Battlegrounds point farming in Gladiator Circuit?
IvarTheBoneless
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So since the original post is talking about ranks I interpreted it as victory track, but it could also mean gladiator circuit. In my opinion it should be fair to try and get as high as you can in gladiator circuit with marks, then when you start losing because of the big accounts switch to energy until you're at a point where you can win again. Then switch back to marks obviously.
I feel like this could be classified as point farming too, but it just feels wrong since it's in gladiator circuit. I am in diamond 1 now and only using marks but I'd like to know the situation on this before hitting glad circuit. If any mod could weigh in on this that'd be great.
I feel like this could be classified as point farming too, but it just feels wrong since it's in gladiator circuit. I am in diamond 1 now and only using marks but I'd like to know the situation on this before hitting glad circuit. If any mod could weigh in on this that'd be great.
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EDIT: this is from a comment on Richtheman's video from 2hours ago that touched this topic. "isnt switching currency to enter bg's if you know you will likely lose just playing smart with you elder marks? how is it cheating? isnt it the point to use them cleverly?"
And that's exactly how I feel in the context of the Gladiator Circuit.
Well people who used 3 or 4 alts were fine, then you had others who thought they were smart with 40+ alts getting their stuff taken away...
Its really on the player to decide if they are benefitting or exploiting something.
The problem is I am at that point without completing all solo milestones. I have to play more if I want the top rewards (5k titan shards) but I have to waste elder marks because otherwise I'm at the risk of getting banned. That's just illigical to me, and the opposite of strategic play.
Just play your matches with energy and elder marks as you please, you will be fine.
Idk how they will detect I just wanted to be sure. Thanks for the input I hope you're right.
Yet they chose to go the ban threats way, probably because it would be too much work for them to implement another solution to farming.
Lazy and poor approach 😠
Big difference in win ratio between EMs and Energy matches will raise a flag.
These accounts will get investigated more detailed, and for the most broad differences that have a big enough number of matches played, the green light for ban will be given.
It’s uncertain what % difference will be considered as a bannable offence, since there is not something specific announced.
Personally I would expect any difference around 80% or over to be green lighted for ban.
Let’s be honest, you can’t win only 10% of your matches using energy and at the same time win 90% of those you used EMs, after playing over a hundred of matches, without doing that intentionally to farm points.
If i play 50 matches using EM and won like 35 of them, that's 70% of win rate
If i play 10 matches using energy and win 5 of them, that's 50% win rate
You can say ''oh but you lost more matches using energy'' but that can be for X reasons, i posted the other day a bug that happened to me where the game crashed and i simply lost because of an error message....
Kabam do need to adress what it's consider farming cause otherwise people who are actually struggling to get to GC (like me) can be wrongfully banned
Or maybe if kabam give a little boost to the points in general and then the whole farming might stop idk
Personally, I see no reason to pretend to lose because I do that enough organically. I just play until I am getting my hat handed to me over and over, and then I wait until the next month. I can't fuss over some virtual doodads on which I might miss out. Just a video game.
Of course the optimal strategy is lose with Energy and win with Elder Marks, but when Elder Marks themselves are meaningless for the most part, then that optimization doesn't exactly matter.
For me, Season to Season, Elder Marks are meaningless aside from this season and the Cap's Commissary event. Typically, the Solo milestones are meaningless to me (essentially just 6-star shards that you already can get cheaply from the store), and my Alliance doesn't require any specific amount of points for the Alliance Milestones.
Of course, no one can actually *tell* when you're counting cards. That would take telepathy. What they can observe is whether your betting strategy is consistent with trying to leverage counting cards. They can then infer you're counting cards and act accordingly, without "proof." I'm assuming Kabam is doing something similar. There's no way to tell if someone is deliberately losing or not. But you can tell if the player is spending energy and marks in a way consistent with deliberately losing to farm points. A player that is "playing smartly" as some describe, will still sometimes win with energy and lose with marks, because they are only trying to guess at the outcome. But a player who is deliberately point farming will almost always lose with energy and almost always win with marks, because they have their thumbs on the scale. They aren't guessing whether they will lose or not, they *know*.
In effect, point farming is not just about deliberately losing. It is about taking advantage of the fact you know with perfect accuracy when you're going to lose. Which currency you spend is a kind of prediction. If you're always right, Kabam can presume you aren't able to see the future, you are always right about when you will lose because you are deliberately losing. Whether Kabam is as good as this as the average Vegas pit boss, I cannot say. But that's the only logical way this can be done.
To put it another way, suppose I was trained to detect card counting. I go to Vegas and start watching the tables. I am a completely independent observer. I have no self-interest in what happens on those tables. I simply have the same training as the Vegas pit bosses. Are you saying that because I don't have the same interests as the pit bosses, I will be less capable of detecting card counters as the pit bosses are? I literally have the same training and the same observation skills, and I literally have the same view of the game (pit bosses are not able to see anything that the players of black jack cannot see by rule: it would potentially open the door to *them* being co-opted into cheating). So what would make me less capable in this situation?
In my post i'm talking for bigger samples of matches (100+), but most importantly for bigger win ratio differences between the two BGs currencies (80% or more).
Yes if you have played 150 matches and you have won 90% of those you used EMs, while you have won only 10% or less of those you used energy, then you are obviously point farming 😉
I can't believe people are arguing that's not point farming, and even more I can't believe they don't expect Kabam to use currency win ratio % difference as a tool to flag and investigate accounts that are still point farming.
I'm against bans for just playing the game effectively, since if Kabam didn't liked it they could change the game parameters itself by adjusting points for currencies and by adding escalating point multipliers on each VT and GC tier, but I'm also not naive to believe they won't use their data to spot the "offenders" 🤷