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Edit: I knew torch was good from the start because of Lagacy (and he got buffed anyways lol) and corvus never had anything like that to my knowledge wasnt it apocalypse?
So I was fortunate enough to pick up this guy today, and I was able to get him straight up to r4 for testing.
My initial reviews are that he is slow. It’s unfortunate. But he is very slow and probably needs a bit of a damage tune.
But then again, he is a fabulous Utility machine. He is great in high-buff matchups especially with MD since he makes them expire 90% quicker. Plus, it lets him cycle sp2s and sp1s when his degens are up to prologue the death-aura thingy. He also is quite tanky with his regen and that nifty Root from the sig which doesnt (currently) go away when hit with an sp3.
Obviously, he is an incredibly good defender too.
This is just my two-hour CCP-less little experience so far in some 1v1s from BGs and some various quest fights.
If you wanna see anything, @ me or message me on Line since i almost never check the forums anymore.
But in the comics the purple outfit for Kindred is worn by Sarah Stacy, Gabriel has a brown outfit. It would make sense for this version to be Sarah.
Also, not sure if Auntm.ai is the most reliable source, but Kindred is labeled as female there.
Also, it's kinda ambiguous in comics for a reason. At one point, we think Kindred is Harry. Even Gwen herself (or some kind of clone), I think.
Also also, this could very well be MCOC's own slightly different rendition of Kindred.
With how Kindred's bio reads, Kabam are seeming to want to leave their identity ambiguous themselves.
I'm suspecting they will update the bio later anyways, because Sarah's name is actually wrong. They called her Stacy Osborne for some reason. They also spelt "Osborn" wrong.
P.S. pretty sure champions can only have the Male or Female tag. Maybe I will bring this up to Kabam or something. Tagging them as both would be cool.
This reminds me of Korg & pre-buff Ebony Maw.....too much in defense, disappointing in offense
Time to bring in some times. This is a 6R3 Kindred versus a Drax on a CCP map we have. The health is similar to RoL.
What's the difference between both times? The sig. The second one was done with pretty much full health, and since Drax rarely gains buffs on Defense, it took so damn long.
The first fight, I used the sig. Got down to the root and healed back to about half health after. The lower the health, the stronger the Degen, and combined to Drax hitting me and gaining more furies than the second fight, the first 50% of Drax were great. After that, no more good Furies to expire and Kindred had more health. Some food for thought
These champions are worth having and ranking for BGs and AW any day.
And not to mention, having tested Kindred, they’re actually pretty nice for buff matchups. That’s their offensive strength but they are mainly a defender.
The game needs defenders to make the meta interesting, I see people grumble that Kabam make defenders to grab cash, but that’s really not true. Defenders can be used by you on AW defence and BG defence to win - that’s a player positive.
No, it may not be as interesting at first as an attacking god who comes out and everyone loves. But if every champ is an attacker or a two way attacker/defender, the game is more likely to get stale. And when you pull Kindred and rank them up and see the bodies laying around once you place them on defence, you’ll be glad you did.
Kindred has their offensive place, but will mainly be a defender. That doesn’t mean they need a buff. A champion has a very specific target when they’re added to the game, Kindred may hit theirs in buff matchups and on defence, but they might not need to perform well elsewhere to hit their overall target.
Champions don’t need to, and won’t, be good everywhere.
I also know that the average player would always want attackers or dual threat champs, and wouldn’t vote for defender only champs given the choice. But it’s important for game balance, and overall fun, to have defender only champs
jokes aside i hope i never get good enough to face you in bg’s
I’m not arguing for champions who are fully useless on offence, and only defenders. Kindred is not that, and I am not arguing for that.
No champion is fully useless on offence. There’s just varying levels, and not every champion has to be a true dual use. In fact, it’s important for the game that there are defensive champions that aren’t true dual use champs.
Do you think Korg or Mephisto are failed champions? I don’t think failed is the right word, I think they have their place. But they are probably just about on the border of how useful they are on attack - and could benefit from a tune up. Are they good on AW attack/BGs attack? Not really. (Though I did assign a mephisto in tier 1 war a few seasons ago). But they have their place in the game, and in places can even have synergies used to make them viable on attack in questing.
Kindred isn’t even as “bad” as some of those. They put out really nice damage, again, in buff match ups.
I think over time Kabam has also tried to make defensive champs have some good uses on attack as well, to the point where we have champions that aren’t true dual use champs, but definitely are defensive leaning. Someone like Toad, more of a defender but has his place on offence without being a true dual use. Or Attuma recently, who is definitely more of a defender but can do things on offence without being a true two way.
My point is basically just that Kindred is a defensive champion. Not a true dual use, but that is ok. They have uses on offence.
Kindred has been designed basically as the next meta defender. I’m sure more champs who counter them will come out in the future, they are meant as a defender. But they can still be used on attack. That’s different to a dual use, like Adam which is meant to be a strong attacker and defender. There’s a subtle, but distinct difference.
"If we only get fun champs game would get stale cuz we would get one "kind" of champion everytime". There is types of "kind" basically. And for some reason you try to reduce the dual threats releasing into that kind of reasoning.