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Kabam please tell me its a lie cheaters got…

KeonexKeonex Posts: 303 ★★★
Just watched a youtube video by Kt1 where he found that players that got a 7 day temp ban got rewarded when banned was lifted.

this is a slap to the face to everyone that plays the game legally and encourages people to break kabam rules as you get rewarded for it.

I strongly believe a temp ban wasn’t enough punishment, you gave them a week vacation and by the looks of it iit was a paid vacation too

Now they get to return to the contest and compete in BGs, AQ and AW and dominate the contest again by using their inflated rosters that they built through cheating, just cause you removed the 2 champions from the arena you investigates doesn’t clear them from all the 100s of arenas that they have been doing this on
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    DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Posts: 21,235 ★★★★★
    What video?
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    DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Posts: 21,235 ★★★★★

    https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/337916/battle-against-cheaters-update-june-6th-2023/p1

    Kabam doesn't jump straight to perma bans. They have a process usually. 7 day bans are the first step for first time offenders. But their rewards are usually taken from them.
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    DL864DL864 Posts: 1,089 ★★★
    Wozzle007 said:

    I took a 3 month break from the game and got nothing. Please note I didn’t expect anything either.

    If this is an oversite, whatever scripting there is to give out “welcome back” rewards should exclude anyone who has ever been banned for cheating, or at the very least anyone who has been banned in the last year.

    If it was given intentionally to soften the blow for cheaters who have also spent on the game, then honestly I don’t know what any of us are even doing playing the game anymore.

    I've taken 2 breaks from this game first one was 2 months and I was ftp at the time nothing. Next one was about 3 weeks and I had been a spender by that point in time and got a welcome back package plus I think a deal offer it was a long time ago so hard to remember exactly.
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    BitterSteelBitterSteel Posts: 9,260 ★★★★★

    There was already a fake forum post going around related to these bans. I think this screenshot is worth taking with a grain of salt, especially when we’re relying on the word of people who were banned for playing dishonestly. If it was actually given, I think there’s zero chance it was sent intentionally to people coming back from a ban. But if it was unintentionally sent, I sure hope it’s undone.

    I don't think I've ever disagreed with you before but first time for everything. If Kabam had done anything to deserve the benefit of the doubt on anything in regards to cheating I would agree with you, but as most of us know, Kabam deserves the opposite of the benefit of the doubt based on historical precedent.
    Your dislike of Kabam doesn't stop proof being a black and white thing. Proof is not a screenshot of one ingame mail, no account name included, not even of one member that KT alleges.

    If it's true, then Kabam can answer whether it was a mistake and what they'll do about it to fix it. Until then, I forgot it was guilty until proven innocent...
    This isn't a "oh he hates Kabam" sort of situation though. It's not like this distrust is caused by hate cause oh well he just hates Kabam, no this distrust is caused by the mountain of balancing, bugs, cheater issues etc that have plagued the game for the past 4-6 months. So you can't really blame people for taking this whole situation at face value, especially considering a lot of the people who were banned are top spenders.
    If this turns out to be a lie then good for Kabam, we'll all stand corrected but until they say something (which I doubt they will) people are free to think whatever they want to think.
    He was responding to a comment that said "Take this with a grain of salt, we're trusting the words of cheaters", and basically saying Kabam don't deserve a grain of salt, and lets trust the cheaters. That is not a logical response, it's an emotional one to fit in with not liking Kabam or their decisions.

    I agree people can think whatever they want, but if they decide they *know* what happened based on a screenshot and the word of the modders and cheaters who got banned - they probably aren't thinking about it too smartly. Like I said, I don't know for sure what happened, but neither do you, or Chatter. So that's literally all Cat and I are saying. If you disagree with that, then you either don't take proof seriously enough and believe anything on the internet as long as it suits your opinion, or you trust modders way more than is reasonable.
    Giving an incompetent company (who couldn't or didn't want to get rid of arena bots for years cause they didn't care and also allowed these same modders to remain in top 500 GC during a full season of BGs) the benefit of the doubt isn't really thinking about it too smartly either imo, especially when the people banned were top spenders. Now, do I believe this whole situation is 100% real and I'm grabbing torches and pitchforks? Nah. Am I leaning more towards it being real than fake? Absolutely. I don't trust Kabam as much as I used to, I'm sure we all have our reasons.
    When did I say give them the benefit of the doubt? I said take a modders and cheaters word with a grain of salt. Nobody’s asking you to give kabam the benefit of the doubt. They’re saying don’t assume something is true until it’s proved, that works for anyone no matter how much you like or dislike them.
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    ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Posts: 3,620 ★★★★★

    There was already a fake forum post going around related to these bans. I think this screenshot is worth taking with a grain of salt, especially when we’re relying on the word of people who were banned for playing dishonestly. If it was actually given, I think there’s zero chance it was sent intentionally to people coming back from a ban. But if it was unintentionally sent, I sure hope it’s undone.

    I don't think I've ever disagreed with you before but first time for everything. If Kabam had done anything to deserve the benefit of the doubt on anything in regards to cheating I would agree with you, but as most of us know, Kabam deserves the opposite of the benefit of the doubt based on historical precedent.
    Your dislike of Kabam doesn't stop proof being a black and white thing. Proof is not a screenshot of one ingame mail, no account name included, not even of one member that KT alleges.

    If it's true, then Kabam can answer whether it was a mistake and what they'll do about it to fix it. Until then, I forgot it was guilty until proven innocent...
    This isn't a "oh he hates Kabam" sort of situation though. It's not like this distrust is caused by hate cause oh well he just hates Kabam, no this distrust is caused by the mountain of balancing, bugs, cheater issues etc that have plagued the game for the past 4-6 months. So you can't really blame people for taking this whole situation at face value, especially considering a lot of the people who were banned are top spenders.
    If this turns out to be a lie then good for Kabam, we'll all stand corrected but until they say something (which I doubt they will) people are free to think whatever they want to think.
    He was responding to a comment that said "Take this with a grain of salt, we're trusting the words of cheaters", and basically saying Kabam don't deserve a grain of salt, and lets trust the cheaters. That is not a logical response, it's an emotional one to fit in with not liking Kabam or their decisions.

    I agree people can think whatever they want, but if they decide they *know* what happened based on a screenshot and the word of the modders and cheaters who got banned - they probably aren't thinking about it too smartly. Like I said, I don't know for sure what happened, but neither do you, or Chatter. So that's literally all Cat and I are saying. If you disagree with that, then you either don't take proof seriously enough and believe anything on the internet as long as it suits your opinion, or you trust modders way more than is reasonable.
    Giving an incompetent company (who couldn't or didn't want to get rid of arena bots for years cause they didn't care and also allowed these same modders to remain in top 500 GC during a full season of BGs) the benefit of the doubt isn't really thinking about it too smartly either imo, especially when the people banned were top spenders. Now, do I believe this whole situation is 100% real and I'm grabbing torches and pitchforks? Nah. Am I leaning more towards it being real than fake? Absolutely. I don't trust Kabam as much as I used to, I'm sure we all have our reasons.
    A lot of this is pretty heavy speculation bud
    Hence the "I'm leaning more towards it being real than fake" bud :)
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