
And I've every 6* skill who's good, bar zemo, valk, misty and Kate.
Next skill R4 still likely to be someone else over nick. He's brilliant. He really is. But I'm more likely to take up Shang chi or hit monkey before him. Actually, I'm likely to take up og black panther, attuma, xbones, black cat, moleman, Aegon, bwdo, jabari, mantis, blade... Over nick.
Unless something really changes in BG nodes, aw nodes or story/MEQ nodes.
But if you've got full deep wounds, never run suicides and are really happy playing either at 30% health, or never unlocking his really nick (unless carrying an extensive synergy team), then go with nick. His synergies are still amazing. But most of us use his second Life as a safety net. For damage out of the box without that.. kingpin at sig 69 ish, is the boss...
wait wait man. the guy isn't asking who to rank up. that is totally different from which champ to awaken. sure my first rank 5 6* was shang chi over nick, king pin, valk and the likes. but which skill champ to use an awakening gem on at this point is Nick without a doubt. out of the selected champs to awaken, if it is any other than nick at this point then sorry but...
Genuinely, why nick over kingpin? Kp at sig 69 gets a huge attack boost, from the start of the fight *at full health*. He also shrugs out of the box, has great synergies, decent AR from sp1 and damage reduction from it too, immense sustainability if you run will power.
He's a monster in attack and defence in BGs too.
Nick is situationally better at evade, but you wouldn't use nick as the main evade counter anyway.
Nick's advantage, is the second Life. Most people aren't comfortable fighting at 25% ish health (assuming some block damage), so you don't go into the second Life on purpose.
You save it for that one fight that you know may go south. The whole thing with Fury's second Life, is you don't want to use it on attack, except for one fight.
And if you're going to nuke down a final fight; there are so many choices, that are better for the lane, or don't need to die first to get there...galan, CGR, herc, Shang chi, kingpin, bwdo, collosus, hit monkey, domino, Nimrod, hulk buster, hulk, kitty, apoc/cable, bishop, valk and no doubt a ton I'm missing, especially if you take Heimdall.
If you're only awakening nick, for the second Life and you don't intend to use the second Life (except on BG defence) and if nick is not the cornerstone of your roster and mastery build, then I'd not use it on him if you also have kingpin as an option (or even valk or arguably falcon).
chill. the reason is simple. king pin without Awakening is still a very solid champ. I have a rank 4 6* awakened. I know. Nick without it is ermm ...choosing my words carefully but kinda waste. However, awakening makes him a beast. why would you deny him of such potential? Again, you said kingpin at sig 69 is crazy didn't ya? Guess what, you only need nick at sig 1. give the remaining stones to someone else.
Also, in case you happen to want a champ to use maybe a 20% revive on to finish a fight. assuming all you have is 1 or 2 level 1 revives, I recommend nick over kingpin on that. One thing I can agree with you on is, if you run suicides, I don't run suicides then maybe kingpin can benefit from the healing but hey man, nick isn't just used for one fight or finally bosses as you claim. Depends on who is playing.
Kingpin. I've got every champ in your screenshot (except Mantis, don't have her at all) at 6r3 and the only Skill 6r3 I consistently use in various game modes is Kingpin.
I too used a generic AG on Nick Fury and regret it. Perhaps because I run max suicides and he's not very suicide-friendly. But I tried him on a non-suicide build w/ max Deep Wounds, and yeah, while the extra bleed was nice, not all defenders can bleed.
My order of usage, most-to-least (including ones not on your list): Shang Chi (my only Skill R4) Kingpin OG Black Panther (synergy w/ Herc) Mole Man Hit Monkey BWDO Valkyrie Attuma Falcon Nick Fury
Did you say he is only good against defenders that bleed?
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He benefits hugely from the awakening with the LMD giving him that critical second life, and he doesn't need any sig levels to really get it going.
Gave generic to KP.
And the BG deck feels incomplete without a duped Kp. gave him 65 sigs.
The amount of fights he can tackle are uncountable.
KP is blacklisted in war. Guess why?
The difference in power is significant
My 13th (and finally first skill) R4 was kingpin for good reason.
And I've every 6* skill who's good, bar zemo, valk, misty and Kate.
Next skill R4 still likely to be someone else over nick. He's brilliant. He really is. But I'm more likely to take up Shang chi or hit monkey before him. Actually, I'm likely to take up og black panther, attuma, xbones, black cat, moleman, Aegon, bwdo, jabari, mantis, blade... Over nick.
Unless something really changes in BG nodes, aw nodes or story/MEQ nodes.
But if you've got full deep wounds, never run suicides and are really happy playing either at 30% health, or never unlocking his really nick (unless carrying an extensive synergy team), then go with nick. His synergies are still amazing. But most of us use his second Life as a safety net. For damage out of the box without that.. kingpin at sig 69 ish, is the boss...
I too used a generic AG on Nick Fury and regret it. Perhaps because I run max suicides and he's not very suicide-friendly. But I tried him on a non-suicide build w/ max Deep Wounds, and yeah, while the extra bleed was nice, not all defenders can bleed.
My order of usage, most-to-least (including ones not on your list):
Shang Chi (my only Skill R4)
Kingpin
OG Black Panther (synergy w/ Herc)
Mole Man
Hit Monkey
BWDO
Valkyrie
Attuma
Falcon
Nick Fury
He's a monster in attack and defence in BGs too.
Nick is situationally better at evade, but you wouldn't use nick as the main evade counter anyway.
Nick's advantage, is the second Life. Most people aren't comfortable fighting at 25% ish health (assuming some block damage), so you don't go into the second Life on purpose.
You save it for that one fight that you know may go south. The whole thing with Fury's second Life, is you don't want to use it on attack, except for one fight.
And if you're going to nuke down a final fight; there are so many choices, that are better for the lane, or don't need to die first to get there...galan, CGR, herc, Shang chi, kingpin, bwdo, collosus, hit monkey, domino, Nimrod, hulk buster, hulk, kitty, apoc/cable, bishop, valk and no doubt a ton I'm missing, especially if you take Heimdall.
If you're only awakening nick, for the second Life and you don't intend to use the second Life (except on BG defence) and if nick is not the cornerstone of your roster and mastery build, then I'd not use it on him if you also have kingpin as an option (or even valk or arguably falcon).
His synergies are very nice, but you don't need his awakened ability for them.
Kingpin
Valkyrie
In that order.