Who are some mid level champions in need of a buff?

EdisonLaw

Examples:
1. Loki:
2. Darkhawk
3. Mephisto
4. Dormammu
5. Korg
6. Sauron
7. Phoenix
8. Purgatory

What are some others?

WingsOfChaos_1

Rhino actually he is just terrible Please KABAM fix this he needs rework his mechanism gives him nothing

5th

Loki deserve some rework or buff.
Kabam was busy with iron man, superior iron man, iron man iw, infamous Iron man
And many other same heroes.

EdisonLaw

WingsOfChaos_1 said:

Rhino actually he is just terrible Please KABAM fix this he needs rework his mechanism gives him nothing

Rhino is more below average than mid tier. He has little utility and hits like a wet noodle

[Deleted User]

I'd love to see a Mr Sinister buff. He's got so much utility already, but none of it matters because his numbers are too low.

iDestroyerZ

I know the op is talking about mid level champions but i'll mention him cause i feel like we don't talk about him enough, superior iron man....omg he has to be the worst champion in the entire game
1) he's literally a copy-paste of og iron man in his abilities
2) how come all his special attacks to the exact same thing? they put an armor break and that's it
3) he's the most lazy character in the game
He needs a major overhaul in his abilites and c'mon, his vfx as well cause he's og iron man with a different color
I was wondering here what he would look like if he was first release this year as a new champion? Cause his suit is completely unique and could have some cool abilities

Clearon

Mr.Sinister buff would be Nice.Would just need a 5-7% increase across the board of his kit.

iDestroyerZ

Now answering the original requirement, i feel like Thor Ragnarok could have another look in his abilities...the fact that he needs to build to sp3 to START doing some cool damage for me it's a crime, yeah he has a huge power gain but that's 40 hits ._. c'mon that could easily be 20 because only then you will start doing damage

[Deleted User]

iDestroyerZ said:

I know the op is talking about mid level champions but i'll mention him cause i feel like we don't talk about him enough, superior iron man....omg he has to be the worst champion in the entire game
1) he's literally a copy-paste of og iron man in his abilities
2) how come all his special attacks to the exact same thing? they put an armor break and that's it
3) he's the most lazy character in the game
He needs a major overhaul in his abilites and c'mon, his vfx as well cause he's og iron man with a different color
I was wondering here what he would look like if he was first release this year as a new champion? Cause his suit is completely unique and could have some cool abilities

His suit is actually amazing in the comics, I'd love to see them express more of the metallic symbiote capabilities of it.

iDestroyerZ

AngelMcNugget said:

iDestroyerZ said:

I know the op is talking about mid level champions but i'll mention him cause i feel like we don't talk about him enough, superior iron man....omg he has to be the worst champion in the entire game
1) he's literally a copy-paste of og iron man in his abilities
2) how come all his special attacks to the exact same thing? they put an armor break and that's it
3) he's the most lazy character in the game
He needs a major overhaul in his abilites and c'mon, his vfx as well cause he's og iron man with a different color
I was wondering here what he would look like if he was first release this year as a new champion? Cause his suit is completely unique and could have some cool abilities

His suit is actually amazing in the comics, I'd love to see them express more of the metallic symbiote capabilities of it.

Kabam can mix juggernaut with colossus but they can't mix symbiote with iron man -.- c'mon kabam give s. iron man some love

EdisonLaw

iDestroyerZ said:

I know the op is talking about mid level champions but i'll mention him cause i feel like we don't talk about him enough, superior iron man....omg he has to be the worst champion in the entire game
1) he's literally a copy-paste of og iron man in his abilities
2) how come all his special attacks to the exact same thing? they put an armor break and that's it
3) he's the most lazy character in the game
He needs a major overhaul in his abilites and c'mon, his vfx as well cause he's og iron man with a different color
I was wondering here what he would look like if he was first release this year as a new champion? Cause his suit is completely unique and could have some cool abilities

Who's worst, him, or Groot?

Ansh_A

Captain America Sam Wilson
Ghost Rider
Psycho Man
Taskmaster
Psylocke
Yellowjacket
Guillotine

All good champs that can use a tune up in damage to be quite good.

Mr.0-8-4

Beast. He has so much potential.

I would hate for Kabam to bring in Werewolf by Night or Wolfsbane before upgrading Beast's kit (otherwise he would become permanently obsolete)

iDestroyerZ

EdisonLaw said:

iDestroyerZ said:

I know the op is talking about mid level champions but i'll mention him cause i feel like we don't talk about him enough, superior iron man....omg he has to be the worst champion in the entire game
1) he's literally a copy-paste of og iron man in his abilities
2) how come all his special attacks to the exact same thing? they put an armor break and that's it
3) he's the most lazy character in the game
He needs a major overhaul in his abilites and c'mon, his vfx as well cause he's og iron man with a different color
I was wondering here what he would look like if he was first release this year as a new champion? Cause his suit is completely unique and could have some cool abilities

Who's worst, him, or Groot?

Him, groot's abilities does something different at least lmao he has bleed, regen and some form of armor penetration between his special attacks, s. iron man does the exact same thing in all 3 specials lmao they didn't even tried with this champion

EdisonLaw

Mr.0-8-4 said:

Beast. He has so much potential.

I would hate for Kabam to bring in Werewolf by Night or Wolfsbane before upgrading Beast's kit (otherwise he would become permanently obsolete)

If they’re not buffing Beast, they could give him a synergy with these two, if they’re coming

Shadowstrike

iDestroyerZ said:

Now answering the original requirement, i feel like Thor Ragnarok could have another look in his abilities...the fact that he needs to build to sp3 to START doing some cool damage for me it's a crime, yeah he has a huge power gain but that's 40 hits ._. c'mon that could easily be 20 because only then you will start doing damage

I'm more surprised about the fact that you're still trying to fix Thor Ragnarok while others would have argued that they need to replace Thor Ragnarok with Thor Infinity War.

Vanitelia

Proxima would be a nice buff to see. Make her missions persistent like Corvus and others. Bring back Doctor Strange to his pre-12.0 days. He was nerfed down to the ground due to his regen, but we have BWCV that can do the same thing now with her SP2. It's shame given the current champs we have. GHulk could use a damage tune-up to go along with utility capabilities. Throw in some of those classic Defenders like Moonknight (missed opportunity with his show dropping last year), DD classic damage tune up, Iron Fist (ton of potential there).

iDestroyerZ

Shadowstrike said:

iDestroyerZ said:

Now answering the original requirement, i feel like Thor Ragnarok could have another look in his abilities...the fact that he needs to build to sp3 to START doing some cool damage for me it's a crime, yeah he has a huge power gain but that's 40 hits ._. c'mon that could easily be 20 because only then you will start doing damage

I'm more surprised about the fact that you're still trying to fix Thor Ragnarok while others would have argued that they need to replace Thor Ragnarok with Thor Infinity War.

Yeah and the reason for that is because at this point they won't release an infinity war version, unfortunately i already accepted that =/ it's been years since the movie and i never saw kabam release a movie version champion way after the release of the movie itself

TheExit27

Groot, Strange, Sentry, Elektra, Beast & Dormamu

Shadowstrike

iDestroyerZ said:

Shadowstrike said:

iDestroyerZ said:

Now answering the original requirement, i feel like Thor Ragnarok could have another look in his abilities...the fact that he needs to build to sp3 to START doing some cool damage for me it's a crime, yeah he has a huge power gain but that's 40 hits ._. c'mon that could easily be 20 because only then you will start doing damage

I'm more surprised about the fact that you're still trying to fix Thor Ragnarok while others would have argued that they need to replace Thor Ragnarok with Thor Infinity War.

Yeah and the reason for that is because at this point they won't release an infinity war version, unfortunately i already accepted that =/ it's been years since the movie and i never saw kabam release a movie version champion way after the release of the movie itself

Because the movies were almost back to back to each other and it would make no sense to release two Thors in a 5-month period.

TheDaywalker

I think Deadpool X-Force would have been complete if his Bleeds, Parry stuns and Taunts were passive instead of debuffs. A second buff is all it takes, like man, Gamora literally got buffed 3 times and the 3rd one actually hit home.
Then there's Psylocke... there is so much potential of her being buffed into a really solid champ, her kit is already a super good foundation that a future buff can just build off of and make her stronger and stand out as an Enervate champ.
Mid champs aside, I just wish Kabam's entire buff schedule wasn't clogged up by the newer champs going through the Rebalance program that are either too weak, too strong or too bugged. At this point it might be a long, long while until Kabam buffs a champ that has not been released anywhere after December 2022.

Manyarrows1

Has Kabam put out a buff schedule for 2023? Or is it more a tell us at the last minute thing this year?

Shadowstrike

Manyarrows1 said:

Has Kabam put out a buff schedule for 2023? Or is it more a tell us at the last minute thing this year?

They don't announce buffs that far in advance. Right now they only announce updates/buffs if the newer champs don't need a rebalance. Unfortunately, every champ since November has had numbers that needed tweaking.

_Bluest_Blu_

Ngl- I have a few champs in mind. Could be just me but i feel like these champs are in need for a severe lift
Black Suit Spiderman
Moon Knight
Iron Patriot
Black Bolt
Karnak
Iron fist
Electro
Captain Marvel (comic) and Ms Marvel
Ronan
Winter Soldier

I feel like they’re just all lacking something. Whether that be damage output or kit wise but they all fall short in one department or another