Kabam sold me on Battlegrounds last season. This season undid that completely.

You enjoyed BGs on one of the easiest seasons.
This season was more grindy; but at the same time it was a bit more competitive, and its the preparation for seeding (to make it less grindy)

Well then I suck?

Skill issue. Got it lol.

Ironman3000

SO you like getting easy rewards and don't like having to work for them? Got it.

You don't? See first post.

Yes, I agree with your view.

Well then I suck?

I never said that; season 8 and 9 were just easy. 9 was a bit of a joke, and people were farming points to actually reach the 400k points. Conquerors and UC were sent up to GC on purpose too. It was a weird season and not one to use as a parameter for anything really.

Some well known Youtubers have been struggling to get to GC. I'm not that skilled and am not pretending to be. However, if literally the best players in the world can barely get there is that good?

Some well known Youtubers have been struggling to get to GC. I'm not that skilled and am not pretending to be. However, if literally the best players in the world can barely get there is that good?

The recent changes are a problem. We're not the only ones who see it. The subject has been discussed at length, and the same few people jump in to tell others they've had it easy and they need to get better. Just ignore it.

Sean_Who

You shouldn't be able to reap the rewards that more skilled players (or bigger spenders, but that's a separate discussion) are getting, that's the nature of a competitive game mode.

Then, on the flip-side, it is a fun more (personally) that shouldn't be so deflating when you are constantly losing.

How do they fix it? I don't think letting you climb further up the ladder, more easily, is the answer.

laserjohn26

Some well known Youtubers have been struggling to get to GC. I'm not that skilled and am not pretending to be. However, if literally the best players in the world can barely get there is that good?

Who? Putting video on YouTube does not necessarily equal skill.

Ironman3000

You're able to reach as high as your skill and roster allows. If you can't get as high as you want, improve your skill and roster.

Perhaps the mode was misrepresented by season 9 then? I had played the mode casually prior but 9 was the first season that I pushed hard.

My question again would be, is it smart for Kabam to have an "easy" season with even better rewards (I realize that was for "AW compensation") only to then have this season?

It was a complete and total turn off after falling in love with the mode and I think its important that Kabam know that. I don't want this to be arena and I do want a challenge. This didn't feel like a challenge. It felt rigged.

I'M NOT SAYING IT WAS!!! That is just how it felt.

Some "people" are funny, I don't know how other people can say they had it easy when they had to go thru the same exact process.
They had the string the same ammount of wins, same ammount of tiers and all.
Some "people" can't see the difference between complaints on the structure change (which is the same for every player) and matchmaking complaints from lesser experienced players.

Some "people" are funny, I don't know how other people can say they had it easy when they had to go thru the same exact process.
They had the string the same ammount of wins, same ammount of tiers and all.
Some "people" can't see the difference between complaints on the structure change (which is the same for every player) and matchmaking complaints from lesser experienced players.

Some "people" are right about everything.

Perhaps the mode was misrepresented by season 9 then? I had played the mode casually prior but 9 was the first season that I pushed hard.

My question again would be, is it smart for Kabam to have an "easy" season with even better rewards (I realize that was for "AW compensation") only to then have this season?

It was a complete and total turn off after falling in love with the mode and I think its important that Kabam know that. I don't want this to be arena and I do want a challenge. This didn't feel like a challenge. It felt rigged.

I'M NOT SAYING IT WAS!!! That is just how it felt.

Wait I am not getting this straight, is your complaint about the rewards or the game mode?
The rewards was a special event because of the lack of war. Which is why the season was completely different. Season 9 had conqueror players in for the first time, also getting into GC was not as important as reaching milestone rewards, there was a lot more participation from all types of players trying to get those milestones.
This season probably had a lot more hard try players due to burn out too.

Pikolu

Perhaps the mode was misrepresented by season 9 then? I had played the mode casually prior but 9 was the first season that I pushed hard.

My question again would be, is it smart for Kabam to have an "easy" season with even better rewards (I realize that was for "AW compensation") only to then have this season?

It was a complete and total turn off after falling in love with the mode and I think its important that Kabam know that. I don't want this to be arena and I do want a challenge. This didn't feel like a challenge. It felt rigged.

I'M NOT SAYING IT WAS!!! That is just how it felt.

Season 9 was essentially the guinea pig test season for the double medals. This season was probably so difficult for 2 reasons.
1. Seeding. With seeding in place kabam had to extend the VT or reduce the effectiveness of it.
2. We had almost 100k or more people in GC last season, which meant people needed almost 200 points just to get out of Uru 3.

Kabam was already extending the VT (I disagree with having 2 medals stop at gold instead of diamond though) for seeding, and they knew statistics-wise that this season would be bad because it was the first to have seeding. I hope they make some changes, but I imagine we won't see any drastic changes until after the next season and they can pull the data to see how everyone does with seeding.

Werriess

Each season of BG I made it to GC, this season I am stuck in vibranium2, I have been playing the whole day to try and get into GC but to no avail. Forver stuck in win one, loose 2, win 2 loose 1 and I am exhausted, so much time given and for nothing. These changes is overkill and I dont think seeding is going to help. We all have to face each other and I for one cannot go through another season of the added vibranium tiers. If this is the new battle grounds then I will take my package of rewards where I am seeded and thats it. Really starting to hate this game mode. Below is my profile.

Below is the guys I face

The bottom line is, it's been overtuned. A number of Players are losing interest, and that can't be ignored.
The objective was to keep lower Accounts (Cavs, UC) from having an easier time making it to the GC than Players more advanced. Now we have arguments that even Paragons have had it too easy and don't deserve the Rewards. The exclusivity and elitism never ends.
There are most definitely changes that need to be made, no matter how much people argue that this is a good thing. It's a competition. We all know that. That doesn't mean it should burn out the majority of Players before they even hit the GC.
This current iteration is too much. It's not completely broken, but there is still work to do to dial it back. You want to balance the lowest Players having an easier time, but you don't want to kill the efforts of everyone else that isn't at the very top.
Unfortunately, once that happens, it's hard to pull them back. So that's a priority in my opinion.

KTPrimal

Some "people" are funny, I don't know how other people can say they had it easy when they had to go thru the same exact process.
They had the string the same ammount of wins, same ammount of tiers and all.
Some "people" can't see the difference between complaints on the structure change (which is the same for every player) and matchmaking complaints from lesser experienced players.

No player goes through the exact same process nor string the same amount of wins.

Colinwhitworth69

I am not ambitious with BG, but I am in Diamond and it has been fine. I just play casually.

Ironman3000

Shouldn't all those bigger accounts that you can't beat be higher than you?

Some "people" are funny, I don't know how other people can say they had it easy when they had to go thru the same exact process.
They had the string the same ammount of wins, same ammount of tiers and all.
Some "people" can't see the difference between complaints on the structure change (which is the same for every player) and matchmaking complaints from lesser experienced players.

No player goes through the exact same process nor string the same amount of wins.

Talking about the game mode structure, not the game play.
Everyone has to go thru the same ammount of tiers, winning and losing rewards or takes away the same ammount of coins.

Fryday

Each season of BG I made it to GC, this season I am stuck in vibranium2, I have been playing the whole day to try and get into GC but to no avail. Forver stuck in win one, loose 2, win 2 loose 1 and I am exhausted, so much time given and for nothing. These changes is overkill and I dont think seeding is going to help. We all have to face each other and I for one cannot go through another season of the added vibranium tiers. If this is the new battle grounds then I will take my package of rewards where I am seeded and thats it. Really starting to hate this game mode. Below is my profile.

Below is the guys I face

I feel your pain, I got to be honest with you. My account is quite a bit smaller than your and still face 4.5mil+ and 19k+ prestige.

I feel the main problem is the Win 1 token, Lost 1 token, and I can't see Seeding will fix this, as this problem create a bottleneck problem for a lot of players, anything from 2mil all the way up to 5mil and above. Everyone is stuck in this cycle with some wins and some losts and stuck in the same Tier.

Every players that are in the same Vibranium tier will also be in start in the same Tier together, and all will continue to get bottlenecks next season.

If players (whatever level) can move throw their own level well then we naturally would have less matching issue. I have a small account and below average skills, so not expect to get high as other bigger or/and more skilled. But right now, I actually feel bad when facing much larger accounts than me (who played well), as I feel like they could/should be at a higher Tier, but they are not, because players is stuck in a 1 win, 1 lost loop.

KTPrimal

Some "people" are funny, I don't know how other people can say they had it easy when they had to go thru the same exact process.
They had the string the same ammount of wins, same ammount of tiers and all.
Some "people" can't see the difference between complaints on the structure change (which is the same for every player) and matchmaking complaints from lesser experienced players.

No player goes through the exact same process nor string the same amount of wins.
Talking about the game mode structure, not the game play.
Everyone has to go thru the same ammount of tiers, winning and losing rewards or takes away the same ammount of coins.

I'm talking about the same. It's not structured that way. Some sweep the tiers, some 50% them, and some even less. Currently BGs functions like arena where you can do infinite fights as long as you have the marks. Having a system where a set number of matches per season can be played could be a good change. Like every player can only do 100 matches every season for example. That would make it competitive and a competition. The points you get per win goes towards your overall rank. So let's say 2 players go undefeated, the one who scored the most points per round will rank higher.

Going through the same gauntlet doesn't make the expectation on everyone reasonable.

Some "people" are funny, I don't know how other people can say they had it easy when they had to go thru the same exact process.
They had the string the same ammount of wins, same ammount of tiers and all.
Some "people" can't see the difference between complaints on the structure change (which is the same for every player) and matchmaking complaints from lesser experienced players.

No player goes through the exact same process nor string the same amount of wins.
Talking about the game mode structure, not the game play.
Everyone has to go thru the same ammount of tiers, winning and losing rewards or takes away the same ammount of coins.
I'm talking about the same. It's not structured that way. Some sweep the tiers, some 50% them, and some even less. Currently BGs functions like arena where you can do infinite fights as long as you have the marks. Having a system where a set number of matches per season can be played could be a good change. Like every player can only do 100 matches every season for example. That would make it competitive and a competition. The points you get per win goes towards your overall rank. So let's say 2 players go undefeated, the one who scored the most points per round will rank higher.

That's not my argument though, I am argueing that some people blame it on a level of difficulty increase, when everyone has to play thru the same difficulty.
You are argueing the capability of brute forcing and is valid; but adding tiers and changing the coin system didn't make it harder for some and easier for others. Matter of fact when they changed the coin system in season 8 it was made easier for EVERYONE, and now the difficulty was slightly increased for everyone as well.

Madman_marvin

Not a fan of vibranium having three tiers. Sure seems like it’s just there to make you want to buy victory shields. 15 wins is a lot. Kabam has been saying they want to make things less grindy and then do this.