Is this intended for power snack Zemo?

airmundo

In AW power snack Zemo is starting off with 15 furies against a nullify immune Viv Vision. I know he gains a fury whenever a champ is immune to an effect but should it just count as 1 immunity and not 15+? I thought I had heard this would be adjusted but maybe I’m remembering that incorrectly.

Pikolu

It might be because all 15 buffs trigger at the same time and all 15 would be removed at once if she wasn't nullify immune. That still royally sucks to deal with

airmundo

I think it’s just a bad interaction and shouldn’t work that way…but who knows what kabam intended here. 147k damage on a missed input and blocked hit.

Magrailothos

Bad luck mate, but I think this is just one to chalk up to experience.

Like using an Awakened Terrax to try and take down an Awakened Warlock. 🤷‍♂️

airmundo

I mean, you can make digs at my experience or skill all you want but thats not what I’m asking. I just really want to know if kabam intended this interaction. If they did and it’s going to stay this way, I’m never using viv here again. Mistakes happen and a missed input where I accidentally block instead of phase will happen all the time, but dying to that one block? If that’s how it will always be then she’s no longer the best option here IMO

Pikolu

Odds are that is the intended interaction because of my explanation in my first comment

airmundo

I understand that but I feel like there should be a timer of sorts here. Like he can only proc one (or even 5) every 0.000001 second. Honestly wouldn’t matter the exact timing but should just be x furies per 0.x seconds so that it’s not just a cheese.

With 5 furies he would still hurt a TON but at least it wouldn’t be a one hit KO.

Pikolu

airmundo said:

I understand that but I feel like there should be a timer of sorts here. Like he can only proc one (or even 5) every 0.000001 second. Honestly wouldn’t matter the exact timing but should just be x furies per 0.x seconds so that it’s not just a cheese.

With 5 furies he would still hurt a TON but at least it wouldn’t be a one hit KO.

That would be a heavy nerf to Zemo because you wouldn't ever be able to hit the 15 fury cap as an attacker.

airmundo

Pikolu said:

airmundo said:

I understand that but I feel like there should be a timer of sorts here. Like he can only proc one (or even 5) every 0.000001 second. Honestly wouldn’t matter the exact timing but should just be x furies per 0.x seconds so that it’s not just a cheese.

With 5 furies he would still hurt a TON but at least it wouldn’t be a one hit KO.

That would be a heavy nerf to Zemo because you wouldn't ever be able to hit the 15 fury cap as an attacker.

Tell me more? If it changed from a cap of 5 furies all at once versus being able to get 15 all at once how is that a heavy nerf? What interactions as an attacker would that materially change him?

Check on if it was capped at one every few seconds, maybe a bigger impact, but I’m focusing on capping at 5 at once.

Magrailothos

Magrailothos said:

Bad luck mate, but I think this is just one to chalk up to experience.

Like using an Awakened Terrax to try and take down an Awakened Warlock. 🤷‍♂️

airmundo said:

I mean, you can make digs at my experience or skill all you want but thats not what I’m asking...

Mate, that honestly wasn't a dig.

Where I'm from, 'chalk it up to experience' is a very common expression. It just means 'Something happened. Remember not to let it happen again, and move on.'

No criticism or mockery intended 🙂👍. And the Terrax Vs Warlock thing is something I've done at least twice (guess I'm a slow learner! 😉)

And yes, I think it's intended.

If a Mystic champion had Fate Sealed 17 buffs, wouldn't you expect them to gain 17 stacks of Power from Mystic Dispersion?

Rockyshocky

airmundo said:

I think it’s just a bad interaction and shouldn’t work that way…but who knows what kabam intended here. 147k damage on a missed input and blocked hit.

its certainly intentional. when kingpin shrugs off 8 debuffs, zemo naturally gains 8 furies. when buffet fails to trigger 16 times, zemo naturally gains 15 furies.

Also, i feel your pain. i run r5 viv in war and thats a fight im often too scared to take. one thing you could do if youre intent on using viv is to run an invuln boost, and deliberately eat a hit (i like to go for the last hit of his sp1) to consume those furies and not take any damage.

Pikolu

airmundo said:

Pikolu said:

airmundo said:

I understand that but I feel like there should be a timer of sorts here. Like he can only proc one (or even 5) every 0.000001 second. Honestly wouldn’t matter the exact timing but should just be x furies per 0.x seconds so that it’s not just a cheese.

With 5 furies he would still hurt a TON but at least it wouldn’t be a one hit KO.

That would be a heavy nerf to Zemo because you wouldn't ever be able to hit the 15 fury cap as an attacker.

Tell me more? If it changed from a cap of 5 furies all at once versus being able to get 15 all at once how is that a heavy nerf? What interactions as an attacker would that materially change him?

Check on if it was capped at one every few seconds, maybe a bigger impact, but I’m focusing on capping at 5 at once.

All his furies disappear in 1 hit. So you would never be able to hit 15 furies as an attacker, so you would effectively have nerfed his cap to 5